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Update: Astroworld Festival victims' deaths ruled as accident due to asphyxiation, medical examiner finds (msn.com)
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texasaggie2015 said:

Update: Astroworld Festival victims' deaths ruled as accident due to asphyxiation, medical examiner finds (msn.com)


Well that squashes the OD/Fentanyl narrative some were trying so hard to push early in this thread.
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I Am A Critic said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Update: Astroworld Festival victims' deaths ruled as accident due to asphyxiation, medical examiner finds (msn.com)


Well that squashes the OD/Fentanyl narrative some were trying so hard to push early in this thread.


True. To be fair, I think that was a combination of two things. (A) the fact that fentanyl OD's from street drugs are significantly on the rise, and (B) Police in presser reporting that an officer had been injected with something and collapsed and had to be revived by narcan.
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Yeah that wasn't people pushing it but that's what was being reported early on.
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Boo Weekley said:

I Am A Critic said:

texasaggie2015 said:

Update: Astroworld Festival victims' deaths ruled as accident due to asphyxiation, medical examiner finds (msn.com)


Well that squashes the OD/Fentanyl narrative some were trying so hard to push early in this thread.


True. To be fair, I think that was a combination of two things. (A) the fact that fentanyl OD's from street drugs are significantly on the rise, and (B) Police in presser reporting that an officer had been injected with something and collapsed and had to be revived by narcan.


The police officer being injected has been debunked already.
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This article may induce a panic attack. Interviews with paramedics at Asterwhirhl fest:

https://www.businessinsider.com/astroworld-medics-describe-chaos-as-travis-scott-fans-were-suffocated-2021-12


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As the West Coast medical director of ParaDocs Worldwide, a mobile medicine team hired by Astroworld organizers, Barron helped lead a team of more than 70 ParaDocs staffers stationed throughout the festival grounds and inside medical tents. The medic teams ended up treating hundreds of injuries, including 11 people in cardiac arrest.
That actually sounds like more than I would have guessed. The problem was getting around through the crowd.

The more we know about the crowd size and security staffing, I'm surprised there hasn't been more scrutiny of NRG park management that signed off on all this. They have years of experience and crowd data to draw on for NRG events. I've seen it reported that NRG made a last-minute request of the event organizers to add additional security, which led to a bunch of untrained temp workers at gates. Why was that last minute? NRG Park management should be hands on with security staffing and crowd and traffic management from start to finish.
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You could have had the 4th ID in charge of security and Lina's field hospital tent set up outside the gate and the same exact thing would have happened.

People been cooped up with this covid nonsense for two years. When they finally got a chance to go to a show, the forgot how to act, went hog ass wild and killed each other.
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Harry Lime said:

This article may induce a panic attack. Interviews with paramedics at Asterwhirhl fest:

https://www.businessinsider.com/astroworld-medics-describe-chaos-as-travis-scott-fans-were-suffocated-2021-12


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As the West Coast medical director of ParaDocs Worldwide, a mobile medicine team hired by Astroworld organizers, Barron helped lead a team of more than 70 ParaDocs staffers stationed throughout the festival grounds and inside medical tents. The medic teams ended up treating hundreds of injuries, including 11 people in cardiac arrest.
That actually sounds like more than I would have guessed. The problem was getting around through the crowd.

The more we know about the crowd size and security staffing, I'm surprised there hasn't been more scrutiny of NRG park management that signed off on all this. They have years of experience and crowd data to draw on for NRG events. I've seen it reported that NRG made a last-minute request of the event organizers to add additional security, which led to a bunch of untrained temp workers at gates. Why was that last minute? NRG Park management should be hands on with security staffing and crowd and traffic management from start to finish.


NRG doesn't control security. CSC does. CSC is a third party company that is contracted by NRG for all their events, but NRG doesn't really control them at all.

Toyota Center on the other hand, does employ all their security staff directly.
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Once the ticket gates/metal detectors were overrun/bypassed, the entire event has to be postponed or shut down at that point due to the grounds being compromised.
I understand the uppers not wanting to cause a riot at that point by moving everyone back out and rescanning tickets/rescreening everyone (and the end result may have been more injuries), but control of the venue was lost at that point and it was all downhill from there. The rushing of the gates may not have directly caused the fatalities, but had the call been made at that point, things could have been different.
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spadilly said:

Once the ticket gates/metal detectors were overrun/bypassed, the entire event has to be postponed or shut down at that point due to the grounds being compromised.
I understand the uppers not wanting to cause a riot at that point by moving everyone back out and rescanning tickets/rescreening everyone (and the end result may have been more injuries), but control of the venue was lost at that point and it was all downhill from there. The rushing of the gates may not have directly caused the fatalities, but had the call been made at that point, things could have been different.


Agreed. I think this is also going to be a huge part of most of the lawsuits. There is video proof of an initial stampede at the gates when they were badly compromised and vandalized. The videos showed many were inside the event most likely without tickets. That happened many hours before the show started and all reports indicated they did not take many additional predations after that. I've been to a lot of large concerts/festivals and I've never seen anything remotely happen like that at the entrances. That should have been a major red flag for security and the event management.
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Travis Scott not guilty. Kim Ogg not happy.


Scott's attorney, Kent Schaffer, said in a statement: "My client Travis Scott will not be charged with criminal charges or any wrongdoing for his involvement with AstroWorld festival. Today's decision by the Harris County District Attorney confirms what we have known all along that Travis Scott is not responsible for the AstroWorld tragedy. This is consistent with investigative reporting by numerous media outlets and federal and state government reports that have squarely placed the onus for event safety crises on organizers, operators and contractors not performers. While waiting patiently for the District Attorney's decision to not file charges, Travis Scott has been inaccurately and wrongly singled out, despite stopping the show three separate times and being unaware of the events as they were unfolding. Now that this chapter is closed, we hope for the government efforts to focus on what is most important stopping future heartbreaking tragedies like AstroWorld from ever occurring again."

Travis Scott Not Facing Criminal Charges Over Astroworld Crowd Rush Rolling Stone
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That's BS
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Does that include the people who were running around stabbing the police with drug laden syringes as Chief Fenner stated that night?
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agz win said:

Travis Scott not guilty. Kim Ogg not happy.


Scott's attorney, Kent Schaffer, said in a statement: "My client Travis Scott will not be charged with criminal charges or any wrongdoing for his involvement with AstroWorld festival. Today's decision by the Harris County District Attorney confirms what we have known all along that Travis Scott is not responsible for the AstroWorld tragedy. This is consistent with investigative reporting by numerous media outlets and federal and state government reports that have squarely placed the onus for event safety crises on organizers, operators and contractors not performers. While waiting patiently for the District Attorney's decision to not file charges, Travis Scott has been inaccurately and wrongly singled out, despite stopping the show three separate times and being unaware of the events as they were unfolding. Now that this chapter is closed, we hope for the government efforts to focus on what is most important stopping future heartbreaking tragedies like AstroWorld from ever occurring again."

Travis Scott Not Facing Criminal Charges Over Astroworld Crowd Rush Rolling Stone
I figured it was a long shot to be able to convict Scott in a criminal court. The fact that a grand jury decided not to even indict him shows that it was a tough case to make. Now for a civil case, him and the organizers could still be looking at being sued out of tons of money.
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