So if it is 100% confirmed that the commie libs stole the 2020 election, what do you think WOULD and/or SHOULD happens?

If the price isn't paid by the right people, we might as well quit the country now.

Punish them. Death if possible. Legal scholars can speculate better but there has to be some form of sedition

Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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Good luck with that.

Nothing. Will. Happen.

I would, Clockwork Orange style, make that old hag Pocahontas - who throws out that question to every R she questions - watch the proof over and over again.

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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The Democrats have been stealing or attempting to steal elections since 1860 (or before).

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TheCurl84 said:

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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Good luck with that.

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Republicans typically play marbles on a Jai Alai court.

I won't hold my breath on them doing anything worthwhile.

I am sure polling would say differently, but the problem as I see it is that half the country has no issue with cheating so long as it is their side that wins. The ends justify the means.

Even if we could show without a doubt and without error that the most egregious crime has been committed, but it was done in order to advance the left agenda, half the country would not care. For example, if tomorrow a coup was successful and Trump and his entire network was ousted, thrown in jail, along with half of Congress, you would still have half the country cheering. They cannot grapple with their own hypocrisy because they "won."

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So if it is 100% confirmed that the commie libs stole the 2020 election, what do you think WOULD and/or SHOULD happens?

If the price isn't paid by the right people, we might as well quit the country now.

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100% confirmed to whom? The media will spin any evidence.

If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.

it doesn't need to even show that the election was stolen. Show that Fulton county was rigged and GA was impacted by fraud. Just need proof of one jurisdiction to back up the claim. The left and media's defense has always been "what proof". So you just need one county. Even at that they'll make the claim that it wouldn't have affected the election but what about the Senate seats in that state?

Still, I think the Dems and media have been largely effective in making this a non-issue for so many people that even if hit with massive proof, they wouldn't believe it.

We should do the same thing regardless if anything is ever proven: Pass the SAVE act

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I would, Clockwork Orange style, make that old hag Pocahontas - who throws out that question to every R she questions - watch the proof over and over again.

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If there is no confidence in our elections and no transparency.... it is only a matter of time until we get a revolution.

Emperor Barron Trump has a nice ring to it.

1. Raid Georgia election infrastructure
2. Announce that it has been proven that the election was stolen
3. Announce federal takeover of all election apparatus in the country
4. Hold elections
5. Announce massive wins for GOP in elections

Profit.

Absolutely nothing

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So if it is 100% confirmed that the commie libs stole the 2020 election, what do you think WOULD and/or SHOULD happens?

If the price isn't paid by the right people, we might as well quit the country now.

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If there was some actual Release the Kraken moment then there should be a massive overhaul of the entire electoral process and some historical disqualification of the Biden presidency. We should treat it as one of the gravest violations of our Citizen's constitutional rights ever to occur. Both side of the aisle should stand up and make sure it never happens again.

But we all know that stolen election hypothesis was just a coping fever dream for twitchy, Trump loving paranoiacs and the endless efforts to manufacture a case were both highly amusing and very pathetic at the same time so don't hold your breath.

After the 2004 election and because of the Diebold DREs were used, Kerry promptly discovered there was no way to get an auditable recount. Everything was digital only, thus subject to human manipulation. That election was enough to ultimately result in Diebold falling out of favor and being taken over by ES&S, who was then subsequently ordered by the Holder Justice Department to divest that business to newly created American Dominion.

At a minimum, all electronic voting systems should have strict scrutiny and oversight. Not by the limp wristed EAC and CISA. No proprietary source codes.

There is also something that I think should be considered and that is the widespread use of COTS, ostensibly to hold down costs. Both those components are well known and their vulnerabilities.

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TheCurl84 said:

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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Good luck with that.

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So lets do nothing. That'll show 'em.

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1. Raid Georgia election infrastructure
2. Announce that it has been proven that the election was stolen
3. Announce federal takeover of all election apparatus in the country
4. Hold elections
5. Announce massive wins for GOP in elections

Profit.

