Very Nuremberg lawish

This is not about Iran given up Nuclear weapons, this is about taking Iranian oil business away from the SOH and bringing that business to the Gulf of America, Alaska, and Venezuela.

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Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

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I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.

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Sweet. Lets expand the scope of the war to include other targets.

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Thanks for delivering.

So your bold strategy would be to stop bombing ongoing threats because bombing the enemy is… bad?

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This is not about Iran given up Nuclear weapons, this is about taking Iranian oil business away from the SOH and bringing that business to the Gulf of America, Alaska, and Venezuela.

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It's also about ending the nuclear threat, them lobbing ever longer, more powerful rockets at their neighbors and our allies (and eventually us), and their funding of proxy terrorist groups who attack us and our friends.

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Keyno said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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Keyno said:

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Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

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I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.

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Sweet. Lets expand the scope of the war to include other targets.

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Thanks for delivering.

So your bold strategy would be to stop bombing ongoing threats because bombing the enemy is… bad?

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What? There are levels to strawmaning arguments and then there is flown-the-coop

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Former Biden NSA Jake Sullivan:

"If America insists on the position that Iran should completely and permanently give up the right and ability to enrich uranium, basically no agreement will be formed."

Sullivan added that from Iran's perspective, such a condition means… pic.twitter.com/vC5ob8pivn

— Open Source Intel (@Osint613) April 26, 2026

Further clarifying what our position should be (180 degrees the opposite of Jake Sullivan, as usual).

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Democrats: "The Obama deal was working and keeping Iran from developing nuclear weapons."

Also Democrats: "If you insist on Iran not developing Nuclear Weapons no deal can be made with them."

Its amazing people keep falling for this bull *****

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Keyno said:

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Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

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I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.

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Sweet. Lets expand the scope of the war to include other targets.

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Thanks for delivering.

So your bold strategy would be to stop bombing ongoing threats because bombing the enemy is… bad?

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What? There are levels to strawmaning arguments and then there is flown-the-coop

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Impossible. You have longed used up all the hay constructing yours, then hiding under remaining stacks when someone asks you to explain your position.

Remember about the "Death to America" meaning? You no longer seem to want to back up your (false) claim.

Now you have moved on to discussing why killing dual citizenship who live in Israel is not as big of a deal as killing a native born dual citizen who happens to be visiting and that we shouldn't involve ourselves in avenging American deaths if the person has dual citizenship with Israel.

Just trying to keep it all straight.

He only says what Obama and Soros tell him to say. Been that way for a long time. A true traitor. He should be hanged on the mall as an example to other traitors.

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Keyno said:

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Uh, you want America to strike Hamas now? Almost 3 years later?

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I am fine striking Hamas, Hezbollahs, Huthis, mullahs, ayatollahs and cross-eyed camels if they hate American and keep trying to kill us.

But you do you.

I did notice you magically moved on from the "Death to America doesn't really mean it lie" and are now on to dismissing the 46 Americans killed because they had dual citizenship.

Kind of looking forward to the next impossibly bad take.

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Sweet. Lets expand the scope of the war to include other targets.

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Thanks for delivering.

So your bold strategy would be to stop bombing ongoing threats because bombing the enemy is… bad?

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What? There are levels to strawmaning arguments and then there is flown-the-coop

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Impossible. You have longed used up all the hay constructing yours, then hiding under remaining stacks when someone asks you to explain your position.

Remember about the "Death to America" meaning? You no longer seem to want to back up your (false) claim.

Now you have moved on to discussing why killing dual citizenship who live in Israel is not as big of a deal as killing a native born dual citizen who happens to be visiting and that we shouldn't involve ourselves in avenging American deaths if the person has dual citizenship with Israel.

Just trying to keep it all straight.

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I have explained the "death to America" phrase numerous times. No, it does not mean Iran is trying to nuke America. No, it is not the "motto of Iran" as you previously claimed.

I never said those deaths were "not a big" deal (another lie strawman from you). I was just trying to clarify the facts. Unfortunately, Hamas is not Iran. So the entire argument you are trying to make tanks right there. Unless your new argument is we should expand the war to attack Hamas? I think you agreed with that earlier but it may have been another poster.

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This is not about Iran given up Nuclear weapons, this is about taking Iranian oil business away from the SOH and bringing that business to the Gulf of America, Alaska, and Venezuela.

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It's also about ending the nuclear threat, them lobbing ever longer, more powerful rockets at their neighbors and our allies (and eventually us), and their funding of proxy terrorist groups who attack us and our friends.

