******** Dallas Cowboys 2020 Season ********

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MooreTrucker
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gigem1223 said:

MooreTrucker said:



I get that. And yet half of your examples HAVE won Super Bowls, and more have won conference championships.


The point is not they have won in the past. The point is they haven't since being paid. Although, I think you're kind of making that point for me.
Glad to help.

It does look like Big Ben may be on track this year, tho.
TyHolden
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MooreTrucker said:

gigem1223 said:

MooreTrucker said:



I get that. And yet half of your examples HAVE won Super Bowls, and more have won conference championships.


The point is not they have won in the past. The point is they haven't since being paid. Although, I think you're kind of making that point for me.
Glad to help.

It does look like Big Ben may be on track this year, tho.
the steelers have drafted once in the single digits in the first round since 1989.
the cowboys have drafted 8 times in the same time span.
Danny Phantom
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My bad I read it wrong then. But I agree with you in trading back is the best move & it would open up all kind of options. We would be able to draft defensive players or trade for a proven veteran with the additional 1st & 2nd rounder we get
Grapesoda2525
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Redskins beat cincy that helps us a bit.

Unfortunately the eagles are losing this week.
PatAg
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We've fallen so far, Jonathan Vilma is calling our games
Mozart Paintings
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Anyone know a link I could stream the game on?
Saint Pablo
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Dono!
Danny Phantom
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So..... Super Bowl?
Saint Pablo
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Dumbass win.
TyHolden
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drop 3 spots in the draft.
if we beat redskins on Thursday, we're probably out of top 10.
of course, we'd be leading the east then and get that glorious one and done in the playoffs we know so well.
MooreTrucker
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Saint Pablo said:

Dumbass win.
"Dumbass" is trying and planning to lose.

Ag12thman
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Saint Pablo said:

Dumbass win.
Minnesota is terrible and are no better than any of the NFC East teams and draft positioning is of utmost importance at this point in the season with 7 losses, IMO.

The worst place to finish in the NFL is mediocre, because you just get STUCK there. An L would probably have been the better long-term result. We need high draft picks and several of them.
TyHolden
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we have 3 nfc east games and the bengals on the schedule. no way we we're gonna lose out. vikings were on a 3-game winning streak so maybe it's coming together somewhat.
Danny Phantom
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We're still slotted at the #4 pick even though we won.
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
MookieBlaylock
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Bengals have nothing
eagles are the worst team in the NFc East
Redskins Thursday for the lead
Sadly the cowboys have 4 wins left on the schedule so 7 and 9 is very possible with
TyHolden
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Danny Phantom said:

We're still slotted at the #4 pick even though we won.
http://www.tankathon.com/nfl
that's great news! SOS is tie breaker.
TyHolden
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MookieBlaylock said:

Bengals have nothing
eagles are the worst team in the NFc East
Redskins Thursday for the lead
Sadly the cowboys have 4 wins left on the schedule so 7 and 9 is very possible with
we had 2 weeks to prepare for this game. I'd hold off on that prediction until at least Thursday.
Danny Vermin
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They will win at least 4 more games and win the division. It sucks that we will get a mid 1st round pick and a first place schedule next season.
Southlake
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Burrow is out for the year. Cincy game is very winnable now.
Grapesoda2525
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Redskins dominated us last time. I bet they do it our again. Our offensive line is full of backups.
Ag Natural
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Martin will play this time and he makes a big difference. I'll bet this game looks a lot different than the last one.
DannyDuberstein
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LOL at Witten with a critical false start
gigem1223
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Ag Natural said:

Martin will play this time and he makes a big difference. I'll bet this game looks a lot different than the last one.


And no DiNucci
DannyDuberstein
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DannyDuberstein said:

LOL at Witten with a critical false start


Then redeems himself
Grapesoda2525
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99% of the time I want us to win no matter what. However, I still think it makes sense to tank.

The rest of the NFC east sucks for the foreseeable future because they don't have good / reliable quarterbacks. We have 3 games left with each of these teams and if we lost them all, we could keep the rest of the NFC east down for the next several years by making sure they don't draft high enough to get a stud QB like Lawrence or fields.

If we had Dak and a healthy offensive line, my calculus would be to ignore the above, win all we can, and fight for the playoffs.

