One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

Dill-Ag13 said:

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That's a parenting issue if you let your kid become a big fan of someone as trash as TS

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Went to Tame Impala last night. They were supposed to play Astroworld on Saturday. Kevin Parker, the lead singer, addressed the crowd in a great way and kept checking on everyone throughout the show. He said "I'm not going to go on for long about it, but I know there's a weird feeling in Houston right now, and my heart breaks for what happened at Astroworld a few days ago. But I know that you guys will take care of each other and we'll take care of you and we'll all take care of each other. And we'll still have a really ****in' good time." And we did, we had a really ****ing good time.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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I think we all get it. He isn't a rapper, he's a pop singer in the same style as Lil Nas X. He makes music for teens and appeals to the same age demographic that used to fawn over groups like NSync. He may be from the Houston area, but in no way does he have a Houston style or sound, because outside of Destiny's Child, Houston isn't known for Pop music.

vansprinkle said:

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Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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I think we all get it. He isn't a rapper, he's a pop singer in the same style as Lil Nas X. He makes music for teens and appeals to the same age demographic that used to fawn over groups like NSync. He may be from the Houston area, but in no way does he have a Houston style or sound, because outside of Destiny's Child, Houston isn't known for Pop music.

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Houston doesn't have just one style or sound. Like it's diverse population, it has many. See Khruangbin, Lyle Lovett, Arcade Fire, Guitar Shorty, Blue October, Robert Earl Keen, Lizzo, Megan Thee Stallion, ZZ Top, and many others.

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It's a stretch to say Arcade Fire is a Houston band/sound just because Win Butler lived in the Woodlands for a while growing up.

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Even with their Grammy winning album The Suburbs being about his time growing up in the Woodlands? Regardless, the point still stands, Houston style and sound is not limited to one genre of music.

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Jackal99 said:

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And halted Billy Joel ticket sales. Billy ****ing Joel...

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Freaking clown world... unreal.

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2 things

1. There will be much less fentanyl used here. Not none, but less.

2. Have you seen the reaction when he goes into Scenes from an Italian Restaurant?

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The crowd can get a little testy when he strays too far from his standards:




My son's golf instructor is former military / LEO and does private security. He was there doing security for VIP. He talked to the dad of the little kid (who is actually not 9 until 12/14) who approached him when he came to looking for his son. They both looked for him and dad got passed on to HPD. He didn't know the kid made it until he saw that tweet.

He had a LOT to say about the sheetshow that happened, but took it all down because he fully expects to be a material witness in the criminal and civil actions to come.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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He's a complete fake. And a complete diva. He would cry if you just drove him through some Houston Section 8.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

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Nah.

This thread is the best authority I've heard on Travis Scott's music and it is Luciferian.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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I could not disagree more. He was never looking to fit in, he was looking to become a megastar, which he successfully has done. The sound is not unique, it's rap music that is extremely auto-tuned. Every move Travis has made in the last 4-5 years has been built on money, not on his true self. What is unique is his fanbase and his concerts. As others in this thread have post, he actively encourages people to rage and go ape**** in the crowd. There have been multiple incidents pre-Friday at other shows. I'm not fan of his music or his shows, but I also have no animosity towards him.

What occurred Friday was a boiling point over years that finally boiled over. I had two younger cousins of mine attend Friday who by the second song left because they too thought it was eery and dark. They said it was the greatest decision they've made in 2021 no matter how much money they lost. As for Travis, he should be preparing for the hundreds of lawsuits deservedly coming his way.

I'm not quite "get off my lawn" old, but getting there. I listen to my 80's stuff, have my 18 Sirius XM presets on my Ford (none of them comes close to touching on today's pop), have some Pandora stations that I will listen to based on Texas or old school country artists, or classic rock and hip-hop, or I listen to stand-up comedy. And my TV is limited to sports, kids' stuff and binge watching series for the first or tenth time.

So I can honestly say that I had never heard of Travis Scott. The only time I can really say I heard the name before was when there was a sign for his burger at McD, and I said "Who?". I didn't look it up. This thread has basically told me who he is and why he is popular enough to have a gate-busting stampede and trampling issues.

I don't think I'll ever be seen at a concert where this is an issue. I'll go to the Woodlands every 5 years or so. The only "Fest" I like are the kinds like Renaissance or Greek or International because of the booze and food. Although there was that one incident when The Lute Nymphs urged the crowd to get rowdy and a chain-mailed girl got elbowed in the face by a wizard, which caused a couple of goth kids to cry.

The videos of the scenes again make me wonder what the appeal is, but again, I am old.

Wycliffe_03 said:

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Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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He's a complete fake. And a complete diva. He would cry if you just drove him through some Houston Section 8.

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His mom shops in the Container Store in Champions All. The. Time.

