DeschutesAg said:
aggiehawg said:
aTm FAN said:
Trump is a compulsive liar.
He wasn't lying about the 2020 election.
Actually he was lying. It is a bit sad to see how many gullible people allowed themselves to be duped back in 2020-21 and still remain stuck deep down the "stolen election" rabbit hole five years later. When he becomes eligible, Trump is a shoo-in for unanimous confirmation and immediate induction into the Con Man Hall of Fame as a legend. He will have a statue in a place of honor, and his plaque will be featured alongside other con-man greats P.T. Barnum, Bernie Madoff, Huey Long, Jay Gould, the Towers Financial duo, and Charles Ponzi.
This is hogwash.
If Twitter and Facebook wouldn't have been owned by the CIA and FBI in 2020, I think that the rhetoric about this event is different in 2026.
Here are some facts. Let me know which of these you dispute:
1) The states that were running the elections in Georgia, Arizona, Philadelphia, and Detroit all had numerous instances where the election officials failed to follow the legal protocols on how to count the votes. For example, the 400,000 votes that were counted when the tabulator tapes were supposed to be signed by one person, and witnessed by two other people, were just completely ignored. This wasn't a clerical error. This was fraud. It is probably why the Fulton County election chief was fired.
2) The circumventing of election laws that are in place to prevent fraud are a real problem, with or without the proof that the election would have went for Trump without them.
3) If you purposefully circumvent election laws that are in place to prevent fraud, any claim that no fraud has been proven rings extremely hollow. Only Hillary Clinton and Dem election officials can purposefully destroy evidence of a crime and claim that they are innocent with a straight face. And, as Norm McDonald told us time and time again, Hillary lies.
4) The four cities mentioned above received about $200 million in funding from Mark Zuckerberg in training on how to do mail-in ballots through his various PACs. This is the same Facebook that was in bed with the FBI to combat "election fraud misinformation".
5) These counties all stopped counting votes simultaneously on election night. When they started back up, Biden had thousands upon thousands of votes suddenly show up out of nowhere. All 100% for Biden. We have video evidence to back that up.
6) Plenty of additional smoke, like the claim that the Fulton county bunch stopped counting due to a water leak, which in turn was actually just a leaky toilet. Videos of briefcases being pulled out from under tables as soon as the GOP poll watchers were told to go home. None of this was made up, it was all just waived away as circumstance.
7) Any claims that the courts did their job is farcical on its face. Very few cases actually looked at evidence. The judiciary were all cowards due to COVID. Everything got dismissed on a technicality with the exception of a few cases. Those cases revealed facts that are very disturbing.
The Trump administration did a bad job by putting Rudy and Kraken lady in charge of fighting this, but that doesn't mean that there is no "there" there. The above list is so much smoke that it is literally incredible to believe that there was not a fire.
Which of the above do you dispute? If you line all of the facts up, that is a very, very suspect list of coincidences, in my opinion. It doesn't take someone that is paranoid to conclude that there was fraud. In fact, in 2026, more Americans believe that the 2020 election was impacted significantly by fraud than those who do not, according to pollsters like Pew Research.