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Persians and Jews have a long history, older than any country in Europe. They will continue to fight until God stops it, not Donald a John Trump.

Once the new oil trade routes are established, Trump will declare victory and bring the navy home, with or without a sighed peace deal.

Every few years, Iran targets will be bombed by USA and Israel but the issues with Iran will never be solved by us.

A glaring example, Why is Japan even getting its oil from Iran when Alaska is much closer, makes no sense and Trump knows this.

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We just have to agree to disagree my thoughts those 45 Americans hold allegiance to Israel and that makes them Israeli. I know you think they would put America over anything but they wouldn't. I wish I didn't think like this but these people rightfully so are Israel first. It doesn't matter if it's Jonathan Pollard Mark Levin Zalman Shapiro or even Epstein I don't care what the passport says we know who they put first.

If my family was put in concentration camps and done the way they were I would be the same way. I admire it actually I would admire it more if my country wasn't the one being exploited for it.

Just look our top negotiator used to let Bibi use his bed. If someone called Xi uncle he would ever see anything with a classified mark on it. I guess I just don't understand how you can't see any bias in letting someone like Kushner be involved in this.

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Wow.

Let's also ignore Wirkoff being in the room, Trump and his cabinet reviewing any and all deal terms, and the fact that the terms will be public knowledge. But Bibi stayed he night long ago at the mansion of prominent and wealthy American, who happens to be Jewish.

Wow.

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So how would I even know that it seemed to be pretty important to Jared right? A mansion why was Jared giving up his bed if they lived in a mansion? So probably was a mansion he probably didn't give up his bed like he said. So he thought Bibi so important that he mentioned he had to sleep in the basement for him. Even called him uncle a affectionate term. So what your saying is rich jews offer home to powerful jews when they travel nothing more? I'm sure Jared turns off his uncle Bibi switch when he represents the American citizens.

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This is not about Iran given up Nuclear weapons

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Iraq was about "Saddam has WMDs."

Iran is about "can't let them ever have WMDs".

Trump isn't even trying the make the imminent nuke threat claim anymore. He is now just repeating "Iran can never have nukes".

The only way Trump loyalists would consider Operation AIPAC Fury a failure is if Iran built a nuke before Trump pulls out. Any other outcome will be spun as a success and salvation from "nuclear holocaust".

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This is not about Iran given up Nuclear weapons

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Iraq was about "Saddam has WMDs."

Iran is about "can't let them ever have WMDs".

Trump isn't even trying the make the imminent nuke threat claim anymore. He is now just repeating "Iran can never have nukes".

The only way Trump loyalists would consider Operation AIPAC Fury a failure is if Iran built a nuke before Trump pulls out. Any other outcome will be spun as a success and salvation from "nuclear holocaust".

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Operation AIPAC Fury. I like that one. Have not heard it before. I will be using it in the future

Obama gave back Iran cash plus interest, a few billion.

Trump has spent over a $100B of taxpayer funds already, asking for more, and will likely ultimately lift sanctions on Iran worth 100s of billions for their own economy. In the end this legendary negotiation will be referred to as "The Shart of the Deal".

Wait, so a former NSA thinks we should just let Iran keep on enriching Uranium because they don't want to stop? How TF does someone this daft hold a position anywhere near National Security decisions?

How about "no"? We have a cease fire in place for as long as it takes Iran to do what we want, or we we lift it and hit more targets until they do.

The "Persian" empire(s) ceased about 1500 years ago. It's a common mistake that people attribute today's Iran following the Muslims conquering in 651 to the historic Persian empire.

First the Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus the Great was one of culture and while not overly peaceful they had a tendency to assimilate the acquired cultures into their own including religious practices. This persisted through the following empires / periods and the territory ebbed and flowed.

When the Muslims arrived, as was their custom, they destroyed all other idols, relics, artwork, books, teachings, history and replaced it with their teachings of Islam.

So today's Iran cannot claim Persian outside of a bit of language and genetic makeup. The culture, society is all Islam (predominantly before 1979, exclusively since).

Israel and the Jewish folk have a problem with Farsi's speaking Shia Muslims occupying the territory generally referred to as Iran. The Shia Muslims have a problem with Israel because they consider all non-Muslims as trash to be eliminated based on historical conflict and their perceived occupation of "their Holy Land", which is odd since the Jews claimed it first.

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Obama gave back Iran cash plus interest, a few billion.

Trump has spent over a $100B of taxpayer funds already, asking for more, and will likely ultimately lift sanctions on Iran worth 100s of billions for their own economy. In the end this legendary negotiation will be referred to as "The Shart of the Deal".

