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With all due respect, these accusations may be a bit out there.Quote:
The way he lied, cheated, bribed police and witnesses and tried to cover-up Jameis' rape and other crimes and misdemeanors -all in order to protect his heisman /national championship quarterback!
From 247 sports - top jobs in CFB:Agsuffering@bulaw said:
And yes, A&M would be a slightly better job for a new coach than FSU
We have the SEC brand.
We have better facilities.
We have a bigger stadium.
We have more money to pay assistants.
The X-factor right now is that FSU has a real coach in Jimbo.
This list looks pretty good except for UCLA. Not sure why that program is anything special unless they just had to include another west coast school to appear balanced.jb6092 said:From 247 sports - top jobs in CFB:Agsuffering@bulaw said:
And yes, A&M would be a slightly better job for a new coach than FSU
We have the SEC brand.
We have better facilities.
We have a bigger stadium.
We have more money to pay assistants.
The X-factor right now is that FSU has a real coach in Jimbo.
1 - Alabama
2 - Ohio State
3 - Clemson
4 - USC
5 - Oklahoma
6 - Florida State
7 - Michigan
8 - Texas
9 - LSU
10 - Georgia
11 - Florida
12 - Notre Dame
13 - UCLA
14 - Penn State
15 - Texas A&M
Top 15 job - Yes
Slightly better than FSU - Probably not
lol FSU has finished unranked only 3 times since 2000Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Short version:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU,
The same Mike Shula that was was fired at Bama.mjfrog said:
Sooo...a lot of speculation on Jimbo to say he's the top target. If so, would be okay with it but not super excited. Based on what was suggested by another so-called-connected guy, if we're going after some big name nfl guys, there are some exciting prospects out there that would make some sense. Young Shula from Carolina for example; match that with a DC like Dennis Allen, and keep our better recruiters, keep Banks for example, then, I'm
Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Clemson should not be anywhere near the top 10. SC is a small state and lacks the talent to support 1 major program. And it lacks the SEC brand for recruiting. Dabo is the genuine article. Clemson without Dabo is a perpetual 8-4 ACC program.
ou likewise does not belong in the top 5. Stoops was to ou what Dabo is to Clemson. ou has to go into TX and take recruits away from A&M and tu. Now that A&M is in the SEC, that is much harder to do. ou struggled for years to get their stadium expansion built and ended up having to reduce the scope.
Boiling Denim said:lol FSU has finished unranked only 3 times since 2000Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Short version:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU,
A&M has finished RANKED 3 times in that same time
Delusion
What program out there isn't "perpetually 8-4 (or worse)" without a great coach at the helm?Agsuffering@bulaw said:
Clemson should not be anywhere near the top 10. SC is a small state and lacks the talent to support 1 major program. And it lacks the SEC brand for recruiting. Dabo is the genuine article. Clemson without Dabo is a perpetual 8-4 ACC program.
ou likewise does not belong in the top 5. Stoops was to ou what Dabo is to Clemson. ou has to go into TX and take recruits away from A&M and tu. Now that A&M is in the SEC, that is much harder to do. ou struggled for years to get their stadium expansion built and ended up having to reduce the scope.
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That 246 statement is lazy "journalism" at its worst.
So true. Bama fans always leave the stadium early.CoachLB said:
Reasons a coach will leave a really good job. #1 Cannot get along with AD, boosters etc. #2 Feels under appreciated. Saban said winning got to be a relief more than something to enjoy. No matter what you do the fans think it is not enough. Ever worked a job where no matter what you do it is not enough or not appreciated? #3 Needs a new challenge. Sometimes you just need to leave because you want the excitement of a new place and the challenge of starting something new. #4 Want to test yourself against the best. Successful coaches believe they can beat anybody and want to compete against the best. Can you imagine being the coach who knocks Saban from the throne? Several other reasons. Family etc. And I didn't even bring up Money.
ironmanag said:
If you remove the names and list every advantage of both programs A&M is on par or better.
Better funding, better conference, better facilities
FSU was nothing before Bowden.
QCAg93 said:
Not crazy about Fischer either or at least investing in him as if he will do much better than Sumlin. Take away J. Winston and most people would say Fischer who unless they really followed NCAA football. ACC to me is weaker than SEC and has he really done that much better?
41 years. Bowden started in 1976.HoustonAg2106 said:ironmanag said:
If you remove the names and list every advantage of both programs A&M is on par or better.
Better funding, better conference, better facilities
FSU was nothing before Bowden.