Talking bout street cred.

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vansprinkle said:

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Head Ninja In Charge said:

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One thing about Travis Scott for those who may be unfamiliar, just to provide a little bit of context for this festival and honestly, what makes it even more sad than it would be had it been another rapper.

Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc). Honestly never saw him around town performing "local" shows in the last ten years.

He pretty much had to go to Los Angeles or major labels to get big using a brand built on party music and memorable live sets/concerts. That's his whole lane musically. Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

Then add in the fact that he was leader in "cool" for Gen Z with his look, friends, baby mama, etc. - it made his reach really, really wide.

That's why the crowd for his shows always skew younger, surprisingly diverse, and pull in people from the city and the burbs.

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I think we all get it. He isn't a rapper, he's a pop singer in the same style as Lil Nas X. He makes music for teens and appeals to the same age demographic that used to fawn over groups like NSync. He may be from the Houston area, but in no way does he have a Houston style or sound, because outside of Destiny's Child, Houston isn't known for Pop music.

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Houston doesn't have just one style or sound. Like it's diverse population, it has many. See Khruangbin, Lyle Lovett, Arcade Fire, Guitar Shorty, Blue October, Robert Earl Keen, Lizzo, Megan Thee Stallion, ZZ Top, and many others.

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Cory Morrow... Rodney Crowell.. Clint Black

ATM9000 said:

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Head Ninja In Charge said:

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Pretty much Linkin Park for rap. His music has never been offensive, or engrained in violence, or whatever. It was just party music for Zoomers.

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Nah.

This thread is the best authority I've heard on Travis Scott's music and it is Luciferian.

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It tries to be Luciferian. Upside down cross, all of that imagery etc. Some of his songs/videos are literally satanic/demonic in nature, intentionally. I won't argue that it's not just to be edgy and provocative (who knows for sure), but he definitely tries to give that image. And from a Christian's perspective, he is actually doing the work of the devil/trying to influence kids in a bad way. So many of his songs are just glorifying hard drugs and deviancy. So for Christians to trip over the upside down crucifix's etc is silly...he's trying to glorify drugs and sexual deviancy to your kids lol.

"Stop Trying To Be God" is outright Satanic. Just admit this, but say you don't care. Don't try to act like people are crazy for making these accusations.





IMO, he's just a weird dork who is phony and trying to be provocative. I wonder if he has much if any say in his music to begin with.

TexAgs1992 said:

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I had two younger cousins of mine attend Friday who by the second song left because they too thought it was eery and dark.

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It's crazy how many die hard fans have been saying the same thing. Some people are saying the frequency or pitch of his music was off and much less upbeat, and the loonier theories are that there are certain known sound frequencies that naturally trigger feelings of anxiety and discomfort.

I actually like a few of his songs and have them on several playlists, and all of the sounds and video I have heard from his concert sound like the crazy/scary circus version of those songs...much darker. But maybe that is just quality of recording, I don't know. Definitely a creepy vibe overall.

I want to hear more about the anxiety-inducing pitch and the heartbeat sound played throughout the day that was giving people headaches.

Head Ninja In Charge said:

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Travis Scott is a "local rapper" in the sense that he was a suburb kid (Missouri City) who had a unique sound that didn't fit in with what local rap sounds like for Houston. He, in a lot of ways, occupies his own space and didn't really fit with traditional chopped/screwed Houston or the FYHA local music scene of the 2010's (think Fat Tony, the Suffers, etc).

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This thread makes me feel like an aging Frank Sinatra in that old SNL skit, "The Sinatra Group."

"Once more around, pal ... it's all pops and buzzes from here."

Dill-Ag13 said:

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That's a parenting issue if you let your kid become a big fan of someone as trash as TS

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lol class of 13? big talk for someone that definitely has never had a teenager.

"let your kid become a fan"

lmao naive.

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MAS444 said:

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It's a stretch to say Arcade Fire is a Houston band/sound just because Win Butler lived in the Woodlands for a while growing up.

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His brother WIll is in the band too, so thats like 2/7ths of the band that is giving it that The Woodlands sound and culture

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THE Woodlands culture hahaha

Teddy Perkins said:

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MAS444 said:

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It's a stretch to say Arcade Fire is a Houston band/sound just because Win Butler lived in the Woodlands for a while growing up.

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Even with their Grammy winning album The Suburbs being about his time growing up in the Woodlands? Regardless, the point still stands, Houston style and sound is not limited to one genre of music.

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He was born in California, and went to a boarding school and currently identifies as a Canadian. He ain't Tine.

I really want this thread to do more mid-30's and early 40's probably white guys breaking down Travis Scott's 'sound' and lyrics.

It's always a good reminder that behind all the grandstanding, the vast majority of Texags posters are just a bunch of Michael Bolton's from Office Space.