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Or we could let in a zillion illegals during a pandemic to change the nation's demographic in a way that supports our party. Who care if some natives are murdered, who cares if it accelerates demand on already stressed medical care. And lets give it to them for free while citizens pay through the nose.

Oh wait the Dems already did this. And nobody profited but the illegals, and the nations that got to empty their prisons at our expense.

Never suggested we do nothing. I just get amused whenever anyone puts their faith in the Republicans showing any kind of spine. The effort definitely needs to be made, but if I am a betting man, I'd put all my money on the 2020 election scam players all dying of old age before seeing anyone of significance jailed.

2020 election was 100% stolen. The lemmings already chose the mask, jab, & cliff as the legion planned.

President Trump won with a second miracle, only a reprieve from corrupt elections. Waiting to see a mass of drowning swine signaling end of this oppression.

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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Good luck with that.

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Republicans typically play marbles on a Jai Alai court.

I won't hold my breath on them doing anything worthwhile.

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I just have images in my head of someone doing this really, really well and their opponent slipping on glass spheres on the court and breaking their neck.

But, I 100% agree with the sentiment.

I thought it was already confirmed.

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So if it is 100% confirmed that the commie libs stole the 2020 election, what do you think WOULD and/or SHOULD happens?

If the price isn't paid by the right people, we might as well quit the country now.

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Sadly I do not think that "The Right People", the ones who planned and funded the Steal, will ever see any punishment.

But, we could send a lot of the lower tier players to prison. The ones that passed the same ballots through the counting machines numerous times, carried boxes of phony ballots into the counting rooms at 3AM, etc. They should all be identified and handed long prison sentences. Pass out 10-20 years like it is candy to hundreds of them.

Make it really hard to find any more people willing to take the chance going forward.

it's 100% confirmed that Hunter Biden's laptop was real.

it's 100% confirmed that the laptop contained stone cold hard proof that Joe Biden was corrupt asF. Proof that he was involved with, intimately familiar with, and even the leader of, ex-lobbyist/then admitted parmesan smoking crackhead Hunter's multimillion dollar deals in Romania, Ukraine, Russia, Kazakhstan, China, Saudi Arabia, etc. while daddy was senator and VP. Deals in which Hunter could provide no services or sell no wares, other than favors from and access to the US government.

it's 100% confirmed that, right before the election, the social media platform monopolies led by Mark Zuckerberg and Jack Dorsey, at the behest of DNC and bureaucrats, censored and banned all reporting on the laptop. This included censoring and banning the account of the nation's longest running news publication, one founded by Alexander Hamilton. 1st amendment - free press - anyone? Covering up Biden's public corruption = Interference anyone?

it's 100% confirmed that Biden's campaign wrote a letter and got 51 current and former members of the intelligence community to sign off indicating that the proof of Joe's obvious corruption was "russian disinformation" and got all of MSM and tech platform monopolies to perform felatio on that letter and cram it down the throats of the American public leading up to the election. Interference?

it's 100% confirmed that the pandemic was used as an excuse to change or circumvent election law and procedures in certain states and that mass-mailed elections have few controls and cannot be audited. it's 100% confirmed that Zuckerberg and other socialist elites donated nearly half a billion dollars to NGOs like the "center for civic life", who work in densely populated lower income areas to train people how to harvest mass-mailed ballots for the election.



Joe Biden was a decrpid senile old man, not really campaigning, his campaign putting a lid on him daily, and when he did have a campaign "rally", no one would show up to it. He had a campaign "rally" in Philadelphia, just 30 minutes from his hometown in Wilmington DE, where only a few dozen people showed up and listened to Joe yell and scream about NOT opening up the economy or schools until the virus was eradicated or until we got more "plexiglass" to combat the virus....

I will go to my grave not believing there was any possible way over 81 million legal eligible voters consciously voted for that man - shattering popular vote records of Messiah Obama - making corrupt old senile unaccomplished richardhead, by far, the most popular politician our nation has ever known.


We have secret ballots that must be protected. But we still need a system with accountability, controls, and auditability. That election was 100% fd up six ways from Sunday and everyone with a brain knows it.

