tk for tu juan said:

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Never realized we had rap snobs that only listen to people if they slang rock on the corner and/or made some bodies turn cold.

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Don't mess with Nate Dog, yo.

Security guard that was "*****ed"…

We did locate that security guard. His story is not consistent with that. Struck in his head, went unconscious. No one injected drugs in him.

Knocks down story that he shared on Saturday that a security guard was injected with a substance. “We did locate that security guard. His story is not consistent with that. He says he was struck in the head, he went unconscious” "He said no one injected drugs in him.”

— J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) November 10, 2021

NYT reporter from today's HPD press conference with Houston Police Chief Troy Finner.

“Where are we right now? We’re nowhere right now," said the chief.

— J. David Goodman (@jdavidgoodman) November 10, 2021

Another source at the press conference:

Houston Police chief says they located the security guard who they initially heard was pricked in the neck — and he says no one injected him. He says he was punched - not injected. It was bad info chief says.

— Brian Entin (@BrianEntin) November 10, 2021

Who planted this misinformation with the media?

And I didn't expected HPD to have a completed investigation, but to say that you are "nowhere" right now in the investigation is awful. I'd be furious if I were a parent or friend.

Give me something - how about starting with how many people were supposed to be in the areas where people were killed and how many were estimated in each?

During the Saturday press conf when the police chief was originally talking about the security guard, the lady behind him looked like she wanted the chief to shut up and not mention it.

This has been my first real introduction to our new police chief and I am not impressed. Today's press conf gave me very little confidence in the investigation.

Edit: here's today's full PC for anyone wanting to form their own opinions:

What the ****
(Video is disturbing/tough to watch)

JJxvi said:

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I'd be more surprised if they actually were getting anywhere. The problem is going to turn out to be that these events are inherently unsafe in the right set of circumstances under the current set of safety regulations. Their investigation almost certainly wont lead to "its the governments fault for allowing unsafe events" so they will have to dig up something else. If anything ever does happen in terms of showing what really happened and making changes that makes future events safer, it will likely come from Federal involvement years from now.

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Edit: sorry I def didn't do a very good job of reading your post the first time. But I still think the questions below are something that our local law enforcement should be capable and upfront about answering.


Well yeah but I think it will be important to learn who knew what and when. Why couldn't they just stop the show for a few min and ask everyone to take a few breaths and spread out a little. They had aerial shots of the crowd on the broadcast all night, there's no way they didn't see the "sinkholes" forming. The mass casualty was called like 30+ min before the end of the show. I'm not saying they had to call it off (bc they're saying that would have caused a bigger event/riot) but they could have done SOMETHING. My suspicion is that either TS's team refused to tell him or they told him and he didn't give a f. But still, there had to be failures across all levels.

I'll admit that as parent with kids who are getting to the ages that they want to go to "real" concerts without us (we haven't let them yet) I am probably a little over invested in this.

This is basically already a known problem, but the music industry, venues, and many governments basically take a "well somebody's gonna make all this extra money if we don't, and probably nobody will die this time anyway." But every so often people do and then that city maybe bans it for a while.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1991-03-04-ca-59-story.html

Breezed through a lot of this but did anyone mention apparently Travis Scott and Drake had a private party at Dave and Buster's after the show. Apparently it was a bad look they were there considering what happened so they left early.

The bad look for me is they organized a private party at Dave and Buster's in the first place. Couple rappers going private at a giant arcade. Then again, maybe it's totally knowing your audience…

i wouldnt be the person i am today if it werent for all the time i spent at Mary janes, walters, fitz, the oven, abyss, numbers etc etc etc. im well out of the music scene these days but surely there are still some small venues like those around town. i think out of those i listed only numbers might be left, but im not even sure on that.

Being reported that the 22 year old Aggie is declared brain-dead.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/10/astroworld-victim-bharti-shahani-declared-brain-dead-from-injury-reports/

Teddy Perkins said:

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Being reported that the 22 year old Aggie is declared brain-dead.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/10/astroworld-victim-bharti-shahani-declared-brain-dead-from-injury-reports/

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Sad to hear, thank you for posting.

Chewy said:

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Breezed through a lot of this but did anyone mention apparently Travis Scott and Drake had a private party at Dave and Buster's after the show. Apparently it was a bad look they were there considering what happened so they left early.

The bad look for me is they organized a private party at Dave and Buster's in the first place. Couple rappers going private at a giant arcade. Then again, maybe it's totally knowing your audience…

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You serious Clark? That's tone deaf af, pardon the pun. Agree with you though, at least the Biebs goes to real clubs when he comes around...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/travis-scott-went-party-astroworld-was-unaware-tragedy-source-says-rcna5080

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Travis Scott attended a party at Dave & Buster's after he performed at his Astroworld festival in Houston on Friday night, unaware that eight people had died and dozens of others had been injured during the concert, sources close to Scott said.

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Article also mentions it was hosted by Drake.

ooof
bad look Instagram. this was an ad reel at a concert. shows a girl excited smiling, him performing then the phone dropping.


maaaaybe bad timing

I am the only one that doesn't really care about this? Don't get me wrong, it sucks and folks dying saddens me, but this, to me, is the same as hearing a out a bad car wreck on the other side of town. It certainly sucks, and on to the next thing.

Ag_07 said:

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A mass casualty event at a concert is a bit more news worthy than a bad wreck across town.

I have no interest in Travis Scott but it's an interesting situation that's garnering national attention. I'd be following along regardless of who was performing.

Not to mention the ramifications this is going to have (justified or not) on concerts and festivals moving forward.

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This. These venues already had interest in what liability (i.e. insurance) protection these acts had coming into their venue. I saw the promoting company had something like $20-$25 million in total coverage which is going to get more than wiped out so you are going to have the venue and others doling out money as well settling all the lawsuits.

What's the solution here? Smaller paddocks with tighter controls over who gets in?

U2 - Where The Streets Have No Name (Official Music Video)

You want to know what a real police department does? This part from an old music video (that is also a favorite of mine) shows exactly what you do. Did they have the authority to shut it down? Who knows, that's for the lawyers to figure out later.