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KA goes on the road and outduels KM, 38-20

Final stats:

KA
19/26
261 yds
10 ypc
4TD
0 INT
2 sacks
144.4 QBR

KM
30/42
173 yds
4 ypc
2 TD
2 INT
8 sacks
73.1 QBR

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Threadbare said:

FriscoKid said:

Anyone watching this?
There's some paint drying on my back porch.

I'm torn...

Well you missed out. That was impressive. Carolina fans are about done with Newton also.
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KS was an excellent recruiter, not good at developing the talent. D. Mack is an example, came in as 5 star played 3 years like a 2 star and finally after Jimbo, played to his potential. Same with Kyle and Skyler. Dude could not develop or manage talent.
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BiggestD85 said:

KS was an excellent recruiter, not good at developing the talent. D. Mack is an example, came in as 5 star played 3 years like a 2 star and finally after Jimbo, played to his potential. Same with Kyle and Skyler. Dude could not develop or manage talent.





Do you even watch Aggie football? If you did then you'd know that Mack had some good players in front of him! Zay Henderson and Keke both where in front of him on the depth chart, and went on to the NFL! He might quite possibly may have not even played his senior year, if Keke hadn't lost weight and moved to Defensive end as a senior. Allowing Justin M. And Mack to get on the feild at the same time! He had better guys in front of him that's why he didn't get on the field earlier plain and simple!
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T-Shizzle said:

BiggestD85 said:

KS was an excellent recruiter, not good at developing the talent. D. Mack is an example, came in as 5 star played 3 years like a 2 star and finally after Jimbo, played to his potential. Same with Kyle and Skyler. Dude could not develop or manage talent.





Do you even watch Aggie football? If you did then you'd know that Mack had some good players in front of him! Zay Henderson and Keke both where in front of him on the depth chart, and went on to the NFL! He might quite possibly may have not even played his senior year, if Keke hadn't lost weight and moved to Defensive end as a senior. Allowing Justin M. And Mack to get on the feild at the same time! He had better guys in front of him that's why he didn't get on the field earlier plain and simple!
No, but good attempt at defending Sumlin
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rangerdanger said:

Wonder if KA is going to hang KM by his undies in the locker room for old time sake...

Please elaborate
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KA did not give up in spite of the obstacles - Unlike lots of so-called Aggies !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Next time read before you reply. Not defending Sumlin.
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Next time read before you reply. Not defending Sumlin
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T-Shizzle said:

Jarrin' Jay said:

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Leander - Ag said:

TheWoodsAg said:

In all fairness, Sumlin completely fubar'd the QB room at A&M and as a result we gave him a $15 million check for it.
What a complete disaster KS was. Looking back it is was Fran level incompetence.

Our highest national ranking 5th in the final AP poll in the past 25+ years. If Sumlin is guilty of all of our woes, then he gets some credit for what Sherill, RC, Fran, Sherm, and Jimbo couldn't or can't do. Not since 1956 have we been ranked 5th or higher in the AP to finish a season.

He will always be listed as the HC of the 2012 team. But really his only accomplishment was inheriting a team of Top 10 talent accumulated and coached up by his predecessor, and having Kliff to coach the greatest assembly of offensive talent we had ever had. Every single starter on the 2012 offense, which Sumlin had nothing to do with their recruiting and development, played in the NFL including the entire OL. That is unheard of.

The truest measure of the real value of Sumlin as a HC and his competence level is revealed by looking at his last 4 seasons at A&M. The fact is the further we got away from Sherman recruited and developed players, the worse we got. That is not an opinion, that is a fact, and it is why we had the worst most embarrassing comeback loss in the history of Power 5 football followed the next week by being tied with an FCS school in the 4Q in Sumlin's last season....


Sumlin should have been fired before he was, but for certain we should not have paid his buyout due to "letter-gate".....



Bwahahaha well what about all the defensive players Sumlin recruited here? That went on to the NFL
Davante Harris, Dashawn Hall, Myles Garrett, Zay Henderson, Armani Watts, Justin Evans, Donovan Wilson, Otaro Alaka, Tyrell Dodson, Brandon Williams, Kingsley Keke,!

What about the talent that's on the team now that Sumlin recruited! All this Sumlin hate is a joke! He didn't get it done here! Fine! It happens ,but the hate is unreal and I know why, and it's sad!
Why is everyone so ga ga goofy about players fromA&M being in the pros??!! They don't put any points on the board now!!!!!
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ebag02 said:

Pick up that Arizona defense and feast off those pick 6s if Kyle Allen starts.
Good call, Ace!
2+2=5
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aeon-ag said:

T-Shizzle said:

Jarrin' Jay said:

Raptor said:

Leander - Ag said:

TheWoodsAg said:

In all fairness, Sumlin completely fubar'd the QB room at A&M and as a result we gave him a $15 million check for it.
What a complete disaster KS was. Looking back it is was Fran level incompetence.

