Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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NATO's essential and enduring purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of all its members. It does this through political and military means, ensuring the collective defence of all Allies, against all threats, from all directions.

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During the Cold War, NATO focused on collective defence and the protection of its members from potential threats emanating from the Soviet Union. With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise of non-state actors affecting international security, many new security threats have emerged, such as terrorism. Moreover, Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine including its illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 and its full-scale invasion in 2022 have radically altered the security environment.

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Keyno said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

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"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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Ahem. Our NATO allies have become eunuchs.

https://www.nato.int/en/what-we-do/introduction-to-nato/natos-purpose

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NATO's essential and enduring purpose is to safeguard the freedom and security of all its members. It does this through political and military means, ensuring the collective defence of all Allies, against all threats, from all directions.

...

During the Cold War, NATO focused on collective defence and the protection of its members from potential threats emanating from the Soviet Union. With the collapse of the Soviet Union and the rise of non-state actors affecting international security, many new security threats have emerged, such as terrorism. Moreover, Russia's war of aggression against Ukraine including its illegal annexation of Crimea in 2014 and its full-scale invasion in 2022 have radically altered the security environment.

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

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"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective

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You've had some dumb takes...

But, this is EPIC LEVEL dumb take...



WTF part of THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS do you not get?

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

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"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective

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You've had some dumb takes...

But, this is EPIC LEVEL dumb take...



WTF part of THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS do you not get?

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Again. Just trying to clarify if they were American citizens or dual "Israeli/American" citizens living in Israel. And the point is also moot. Iran did not do 10/7.

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Keyno said:

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We fixed the keg said:

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ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

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Membership in the NPT does not set limits on enrichment levels.

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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We fixed the keg said:

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ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

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Membership in the NPT does not set limits on enrichment levels.

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That's Iran's claim.

Enriching beyond commercial power and medical research is not a peaceful action. Any amount of taqiya does not absolve the Iranians.

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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Quote:

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The Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) does not explicitly grant a right to uranium enrichment; instead, it allows for the peaceful use of nuclear energy under strict conditions. While some countries interpret the NPT as providing a right to enrich uranium, this is contested, and the treaty primarily aims to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons.

Key Points on Enrichment

• Contested Interpretation: Some countries argue that the NPT implies a right to enrich uranium, while others, including the United States, contest this view.
• Safeguards and Compliance: Countries that engage in uranium enrichment must adhere to strict safeguards to ensure that their activities are not diverted to weapons development.
• International Oversight: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) plays a crucial role in monitoring compliance with the NPT and ensuring that enrichment activities are for peaceful purposes.

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

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"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective

---

You've had some dumb takes...

But, this is EPIC LEVEL dumb take...



WTF part of THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS do you not get?

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Again. Just trying to clarify if they were American citizens or dual "Israeli/American" citizens living in Israel. And the point is also moot. Iran did not do 10/7.

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ellis Wyatt said:

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They were Americans. Stop with the ridiculous Jew hating.

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"Hating"? I am trying to be specific. When someone says "Hamas killed Americans" of course everyone hates that. When you get specific and say "Hamas killed dual citizen Israeli/Americans living in Israel", that puts it into a slightly clearer perspective

---

You've had some dumb takes...

But, this is EPIC LEVEL dumb take...



WTF part of THEY WERE AMERICAN CITIZENS do you not get?

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Again. Just trying to clarify if they were American citizens or dual "Israeli/American" citizens living in Israel. And the point is also moot. Iran did not do 10/7.

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Iran Sponsored the October 7 Massacre. America Paid for It.
A chronicle of the Biden administration's increasingly absurd attempts to hide its complicity in the worst mass killing of Jews since the Holocaust
by
Tony Badran
December 13, 2023

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It may strike some observers as curious, and others as unimaginably evil, that only weeks after Hamas slaughtered over 1,200 Israelis on Oct. 7, the Biden administration awarded sanctions waivers worth $10 billion to Iran, the primary external sponsor of those attacks. The waiver, which allows Iran to collect money from the sale of electricity to Iraq, an arrangement that further deepens Iranian control of that country, came with an added bonus: Iran would be allowed to convert the funds into euros which it could spend immediately, without the usual requirement that the money remain in escrow inside Iraq. The prospect that Iran might immediately spend the money it receives on continuing to target U.S. bases in Iraq and Syria doesn't appear to have disrupted the deal, either.

Which is strange. In the informal but apparently binding relationship between the Biden administration and the Iranians, minor events like a horrific, large-scale terror assault on a close ally, the kidnapping of American children and burying them in underground tunnels, and the regular maiming and occasional killing of U.S. military personnel on American bases in the region can hardly be permitted to interfere with the goal of ensuring that billions of dollars reach Iran every month, in order to buttress the world's largest state sponsor of terrorism.

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In November, an Israeli news report claimed that the Iranians determined the date of the Oct. 7 attack. Initially, it said, the plan was for it to take place during Passover. However, the Iranians made the call to move the date closer to the anniversary of the Yom Kippur War. The information was obtained from interrogations of Hamas prisoners who took part in the attack, although the degree of its reliability is not yet clear. The author of the report speculated that the reason the Iranians pushed back the date had to do with then-ongoing hostage ransom negotiations with the Biden team, and the unfreezing of $6 billion to Iran as part of the deal.

What this speculation overlooks, however, is that, in the end, Iran greenlighting the attack did not in fact hinder further payments by the Biden administration. The same goes for Iranian-commanded attacks against U.S. bases and facilities in Iraq and Syria, which have only increased. By March 2023, there had been 83 attacks since the Biden team came to power. Since mid-October, there have been 82 attacks.

