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Snake Thread: 2024

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krosch11
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That one fooled me too. I was cottonmouth all the way .
Badace52
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I see what you are saying, but it's just too wide and flat for me to go with DBWS. I could see where it might be one though if it's just gripping the sidewalk real hard while pushing forward.
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12f Mane
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I think that's the case. The real big females (4ft plus) almost seem like different species.

The snake in question might be full of babies or a big meal.

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Body thickness and bands are what made me think cotton mouth. Bands didn't look as uniform to me. Similar to this hog

This is a good reason why if I ever see a snake in the water with me I'm not waiting around to find out which one it is
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Both on the ID and the SOP for snakes in the water
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This one was higher than my hat.
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I cam across my first hognose on Saturday. I took the boys on a walk around our neighborhood which has a good section of woods. We made it to the turnaround at the end of the trail and I told my oldest that I was disappointed we've never seen a copperhead or hognose. About three minutes later on our way back, I spotted this guy starting to cross the path.

We watched him for a few minutes and encouraged him back into the woods before the next group of people came across him.




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12f Mane said:

TarponChaser said:

Posted on the neighborhood FB page. They must have been 100' away so I can't see the head but the pattern does look sorta cottonmouth'ish. Personally I would have gotten a lot closer but whatever.



This is a really tough one but I am going with gravid diamondback water snake. Neck to head ratio, band widths, and coloration all say diamondback to me, not cotton.
I'm in the cottonmouth crowd on this one.
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I think this ID has bothered me more than any other from all the snake threads. I'm still 60/40 DBWS/cottonmouth but the more I look the more I don't know. The band widths are really throwing me off.
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One last pic:



He put on quite a show, but never played dead.
12f Mane
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The coloration on that one is neat
Harrison Wells
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Jack County. Identification help, por favor.

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Is that a coachwhip?
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That's a great example of a coachwhip tail
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Yes, coachwhip. Non-venomous.
Harrison Wells
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Thanks for the ID. It's a pretty snake, as far as snakes go, obviously.
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Looks like we are switching to rat snakes this year…




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Quit choking your chicken…..





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MouthBQ98 said:

Looks like we are switching to rat snakes this year…






That's a big improvement from the copperhead incubator. At least I would think so.
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Saw three more watersnakes but couldn't get pictures of them. Several fuzzberts on the trail.


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DoitBest said:

Ok, we've been in this house 25 years & never seen a coral snake, then our dog takes out 3 in the past 12 months, y'all said could be coincidence..well he got #4 tonight. Am I missing something, under pool filter/heater or what should I look for?


Edit to say I know to look out for more coral snakes ....
I've seen two live ones in the north Houston suburbs. The one in my back yard slipped underneath the St Augustine as quickly as it could. You probably have them buried underneath the grass and don't even know.
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ought1ag said:

Had a visit from this gentle dude this AM

Jagged body spells Rat Snake. Right?
12f Mane
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Yes, although this one is a Great Plains ratsnake as opposed to the more often posted Texas ratsnake
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Kinky Slinky.
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https://www.wfaa.com/article/life/animals/fort-worth-zoo-releases-75-endangered-louisiana-pine-snakes-into-wild/287-ea209459-e2e9-4d68-951f-95548f696048

Thought this group might like this. So many snakes.
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MyNameIsJeff said:

12f Mane said:

TarponChaser said:

Posted on the neighborhood FB page. They must have been 100' away so I can't see the head but the pattern does look sorta cottonmouth'ish. Personally I would have gotten a lot closer but whatever.



This is a really tough one but I am going with gravid diamondback water snake. Neck to head ratio, band widths, and coloration all say diamondback to me, not cotton.
I'm in the cottonmouth crowd on this one.


Same.
12f Mane
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Very cool and good news. It's not looking great for that species in Texas, and it could certainly be gone in our lifetime.
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What's the deal - loss of habitat? Issues with food source?

Other similar snakes seems to be thriving just fine here
12f Mane
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Conversion of longleaf pine savannas via silviculture, ranching, lack of fire regime, etc. They depend on open grassy understories with enough of an herbaceous layer to support pocket gophers, their main food source and burrow source. They might still be around in the southern Angelina NF, Sabine NF, and well managed private land near Burkeville but no individuals (to my knowledge) have been observed in more than a few years. And that is with biologists specifically targeting them with snake traps.

I was lucky to know some of the biologists running the program and got to help out with some of the trapping for them. Neat experience with lots of snakes to be seen.

Typical trap set up





Particularly successful trap



Here's one of the last adult Louisiana pinesnakes found in Texas, from 2008. Found by a friend while he was conducting surveys. There's a possibility this snake may be the parent of the babies in the article, but I'm not sure. I photographed it at SFA before it got sent off.

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We had Louisiana Pine Snakes when I worked at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. Really neat snake. Got to handle some of them - they were very laid back.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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That's a lotta coral snakes !
12f Mane
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I miss that snake room.
zooguy96
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12f Mane said:

I miss that snake room.


Yeah, me too.

I'm going to the International Snake Expo in West Daytona Beach in August for my birthday.

Hopefully, I can find a Lystrophis (tri-colored South American Hognose) and a Mexican Hognose.
I know a lot about a little, and a little about a lot.
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The people watching at a reptile show is freaking outstanding. Even better than the animals.
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Quote:

We had Louisiana Pine Snakes when I worked at the Texas Zoo in Victoria. Really neat snake. Got to handle some of them - they were very laid back.
My hometown zoo! Been a long time.
 
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