Nothing before Bowden huh? That was almost 40 years go you know
Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station. Now there's no guarantee that Fisher would actually leave the school he's been at for more than a decade (and eight years as a head coach) but if you think FSU is a more attractive job to a head coach at this point in time, you're completely off-base and are unfamiliar with all of the things beyond 'it's easier to win in the ACC and you don't have to coach against Saban' that make a great job better than a good one. We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.NoahAg said:Stopped reading here. NO ONE outside B/CS believes A&M is a better job than FSU.Quote:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU
Some of you are so delusional.
OldArmy72 said:
I'm an old and I would greatly love to see TAMU hire a real coach who can win us a conference championship or even a National Title. But I would never go so low as to sell my soul to get a scum bucket coach like Jimbo. The way he lied, cheated, bribed police and witnesses and tried to cover-up Jameis' rape and other crimes and misdemeanors -all in order to protect his heisman /national championship quarterback!
Not Only NO, But Hell NO to hiring someone who sold his soul to the devil. We don't need this kind of degenerate coaching our kids with no regard to right or wrong - regardless of their record!
Hire Jimbo Fisher and I'll mail my Aggie Ring back to the Association! I Guar-an-dam -tee You!
Liucci said:Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station. Now there's no guarantee that Fisher would actually leave the school he's been at for more than a decade (and eight years as a head coach) but if you think FSU is a more attractive job to a head coach at this point in time, you're completely off-base and are unfamiliar with all of the things beyond 'it's easier to win in the ACC and you don't have to coach against Saban' that make a great job better than a good one. We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.NoahAg said:Stopped reading here. NO ONE outside B/CS believes A&M is a better job than FSU.Quote:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU
Some of you are so delusional.
Hincemm said:Liucci said:Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station. Now there's no guarantee that Fisher would actually leave the school he's been at for more than a decade (and eight years as a head coach) but if you think FSU is a more attractive job to a head coach at this point in time, you're completely off-base and are unfamiliar with all of the things beyond 'it's easier to win in the ACC and you don't have to coach against Saban' that make a great job better than a good one. We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.NoahAg said:Stopped reading here. NO ONE outside B/CS believes A&M is a better job than FSU.Quote:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU
Some of you are so delusional.
Consider me a master debater then. I think they're equal jobs at best and give FSU the edge because they won it all recently.
I will not argue ags have more money and better facilities. Fan base and talent pool very similar though. FSU has recent winning on its side
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Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station...We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.
Hincemm said:
I frankly don't know what the record of each team over the past 40 years is. Will take your word for it.
Hincemm said:Liucci said:Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station. Now there's no guarantee that Fisher would actually leave the school he's been at for more than a decade (and eight years as a head coach) but if you think FSU is a more attractive job to a head coach at this point in time, you're completely off-base and are unfamiliar with all of the things beyond 'it's easier to win in the ACC and you don't have to coach against Saban' that make a great job better than a good one. We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.NoahAg said:Stopped reading here. NO ONE outside B/CS believes A&M is a better job than FSU.Quote:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU
Some of you are so delusional.
Consider me a master debater then. I think they're equal jobs at best and give FSU the edge because they won it all recently.
I will not argue ags have more money and better facilities. Fan base and talent pool very similar though. FSU has recent winning on its side
Electric said:
Wow, just wow. ATM is a better job than Florida St. I am pretty sure you won't find this anywhere but Texags. Shocked that Lucci chimed in on this.
Bayside Tiger Ag said:Hincemm said:Liucci said:Texas A&M is a better job than Florida State. If both jobs were open this season and the Aggies and Seminoles were vying for the same head coach, he'd end up in College Station. Now there's no guarantee that Fisher would actually leave the school he's been at for more than a decade (and eight years as a head coach) but if you think FSU is a more attractive job to a head coach at this point in time, you're completely off-base and are unfamiliar with all of the things beyond 'it's easier to win in the ACC and you don't have to coach against Saban' that make a great job better than a good one. We can debate a lot of things between now and December but let's officially put this one to rest.NoahAg said:Stopped reading here. NO ONE outside B/CS believes A&M is a better job than FSU.Quote:
A&M is a slightly better job than FSU
Some of you are so delusional.
Consider me a master debater then. I think they're equal jobs at best and give FSU the edge because they won it all recently.
I will not argue ags have more money and better facilities. Fan base and talent pool very similar though. FSU has recent winning on its side
Why would a coach give a flying **** about recent winning percentage when choosing a job?