Started this war due to pressure from Israel

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Captain Ahab
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Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war
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The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.
agdoc2001
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Lol. "No imminent threat"
Ellis Wyatt
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This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.
TyHolden
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October 7th 2023...fafo
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LMCane
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Captain Ahab said:

Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war
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The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.


Knew that one of the anti-semites would be first to post a brand new thread on this -

as opposed to just adding it to the 120 page thread that already exists on the political aspects of the war.

so Trump is so WEAK and malleable he just allows "the Jews" to control him now?!?!

how about the millions of Iranians who wanted Trump to attack the Islamic Republic?

how about the millions of ARABS who wanted Trump to attack their enemy in Teheran?

how about the millions of AMERICANS who wanted Trump to attack their enemy in Teheran.

notice how just exactly like in Nazi Germany from 1931-1945: the anti-semites always blame "the Jews" for starting wars and not the other 7 billion humans on the planet.
TxAgLaw03RW
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I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.
Spotted Ag
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No imminent threat but they struck US bases and interests with their rockets and missiles. Yeah, OK.
Rapier108
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If he thinks Iran isn't a threat, then good riddance.

Iran has been a threat for almost 50 years and has been funding terrorism since that time. Give them nuclear weapons and the world becomes a million times more dangerous because unlike the rest of the countries who have them, Iran is run by a bunch of apocalyptic fanatics who don't care if they die, and take countless people with them.

Guy tried to run multiple times on Trump's coattails and always lost. Most likely he was always a squishy Republican at best. Another example of Trump not picking the best person, but picking someone who publicly kissed his ass over and over.
Crocker91
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It's not just about preventing them from getting nukes. The evidence is they probably already have or are super close. It's about reversing that if possible but more importantly stopping them from getting the delivery systems they've been developing.
will25u
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Deep State purging itself.
Detmersdislocatedshoulder
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the war with iran is infinitely more complex than just nukes. that is a component yes but nowhere near the sole purpose of this war.
nortex97
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This guy is CIA and while he has served honorably (lost his wife etc) I think the political angle is unmistakable in that letter.

I think if one objects to the mission, especially if working in an executive agency/as a presidential appointment/schedule C etc., one should resign and leave, but doing so in such a public manner is absurd and harmful to the objectives/mission of the commander in chief, period.

ETA, I think he likely has issues with his wife's death being 'caused by' Israel somehow, and that emotional anger has perhaps led him to some...wrong conclusions. I just don't accept that Trump was cajoled/bullied into a war with Iran by the Israeli's. Some may freely disagree of course but that is just not how the guy rolls, imho.
rgag12
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A country that was openly stockpiling weapons grade nuclear material, and ramping up their war industry to G7 levels was not a threat and would never be a threat.

Right
halfastros81
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Clearly there was pressure from Israel . That doesn't mean it wasn't the right thing to do tho. The mullahs and their attack dogs have been a bloody and expensive thorn in the free world's side for many, many decades not to mention tyrannical over their own populace. The calculus may very well have been we'll spend less blood and treasure just getting rid of the threat once and for all. The Iranians also have admitted arranging for attempts on our President's life as well.

The Arab and predominantly Sunni countries in the ME Region want them gone and they also have said they will purge radical Islamists supported by Iran out of their countries once this is over as well.

If the iron grip on Iran can be broken and I believe it can everyone benefits except the Mullahs and their attack dogs and Russia , China, and Radical Islamists everywhere.
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TxAgLaw03RW said:

I don't understand this logic. Should we wait until Iran is an imminent nuclear threat? Seems dumb.

Yes.

Because a nuclear armed Iran wouldn't be able to blackmail the rest of the world by shutting down the Straits of Hormuz. And they certainly wouldn't fire their ballistic missiles at their neighbors if they had nuclear weapons.

We should have given them another 20 years, and more pallets of cash.
japantiger
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This should get folded into the political war thread to go along with all the other IDS posts...Israel is simultaneously a godless, secular cabal faking Torah legitimacy to puppet the US into Iran... and a cabal of ultra-zealous religious fanatics engineering apocalyptic Third Temple prophecies to spark the End Times...

Atheist frauds and messianic doomsayers...that's some boogeyman
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Rapier108
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nortex97 said:

This guy is CIA and while he has served honorably (lost his wife etc) I think the political angle is unmistakable in that letter.

He'll be on all the leftwing media outlets as another token "Republican" to bash Trump.

Then he'll switch back to being a Democrat.
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Captain Ahab said:

Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war
Quote:


The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.

