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This series sweep brought to you by 88JRT06
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Ferris Wheel Allstar said:



and


69 this weekend
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anybody going to Cali this week for LA and/or SF? I'll be there for both

yes humble brag
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We look very pedestrian at the plate and up the middle without correa and altuve in there. Not a playoff caliber lineup at all.
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Ferris Wheel Allstar said:

This series sweep brought to you by 88JRT06
Sad.
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Heading into the Mariners series with only a 4 game lead and without Altuve & Correa is pretty scary.
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This is what it felt like as an Astros fan to get swept by the garbage rangers at home.

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I ate a lot of crow via text this weekend, that's for sure.

Worst lineup I've seen in awhile, but silver lining is it's comprised of young up and comers and this was an extremely low stakes series in the grand scheme of things:



Absolutely have to take the series this weekend and get back on track, Altuve/Correa or no.


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Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage
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How long's the suspension?

We need an effective version of "him".
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gougler08 said:

Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage


And Giles is headed to Toronto
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gougler08 said:

Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage


Canadian violence or American violence?
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Bondag said:

gougler08 said:

Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage


Canadian violence or American violence?
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gougler08 said:

Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage
Osuna might still go to jail or have his visa rejected so I wouldnt celebrate. This is basically two teams swapping guys they cant use, but only the Blue Jays currently know they can even put their guy on the field, plus they are way to the good on the PR side as well. This is just a dump of Giles for trash that might be back to being a good player someday. Maybe this fall, maybe next year, maybe never,
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Are you saying he's trash because 1) he's a DV scumbag 2) he's unlikely to get reps (legal) or 3) he's lost it, pitching?
Honest Q: I don't know the backstory here. Except that the 'stros are in dire need.
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I'm not exactly familiar with what he did, but I suspect many will probably say he's trash because of that, based on what I have heard.

What I meant, however, was that he's "trash" in the sense that he's currently a useless part of a baseball team's roster in the same way I would say that Ken Giles is trash, because your closer is worthless if he's at AAA because he's a nutcase that blows up in spectacular fashion. Toronto cant use him, has no idea when he'll play, and he's also a PR nightmare...so IMO teams are swapping trash here, but Toronto got a much less smelly bag when it comes down to it, IMO.
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Thanks.
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Pitching wise, Osuna is most definitely not trash. In terms of quality and salary/years of control, etc.
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JJxvi said:

Pitching wise, Osuna is most definitely not trash. In terms of quality and salary/years of control, etc.


Yeah he's a top 5 closer in the league assuming he can play, .91 career WHIP. It's a gamble but hope it works out
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Bondag said:

gougler08 said:

Apparently we have just traded for Osuna, the closer from the Blue Jays. Currently suspended but will be coming off it soon...he's been lights out for the last couple years but the suspension is for domestic violence so he'll have baggage


Canadian violence or American violence?
30 games. Failed to profusely apologize after a woman that wasn't watching where she was going bumped into him in a Tim Horton's and made him drop his honey dip.
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Another L
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Ozuna should help with beating other teams
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Panama Red said:

Ozuna should help with beating other teams
ok, i laughed
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Panama Red said:

Ozuna should help with beating other teams
Just keep Julie away from him

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This could all be for nothing. Osuna's court date is tomorrow. His legal trouble could stop him from getting a US work visa. Then it would have all been about just dumping Giles.
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jbanda said:

This could all be for nothing. Osuna's court date is tomorrow. His legal trouble could stop him from getting a US work visa. Then it would have all been about just dumping Giles.
Still a win.
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jbanda said:

This could all be for nothing. Osuna's court date is tomorrow. His legal trouble could stop him from getting a US work visa. Then it would have all been about just dumping Giles.

Correct me if I'm wrong but if Osuna is convicted or pleads out or has his US work visa rejected can the Astros cut him and void his contract?

If so, then this was a brilliant way to dump Giles and his contract and free up cash.
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I don't think they did it to save the $2mm or do they still owe Giles. That would have been pretty dumb. They obviously expect Osuna to play
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BMX Bandit said:

I don't think they did it to save the $2mm or do they still owe Giles. That would have been pretty dumb. They obviously expect Osuna to play

I thought they were on the hook for a great deal more than that for Giles.

Perhaps you're right and they investigated this and feel Osuna might be cleared?

Either way, the bats need to pick up. With Altuve on the DL every single damn guy except Bregman is down significantly from last year. I see bad AB after bad AB and guys pressing. I know the game today is predicated on the long ball and extra-base hits but for ****'s sake, just swing the bat and make contact and good things will happen. They need to relax and let their abilities take over because damn near the entire lineup looks uncomfortable at the plate.
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what if he is found "Not Guilty"?
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This lineup is brutal to watch without Correa & Altuve in it
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Yep, hitting's contagious.
We have a few guys like Altuve, Bregman and Gurriel who are going to get quality ABs consistently, no matter what, but a lot of our talent tends to slump at the same time...probably because a lot of youth.
Grrrr.

We need our DP combo to get healthy at the same time, too. CC's not too far away, and he's a confident hitter and a leader. Been missed a lot, especially at the plate.
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He's still in arbitration phase. After season, they could have been done with him.
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88jrt06 said:

Yep, hitting's contagious.
We have a few guys like Altuve, Bregman and Gurriel who are going to get quality ABs consistently, no matter what, but a lot of our talent tends to slump at the same time...probably because a lot of youth.
Grrrr.

We need our DP combo to get healthy at the same time, too. CC's not too far away, and he's a confident hitter and a leader. Been missed a lot, especially at the plate.
Yuli has been good but he's still down from last year, just not as much as most of the rest of the core of this lineup.

Springer's OPS is down 100 points from last year and Marwin's OPS is off by almost 70 from his career average.
 
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