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Whats a few hundred billion when we are dealing with a comic book level of evil which is the "death cult of Iran who is minutes away from a nuke and also wants to nuke the world"?

I say lets spend another few trillion to stop that (Iraq War)

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Wait, so a former NSA thinks we should just let Iran keep on enriching Uranium because they don't want to stop? How TF does someone this daft hold a position anywhere near National Security decisions?

How about "no"? We have a cease fire in place for as long as it takes Iran to do what we want, or we we lift it and hit more targets until they do.

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Despite the war and despite everything that has happened (Israel/US bombing Iran), Iran is STILL a signatory of the NPT. Being in the NPT ALLOWS the right to enrich urianium.

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We fixed the keg said:

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Wait, so a former NSA thinks we should just let Iran keep on enriching Uranium because they don't want to stop? How TF does someone this daft hold a position anywhere near National Security decisions?

How about "no"? We have a cease fire in place for as long as it takes Iran to do what we want, or we we lift it and hit more targets until they do.

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Despite the war and despite everything that has happened (Israel/US bombing Iran), Iran is STILL a signatory of the NPT. Being in the NPT ALLOWS the right to enrich urianium.

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And any rights that Iran thought they earned by signing the NPT have been revoked. Truly sad times for Iran.

The world and Iran's neighbors are thankful.

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Iran's nuclear program has generated widespread concern that Tehran is pursuing nuclear weapons. Tehran's construction of gas centrifuge uranium enrichment facilities has been the main source of proliferation concern. Gas centrifuges enrich uranium by spinning uranium hexafluoride gas at high speeds to increase the concentration of the uranium-235 isotope. Such centrifuges can produce both low-enriched uranium (LEU), which can be used in nuclear power reactors, and highly enriched uranium (HEU), which is one of the two types of fissile material used in nuclear weapons. Individual centrifuges are linked together in cascades for producing enriched uranium in quantity. HEU can also be used as fuel in certain types of nuclear reactors. Iran also has a uranium conversion facility, which converts uranium ore concentrate into several chemical compounds, including uranium hexafluoride. Tehran's stated goal is to produce LEU for the government's current and future power reactors. Iran is producing enriched uranium in commercial and pilot enrichment facilities at Natanz, as well as Iran's Fordow enrichment facility.

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https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R40094

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We fixed the keg said:

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Wait, so a former NSA thinks we should just let Iran keep on enriching Uranium because they don't want to stop? How TF does someone this daft hold a position anywhere near National Security decisions?

How about "no"? We have a cease fire in place for as long as it takes Iran to do what we want, or we we lift it and hit more targets until they do.

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Despite the war and despite everything that has happened (Israel/US bombing Iran), Iran is STILL a signatory of the NPT. Being in the NPT ALLOWS the right to enrich urianium.

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And any rights that Iran thought they earned by signing the NPT have been revoked. Truly sad times for Iran.

The world and Iran's neighbors are thankful.

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Iran's nuclear program has generated widespread concern that Tehran is pursuing nuclear weapons. Tehran's construction of gas centrifuge uranium enrichment facilities has been the main source of proliferation concern. Gas centrifuges enrich uranium by spinning uranium hexafluoride gas at high speeds to increase the concentration of the uranium-235 isotope. Such centrifuges can produce both low-enriched uranium (LEU), which can be used in nuclear power reactors, and highly enriched uranium (HEU), which is one of the two types of fissile material used in nuclear weapons. Individual centrifuges are linked together in cascades for producing enriched uranium in quantity. HEU can also be used as fuel in certain types of nuclear reactors. Iran also has a uranium conversion facility, which converts uranium ore concentrate into several chemical compounds, including uranium hexafluoride. Tehran's stated goal is to produce LEU for the government's current and future power reactors. Iran is producing enriched uranium in commercial and pilot enrichment facilities at Natanz, as well as Iran's Fordow enrichment facility.

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LMFAO ok. Nothing you posted refuted anything I said. Iran is still a member of the NPT which ALLOWS enrichment.

As a side comment: I am very much aware of what the US government says. In the future, if you are going to try and unsuccessfully refute me using a literal US state government link, know that it is not going to work.

ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

Look forward to moving on to the next bad take since you hit back with facts.

So far this afternoon we have regurgitated falsities regarding "Death to America", determine that those with dual citizenship are only loyal to Israel and this count less as Americans regarding how we protect them or avenge their harm, and now its they are signatories to the NPT and are allowed to enrich!! Then ignore information because the US government cannot be trusted, but Ayatollah fatwas are super serious and must be trusted, taken for their word.