28 posts, Na no agenda here.
t_J_e_C_x
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Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.
nortex97
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Yes. Poor vetting by Trump's team, obviously.
TRM
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Kent has been all over the place supporting W, Ron Paul, and Bernie, but he's more Woke Right than anything now.
BMX Bandit
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.


you have to be a little more subtle when trolling. otherwise the fish are onto you and no bites.
Rapier108
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

Guess what, destroyed stuff can be rebuilt.

Your antisemitism is glaring for all to see. No surprise you love Fuentes.
Ellis Wyatt
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Quote:

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The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.


Knew that one of the anti-semites would be first to post a brand new thread on this -


A sock with 28 posts in 11 years. A drive by post with no actual info, at that.

Someone really wants us to know they are displeased.
Yukon Cornelius
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Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


I would agree if we knew that was true. Truth is zero evidence for that has ever been presented to the American people. Last year th cia disagreed with the idea Iran was weeks away. We launched those attacks based on Mossad intelligence not our own.

Until actual evidence is presented to the American people this has the feelings of Iraq 2.0. We invaded that nation based on lies. Now it may leave to be true that Iran was actually very close to nuclear weapons but we ultimately don't know. What we do know is that narrative has been pushed for 30 years now and we did this bit in Iraq already.
t_J_e_C_x
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Rapier108 said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

Guess what, destroyed stuff can be rebuilt.

Your antisemitism is glaring for all to see. No surprise you love Fuentes.


Its not antisemitic to call out foreign influence in our government. Get over yourself
Rockdoc
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Captain Ahab said:

Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war
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The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.

And once you found out you were wrong, it's too late. Way too late.
Rapier108
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Quote:

Quote:


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.


Knew that one of the anti-semites would be first to post a brand new thread on this -


A sock with 15 posts in 11 years. A drive by post with no actual info, at that.

Someone really wants us to know they are displeased.

Someone has a ton of these 10-20 year old sock accounts.

I've seen at least a dozen show up here, all with the same rhetoric. Anti-Trump, pro-Iran, anti-Israel, and usually blatant antisemitism.
Rapier108
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Rapier108 said:

t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

Analysis: If Trump said Iran's nuclear program was 'obliterated,' why is he looking to strike again? | CNN Politics https://share.google/fR8VBFms0AlzF1b6M

This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics. It's not about nuclear capabilities.

Guess what, destroyed stuff can be rebuilt.

Your antisemitism is glaring for all to see. No surprise you love Fuentes.


Its not antisemitic to call out foreign influence in our government. Get over yourself

No, but this is.

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This war is about the Jewish control over America. If you ever listen to Fuentes he's spot on about how they control American politics.

It is the same bull**** people were spewing in 1920s and 1930s Germany.
Ellis Wyatt
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t_J_e_C_x said:

Ellis Wyatt said:

This action is necessary to keep Iran from having nuclear weapons and being a worldwide menace more than they already are.

Sorry Hussein Obama's efforts to get them nukes have failed.


Didn't Trump already obliterate their nuke capabilities?

How many times are y'all going to regurgitate the talking point?

Iran's negotiators told our negotiators point blank what they had.
Old May Banker
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If you know that a nation is led by bad actors...
And you know that nation is not to be trusted....
And you know that nation will eventually have to be dealt with...
And you know that nation has killed hundreds of thousands and sponsored terrorism to do the same...
And you know that nation is a constant threat to develop nuclear weaponry...
And you know that nation uses proxies to attack you and your closest ally in the region....
And you know that your ally that was previously attacked has maybe the best intelligence in the world about the bad actors....
And you know that that intelligence has patiently waited to get all the leadership of the bad actors in one location..
And you know that your ally is going to "strike while the iron is hot..."

Then what exactly is there to wait for?
BQ78
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Israel had nothing to do with his wife's death. If anything her death should have motivated him to end terrorism in the middle east.
Yukon Cornelius
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There's a flip side to this coin geopolitically. We are essentially demonstrating the ultimate protection against US bombs is having nuclear weapons. Not saying I necessarily agree with that conclusion but it's a legitimate one being made. I can imagine with ai and other technological advancements nuclear weapon procurement will only becomes increasingly easy.

And there's the issue of current nuclear countries like the UK subcoming to Islam take over.

We really need a better geopolitical mechanism for dealing with nuclear adversaries vs bombing them. It's going to be important in the future.
No Spin Ag
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Captain Ahab said:

Top US counterterrorism official resigns over Iran war
Quote:


The Trump administration's top official on counterterrorism has resigned from his position, citing opposition to the war in Iran, and urged the president to "reverse course".
In a letter posted on X, National Counterterrorism Center Director Joe Kent said that Iran posed "no imminent threat" to the US and claimed that the Trump administration "started this war due to pressure from Israel" and its powerful American lobby.


The influence of foreign governments needs to be addressed.


Don't care.

MIGA.
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Lindsay Graham would feel right at home in this thread.
 
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