That being said, can't go back. Nothing will happen to anyone involved.

Need election integrity laws like voter ID passed everywhere possible. Will never happen in captured states like California or Illinois though.

What do you mean "What if?" Time Magazine wrote a long form piece admitting it was stolen.

Republicans are toothless and don't/won't do anything.

People who continue to vote R and expect different outcomes are worse sheep than the average D voter.

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Republicans are toothless and don't/won't do anything.

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won't disagree with this, but

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People who continue to vote R and expect different outcomes are worse sheep than the average D voter.

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^what's your proposal instead? What do you suggest to all anti-communists / anti-socialists do in this two party system?

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I would, Clockwork Orange style, make that old hag Pocahontas - who throws out that question to every R she questions - watch the proof over and over again.

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This is the method necessary to get people to stop watching the Legacy Media. Hold their eyes open while Newsmax is blaring on the TV. I'm pretty sure many would have nervous breakdowns if exposed to the truth for too long.

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What do you mean "What if?" Time Magazine wrote a long form piece admitting it was stolen.

Republicans are toothless and don't/won't do anything.

People who continue to vote R and expect different outcomes are worse sheep than the average D voter.

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I don't vote R because I expect a 'different' outcome.

I vote R to stave off D madness.

But I am increasingly black pilled on the entire American Experiment. There is no consistent rule of law or any meaningful standards. The GOP must learn to actually fight and use power.... or we are doomed in the short term. But long term..... I still think we are going to reset to traditionalism and more Christian society and government.... its just a matter of how we get there. It may not be within the current system.

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What do you mean "What if?" Time Magazine wrote a long form piece admitting it was stolen.

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If it is the same article I am thinking of . . . .it did not say the election was stolen. It did point out how many disparate groups had to rise up to oppose Trump's attempts to subvert the electoral process.

If it is another article, can you share?

https://time.com/5936036/secret-2020-election-campaign/

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Trump and his allies were running their own campaign to spoil the election. The President spent months insisting that mail ballots were a Democratic plot and the election would be "rigged." His henchmen at the state level sought to block their use, while his lawyers brought dozens of spurious suits to make it more difficult to votean intensification of the GOP's legacy of suppressive tactics. Before the election, Trump plotted to block a legitimate vote count. And he spent the months following Nov. 3 trying to steal the election he'd lostwith lawsuits and conspiracy theories, pressure on state and local officials, and finally summoning his army of supporters to the Jan. 6 rally that ended in deadly violence at the Capitol.

This is the inside story of the conspiracy to save the 2020 election, based on access to the group's inner workings, never-before-seen documents and interviews with dozens of those involved from across the political spectrum. It is the story of an unprecedented, creative and determined campaign whose success also reveals how close the nation came to disaster. "Every attempt to interfere with the proper outcome of the election was defeated," says Ian Bassin, co-founder of Protect Democracy, a nonpartisan rule-of-law advocacy group. "But it's massively important for the country to understand that it didn't happen accidentally. The system didn't work magically. Democracy is not self-executing."

That's why the participants want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dreama well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information. They were not rigging the election; they were fortifying it. And they believe the public needs to understand the system's fragility in order to ensure that democracy in America endures.

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Yes, its 100% confirmed for those with eyes and a working brain.

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TheCurl84 said:

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Nothing will happen in terms of punishing people. However, if the GOP is on the ball, they will use the evidence to push forward election reforms that make such cheating much harder, if not impossible, in the future.

If the evidence is effectively communicated to the American people, then most will support reforms.

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The Democrats have been stealing or attempting to steal elections since 1860 (or before).

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1860? Some of those people are still voting in NY and the Midwest.

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Republicans are toothless and don't/won't do anything.

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People who continue to vote R and expect different outcomes are worse sheep than the average D voter.

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^what's your proposal instead? What do you suggest to all anti-communists / anti-socialists do in this two party system?

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By voting for current republicans, you enable their behavior. As of right now, things are going to have to get worse before they get better.

By being a "not socialist" vote, you signal to Rs that you're ok with them doing anything in office as long as they aren't overt socialists.