We don't have dak and we don't have a healthy / good offensive line at all. The defensive backs are either too young or terrible. We still have a ton of holes in this team. It's sucks because we're likely not going to tank, but this is one of the few years where it makes all the sense in the world and we have several built in excuses like backup QB and no offensive line. Just freaking tank jerry!
gigem1223
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All McCarthy and this team cares about is winning the east and that's very doable. Jerry would lose the team and this coaching staff if he forced them to tank. Honest question: do you really believe these players and staff would actually tank when winning puts them in contention for a playoff spot? Do you really think these players and coaches are gonna throw away their shot at performance bonuses for the long-term betterment of the franchise? To me, This idea that coaches and players actually tank is ridiculous.
Macarthur
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Agree. These players don't give a crap about the draft pick. You can't expect these guys to lay down. It's kinda funny because so many fans complain that pro players are only concerned w money and don't play the game for the right reasons, yet when the season goes south, they want them to lose on purpose. So which is it?
TyHolden
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If we beat the skins and follow it up with a win against the Ravens, I certainly wouldn't feel too bad about winning the East and falling in the draft....big IF
Grapesoda2525
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gigem1223 said:

All McCarthy and this team cares about is winning the east and that's very doable. Jerry would lose the team and this coaching staff if he forced them to tank. Honest question: do you really believe these players and staff would actually tank when winning puts them in contention for a playoff spot? Do you really think these players and coaches are gonna throw away their shot at performance bonuses for the long-term betterment of the franchise? To me, This idea that coaches and players actually tank is ridiculous.
Their are 2 likely scenarios where we see the cowboys end up if they sit here and pretend like they're a good team fighting for a playoff spot.

1) the team fights and does it's best, wins some and loses some then loses the last game to NYG and barely misses the playoffs. We would probably have an undesirable ( from trade perspective) draft pick narrowly outside the top 10.

2) team fights and wins the nfc east. Due to the new wildcard rules, we would probably end up playing a NFC west beast team and lose in the first round. We would draft in the teens. Undesirable draft pick for both trade and front office perspective.

I understand that many players don't think about the long term future of the team because many of them won't be there when that time comes. What is so painful about not seeing the team tank this year is that we might be missing out on a bounty of draft picks to fill tons of holes in the team and we undoubtedly would keep other teams in our division down if we did tank.
Saint Pablo
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MooreTrucker said:

Saint Pablo said:

Dumbass win.
"Dumbass" is trying and planning to lose.


I disagree. The Cowboys have no shot at winning the Super Bowl this year, the most positive outcome at the end of the year is landing the highest draft pick we can possibly get. I understand that coaches and players don't want to lose, but it would be better for the Cowboys longterm future to get a top three pick that they could trade for a bucket of picks to help build up the lines or get some help in the defensive backfield.
Saint Pablo
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thomas20:29 said:

If we beat the skins and follow it up with a win against the Ravens, I certainly wouldn't feel too bad about winning the East and falling in the draft....big IF
Why? So we can get throttled by the Rams or Bucs and sent home round one?
MookieBlaylock
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Yes the top 5 pick would be great but the Skins have Alex Smith playing
The BengAls have no QB or tb
The eagles have Carson playing who got outplayed by Baker

Those teams are now worse than the cowboys

MooreTrucker
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DannyDuberstein said:

LOL at Witten with a critical false start
And LOL at how he tried to avoid it by acting like he was going in motion.
Saint Pablo
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MookieBlaylock said:

Yes the top 5 pick would be great but the Skins have Alex Smith playing
The BengAls have no QB or tb
The eagles have Carson playing who got outplayed by Baker

Those teams are now worse than the cowboys


I wouldn't say this definitively, especially considering the way the Redskins beat our asses last time we played!
gigem1223
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Saint Pablo said:

MookieBlaylock said:

Yes the top 5 pick would be great but the Skins have Alex Smith playing
The BengAls have no QB or tb
The eagles have Carson playing who got outplayed by Baker

Those teams are now worse than the cowboys


I wouldn't say this definitively, especially considering the way the Redskins beat our asses last time we played!


Yea I mean just forget Dalton was knocked out, the OL was completely different and the defense was at its low point. There's a reason Dallas is the favorite Thursday
 
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