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The "Persian" empire(s) ceased about 1500 years ago. It's a common mistake that people attribute today's Iran following the Muslims conquering in 651 to the historic Persian empire.

First the Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus the Great was one of culture and while not overly peaceful they had a tendency to assimilate the acquired cultures into their own including religious practices. This persisted through the following empires / periods and the territory ebbed and flowed.

When the Muslims arrived, as was their custom, they destroyed all other idols, relics, artwork, books, teachings, history and replaced it with their teachings of Islam.

So today's Iran cannot claim Persian outside of a bit of language and genetic makeup. The culture, society is all Islam (predominantly before 1979, exclusively since).

Israel and the Jewish folk have a problem with Farsi's speaking Shia Muslims occupying the territory generally referred to as Iran. The Shia Muslims have a problem with Israel because they consider all non-Muslims as trash to be eliminated based on historical conflict and their perceived occupation of "their Holy Land", which is odd since the Jews claimed it first.

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And all of em from the loins of Abraham. This is a everlasting family feud, no earthly solution can solve this bad blood.

Trump knows this and you probably do too.

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The "Persian" empire(s) ceased about 1500 years ago. It's a common mistake that people attribute today's Iran following the Muslims conquering in 651 to the historic Persian empire.

First the Achaemenid Empire founded by Cyrus the Great was one of culture and while not overly peaceful they had a tendency to assimilate the acquired cultures into their own including religious practices. This persisted through the following empires / periods and the territory ebbed and flowed.

When the Muslims arrived, as was their custom, they destroyed all other idols, relics, artwork, books, teachings, history and replaced it with their teachings of Islam.

So today's Iran cannot claim Persian outside of a bit of language and genetic makeup. The culture, society is all Islam (predominantly before 1979, exclusively since).

Israel and the Jewish folk have a problem with Farsi's speaking Shia Muslims occupying the territory generally referred to as Iran. The Shia Muslims have a problem with Israel because they consider all non-Muslims as trash to be eliminated based on historical conflict and their perceived occupation of "their Holy Land", which is odd since the Jews claimed it first.

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And all of em from the loins of Abraham. This is a everlasting family feud, no earthly solution can solve this bad blood.

Trump knows this and you probably do too.

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Unfortunately I do. I would think even a peace from the Abraham Accords will always be tenuous. There have been times of relative peace amongst those but not lasting. Recently watched Great Courses on the Persian Empire and then the Knights Templar. Previously watched courses on Mongolia, Genghis, Central Asia, Islam, etc.

It's almost impossible for anyone without a keen interest, time or a dedicated profession in the subject to learn and sort all the history.

I will make no claim to understand it all and continue to learn. But it is well-complicated and long-standing.

These religious conflicts extend into Russian Eastern Orthodoxy and it being intertwined with the history of the Rus people - themselves descendant from other warring tribes with various religious practices.

One could point to the Chinese, but that will show you that over 4,000 years they have experimented with various forms of government, society and religion and tend to move between them overtime, but staying relatively confined to the same area for modern history. The conflicts being maintained within what is traditionally just called China, but if you went into detail it's a series of fractious empires conquering each other just like the Occidental world.

Interestingly enough, the rise of the Incas employed some of the same tactics of the early Persians in adopting the religious practices of the conquered peoples as a means of subjugation and control.

If you want to be even more clever, the Spanish and their Catholic Conquistasdorism is nothing more than another crusade.

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ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

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Almost weapon grade Uranium has always been a bargaining chip for them. Its value has now exceeded the IRGC's wildest dreams. Millions of Americans have been gaslit to believe its an imminent threat to western civilization, and its also Trump's off ramp to claim total victory. In exchange, Iran will get lifted sanctions worth 100s of billions, but technically "no money changing hands".

Iran is praying to Allah that they are able salvage enough of this worthless American magic fairy dust, so they can cash in big.

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ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

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Almost weapon grade Uranium has always been a bargaining chip for them. Its value has now exceeded the IRGC's wildest dreams. Millions of Americans have been gaslit to believe its an imminent threat to western civilization, and its also Trump's off ramp to claim total victory. In exchange, Iran will get lifted sanctions worth 100s of billions, but technically "no money changing hands".

Iran is praying to Allah that they are able salvage enough of this worthless American magic fairy dust, so they can cash in big.

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Yeah the country that had 100 million dollars of weapons grade Uncle Sam ass kicking just dropped on it, plus whatever Isreal did, is really coming out awesome right now.

Great take.