Team Biden's overriding concern since Oct. 8 has been to safeguard its arrangement with Iran, which means extending a protective umbrella to Tehran's Lebanese equity and working to pause the Israeli operation in Gazaan explicit Iranian demand. That the price of this arrangement has been paid in Israeli and American blood doesn't seem to bother the Biden administration one bit, even if the quantities of blood might have been a bit higher than expected.

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docb said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

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If you don't know what prompted the formation of NATO then I don't know what to tell you. It's one thing to have a rational debate, it's another to just spout out something stupid.

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

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docb said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

If you don't know what prompted the formation of NATO then I don't know what to tell you. It's one thing to have a rational debate, it's another to just spout out something stupid.

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

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I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

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Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The point of NATO was to check the Warsaw Pact, which dissolved in the early 90s.

Poland, a former Warsaw Pact country, is a part of NATO now and has been since 1999.

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

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Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

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WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

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Keyno said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The point of NATO was to check the Warsaw Pact, which dissolved in the early 90s.

Poland, a former Warsaw Pact country, is a part of NATO now and has been since 1999.

---

Cool thanks for the history lesson. Why are we mad that NATO isn't joining the US in their offensive war against Iran again??

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

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Keyno said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

---

flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The point of NATO was to check the Warsaw Pact, which dissolved in the early 90s.

Poland, a former Warsaw Pact country, is a part of NATO now and has been since 1999.

---

Cool thanks for the history lesson. Why are we mad that NATO isn't joining the US in their offensive war against Iran again??

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

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Quote:

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Soviet Union
Former country in Eurasia (19221991)
The Soviet Union, officially the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, was a transcontinental country that spanned much of Eurasia from 1922 until its dissolution in 1991. It was the world's third-most populous country, largest by area, and bordered twelve countries

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

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Try 'Soviet Union.'

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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BadMoonRisin said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

---

flown-the-coop said:

---

You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The point of NATO was to check the Warsaw Pact, which dissolved in the early 90s.

Poland, a former Warsaw Pact country, is a part of NATO now and has been since 1999.

---

Cool thanks for the history lesson. Why are we mad that NATO isn't joining the US in their offensive war against Iran again??

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You keep bringing NATO into the discussion. All we want is to eliminate the Iranian death cult but you keep deflecting to it's a forever war, NATO is a the best ally, 'Death to America' is not real, Iran is a good actor and is only enriching for sh*ts and giggles.

Nothing wrong with Trump denigrating a crappy 'ally'.

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

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Try 'Soviet Union.'

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OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

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I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

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Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

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WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

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Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

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You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

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Try 'Soviet Union.'

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OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

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It's world events and geography. Easy peezy.

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

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Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

---

Try 'Soviet Union.'

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OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

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It's world events and geography. Easy peezy.

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You can tell yourself that. To the rational it's pure stupidity.

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NATO was formed in 1949 as a collective defense alliance to counter the Soviet Union's post-World War II expansion and provide security for Western Europe. Its core purpose was to deter Soviet aggression, prevent European militarism, and encourage political integration among member states.

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

---

Try 'Soviet Union.'

---

OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

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It's world events and geography. Easy peezy.

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You can tell yourself that. To the rational it's pure stupidity. Do I remember Lavrov showing up for peace talks wearing a CCCP sweatshirt? Hmmm…..

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Quote:

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Russia is the largest and most prominent successor state of the former Soviet Union, which existed from 1922 until its dissolution in 1991. The Soviet Union comprised 15 republics, with Russia being the most significant both in size and influence.

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

---

Try 'Soviet Union.'

---

OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

---

It's world events and geography. Easy peezy.

---

You can tell yourself that. To the rational it's pure stupidity. Do I remember Lavrov showing up for peace talks wearing a CCCP sweatshirt? Hmmm…..

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And you think CCCP is Russia?

Quote:

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Russia is the largest and most prominent successor state of the former Soviet Union, which existed from 1922 until its dissolution in 1991. The Soviet Union comprised 15 republics, with Russia being the most significant both in size and influence.

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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docb said:

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bobbranco said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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Keyno said:

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Ag with kids said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

---

That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

---

Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

---

Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

---

No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

---

The ONLY time Article 5 of NATO has been invoked was after 9/11.

Are you saying that RUSSIA attacked the US?

---

I noticed you did not bold my "(historically)". Perhaps you wanted to leave that out.

NATO is a defensive alliance. So it tracks that after the US was actually attacked, Article 5 was invoked.

Edit: the validity of all of that was openly ridiculed by Trump in 2015

---

Yes it was invoked, but not to combat the Soviet Union. NATO was never formed to check Russia.

---

WTF are you talking about? Maybe you can do a quick internet search and I'll let you try again.

---

Try what again? Facts are clear. Article 5 was not invoked against 'Russia' or the 'Soviet Union'.

---

You said NATO was never formed to check Russia. I mean I gave you another chance and you struck out twice.

---

Try 'Soviet Union.'

---

OMG it's dumber than I thought. Strike 3.

---

It's world events and geography. Easy peezy.

---

You can tell yourself that. To the rational it's pure stupidity. Do I remember Lavrov showing up for peace talks wearing a CCCP sweatshirt? Hmmm…..

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And you think CCCP is Russia?

Quote:

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Russia is the largest and most prominent successor state of the former Soviet Union, which existed from 1922 until its dissolution in 1991. The Soviet Union comprised 15 republics, with Russia being the most significant both in size and influence.

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Dude your semantic argument is so stupid you should be embarrassed.

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