Our highest national ranking 5th in the final AP poll in the past 25+ years. If Sumlin is guilty of all of our woes, then he gets some credit for what Sherill, RC, Fran, Sherm, and Jimbo couldn't or can't do. Not since 1956 have we been ranked 5th or higher in the AP to finish a season.

He will always be listed as the HC of the 2012 team. But really his only accomplishment was inheriting a team of Top 10 talent accumulated and coached up by his predecessor, and having Kliff to coach the greatest assembly of offensive talent we had ever had. Every single starter on the 2012 offense, which Sumlin had nothing to do with their recruiting and development, played in the NFL including the entire OL. That is unheard of.

The truest measure of the real value of Sumlin as a HC and his competence level is revealed by looking at his last 4 seasons at A&M. The fact is the further we got away from Sherman recruited and developed players, the worse we got. That is not an opinion, that is a fact, and it is why we had the worst most embarrassing comeback loss in the history of Power 5 football followed the next week by being tied with an FCS school in the 4Q in Sumlin's last season....


Sumlin should have been fired before he was, but for certain we should not have paid his buyout due to "letter-gate".....



Bwahahaha well what about all the defensive players Sumlin recruited here? That went on to the NFL
Davante Harris, Dashawn Hall, Myles Garrett, Zay Henderson, Armani Watts, Justin Evans, Donovan Wilson, Otaro Alaka, Tyrell Dodson, Brandon Williams, Kingsley Keke,!

What about the talent that's on the team now that Sumlin recruited! All this Sumlin hate is a joke! He didn't get it done here! Fine! It happens ,but the hate is unreal and I know why, and it's sad!
Why is everyone so ga ga goofy about players fromA&M being in the pros??!! They don't put any points on the board now!!!!!





What are you talking about? No one said they did. The guy said after The players Sherman recruited left, Sumlin never did anything. (as far as developing players) I gave you a list of players he recruited. That where good players that went on to the NFL! Try to comprehend! Pretty sure that's the ultimate sign of development. Going to the highest level.
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NFXAg09 said:

QBU
Transfer QBU
Artorias
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KA now 4-0 as a starter
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And he only sack fumbled once. Super improvement!
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Sponge said:

And he only sack fumbled once. Super improvement!

Sounds painful.
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1st undrafted QB to go 4-0 since Kurt Warner.

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Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.
Aggie Class of '97 and '16, Proud father of Aggie classes of '25 and '29
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Wow the bitterness is phenomenal. If Manziel had started these last 4 games for Carolina this thread would be about super bowl trajectory and early enshrinement in Canton.
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.


Through the games he has started he's got 5TDs and 0 ints, just because the team is a run heavy system that doesn't mean he is hurting them. The kid is asked to take care of the ball and keep the defense honest, and he's basically done that so far.
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.
He pretty much sealed the deal against the Texans by dodging a sack by Watt and delivering an absolute dime for a first down. Now, he also fumbled twice but he also did enough to win the game.....no need to be bitter.

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Kyle Allen is proving that he can play in this league, so is Kyler. Get over it people.
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.

"Kyle Allen sucks so bad the Panthers can't help but win."
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.


You obviously haven't watched the games. In 3 of the 4 wins KA outplayed the opposing QB by a large margin, including Kyler. Deshaun Watson, and Lamar Jackson
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Why would you post that when you obviously have no idea what you're talking about?
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.

Did you know Cam Newton is 0-8 in his last 8 starts with that same team while Kyle Allen is 4-0 with the same team.

I'm not saying he is going to be anything in the NFL but if the QB doesn't matter then why is Cam 0-8?
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You could see the talent from the beginning. He's going to play in that league a long time I think.
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KA destroying the rapist in London.
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Wonder when he'll start wearing capris and vaudeville hats for his press conferences?
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Is Cam still going to be the starter when he heals up?

I'm thinking they'll put Cam back in but they will be quick to move on from him if he's not winning.
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.
How the hell do you figure he's a boat anchor when he has a 100+ qb passer and no picks? Granted, they're probably running a somewhat conservative offense for him (I'm not sure as I haven't watched any Carolina games), but still. He's obviously filling whatever role they envisioned for him.
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ironmanag said:

Kyle Allen is not 4-0. Christian McCaffery and the Panthers are 4-0.

Allen is more like a participant.

They are winning in spite of him not because of him.
Huh. McCaffrey with 31 yards today and they still won.
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Well, White Lightning can only carry so much. Kyle has been far more than a "participant". McCaffrey didn't offer much today.
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