I never said "Iran is coming out awesome right now". I said the 60% Uranium is a bargaining chip. Its pretty undeniable at this point. The only question is if the IRGC is able to hand it over, and what Trump will give them for it.

They need to worry about what Trump will give them if they don't turn over the enriched Uranium

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Per Mark Levin, Trump is "the first Jewish POTUS". Per Trump himself, he wants to "make Israel stronger and bigger". So Trump bombing Iran was clearly a selfless act of bravery. It wasn't about him personally trying to gain something. It was Trump coming thru for his people. He is putting others before himself.

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Motto of Iran: "Death to America"

But Trump obviously only did this for BiBi and the Jews.

Makes absolute sense. Sorry I was here believing Trump was trying to prevent my grandchildren from being vaporized by the Ayatollah(s).

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Please calm down

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Ummm...

Iran has been saying DEATH TO AMERICA for 47 years.

Just because you didn't listen to them doesn't mean they did intend for it to happen...

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I have addressed this I do not know how many times. It does not mean what you think it means. It does not mean Iran wants to nuke America. It certainly is not the "motto of Iran" as flown-the-coop claimed

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Yeah, all the terrorist attacks over the past 47 years that have killed over 1000 Americans don't mean anything like that...

PLEASE...

Tell us what "DEATH TO AMERICA" means. Since apparently, you know a different definition...

I think we're all wondering what they REALLY meant...


Hint: Getting a nuke to blow up America wasn't one of their policies for the first 20+ years...

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

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Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

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Americans...

WTF does it matter if they were dual citizenship?


Oh...wait...

We ALL know why it matters to you...

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Wow, did Milton sell you a jump to false conclusions mat? Israel is an ally, no? When you proclaim death to us and our allies, then methodically target, kidnap, rape, terrorize, maim and more… for decades, I do find it justifiable for us to defend ourselves and our ally.

Way too many folks today want to go back to the Hitler days and pretend they were just sending Jews off to the Promised Land for a quick shower and change of attire.

We attacked Iran because they were a threat to US, as in the US of A.

Of you want to pretend Iran is a peaceful nation, that October 7th never happened, that somehow killing Soleimani evened the score and that was the end of it, then congrats on the Nevil Chamberlain approach to geopolitics.

That's not for me.

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Well, that IS the whole point of NATO, right?

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No, the point of NATO is to check Russia (historically). It is not a standby army for the the United States Forever War in the middle east.

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ROFLMAO, the NPT? 3-5% (LEU) for commercial power and up to 20% (HALEU) for medical research. 60% and higher?

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Membership in the NPT does not set limits on enrichment levels.

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Keyno said:

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Haleyscomet50 said:

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flown-the-coop said:

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

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Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

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Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

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Just trying to clarify the claim that Hamas killed 45 Americans on 10/7. That's very provocative and outrageous.

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They were Americans.

I wasn't born in America.

I was a US citizen the second I was born.

I didn't LIVE in America until I was 10.

My parents were both US citizens born and raised in the US..



I hope that's not too provocative and outrageous for you...

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You have parroted the falsehood far too many times.

At least admit your "source" is the dead ayatollah and it's from a speech about a decade or so ago. Can you ad least confirm that?

This is not indifferent than the no nuke nonbinding fatwa that their 60% uranium is for most peaceful just leave us alone - nevermind our support of proxy terror groups, or kidnapping and killing of Americans, Israelis and other westerners, and our lobbing of missiles at our friends and foes alike because we didn't get our way and have hurt feelz.

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That's alot of the problem US vs Iran was made even when Trump smoked Soleimani. Iran killed hundreds probably thousands in Iraq Trump evened the score when he took out the guy in charge of that. It was over then but your equating Israeli death with American we have no obligation to kill for Israel. We give them enough to take care of things themselves without our blood.

I'm impressed though finally someone admits that if you attack Israel you attack us. I don't agree with that but I appreciate your honesty.

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Let's ignore a fact. The 10/7 attack by Hamas (Iran) killed 45 Americans.

And yes Israel is an ally.

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Wait. Americans? Or dual citizenship "Israeli/Americans" living in Israel?

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Many dual citizens were BORN in the United States. What is the distinction you are attempting here?

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Just trying to clarify the claim that Hamas killed 45 Americans on 10/7. That's very provocative and outrageous.

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They were Americans.

I wasn't born in America.

I was a US citizen the second I was born.

I didn't LIVE in America until I was 10.

My parents were both US citizens born and raised in the US..



I hope that's not too provocative and outrageous for you...

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So you were born on a US base somewhere? IDK I don't really care for riddles.

My comment was not concerning you whatsoever.