Trump-Vance-Zelenskyy

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I disagree. The US was offering Ukraine basically nothing. If you are Zelenskyy, why kiss the ring if there is nothing in it for you? His approval rating at home and in Europe probably went through the roof. Time will tell if that's enough to finish off Russia.
I would hardly call what we've given Ukraine for the past few years "nothing". Ukraine isn't entitled to anything from the U.S. at this point. If Z would rather scoff at the one nation willing to give him significant aid to score points at home, then good luck to him making it work with what he has...because today's display isn't going to sell more Americans on supporting them.
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Trump got put in a locker. Wild
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mallen said:

Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
Late to the party but 117 people actually starred the single dumbest post in the history of TexAgs? Remarkable.
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FireAg said:

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It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country without provocation and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.

You are looking at things on the surface…not the crux of what is going on here…

We have been dumping billions through USAID to that damn country, under the table, and on top of what we have been giving to them upfront…

Biden allowed Russia to go in there so that Biden could launder money to his family and friends…

This whole thing was created to steal money from US taxpayers…
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OWNED
hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. good times create weak men. and weak men create hard times.

less virtue signaling, more vice signaling.

Birds aren’t real
Lol,lmao
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Good Trump. People discussing who was rude etc are missing the point.

Using America's leverage to end this war is going to be popular with Americans. Trump saying crazy **** like Ukraine started the war, Zelensky is a dictator is just Trump using leverage. In this meeting, Trump and JD would have scolded Zelensky even if he was differential. They have to blow up Ukraines talking point, which only have any value because the US supports them.





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500,000ags said:

This is a crap sandwich.

On one hand, Zelensky has acted and talked like he's Rambo every time he's on US soil, and it's about time he gets put in his place.

On the other hand, this is going to end up in Russia gaining soil, and Ukraine and Russia both with nukes. Lovely.

We should have spent $300Bn on covert missions to remove Putin and his ilk.
Yes - more destabilization of the country with the largest inventory of nukes is very wise.

Why are so many people stuck in Cold War/Post WW2 consensus thinking? Why cant we be allowed to move beyond 20th century brinkmanship?
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Silver Arrows said:

Trump and JD are trash. Siding with the Russians
They are siding with the American People, you imbecile.

He is standing up for America like a strong man and President should do. I am sorry you like weak leadership and I am sorry your lady lost.

What is funny, MSM will think like you and push that agenda.

But most Americans do not care and see the truth. Which sucks for you and your party hahahahaha
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AggieShanks said:

Trump got put in a locker. Wild
What's wild is some of you actually believe things like this.
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johnnyblaze36 said:

mallen said:

Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
Late to the party but 117 people actually starred the single dumbest post in the history of TexAgs? Remarkable.
The premium board brigades here occasionally. :P
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Wabs said:

Interesting how some Americans (even on this thread) get their panties in a wad when the POTUS and VP are standing up for the UNITED STATES and putting OUR interests FIRST.
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AggieShanks said:

Trump got put in a locker. Wild

Can you show us that part?
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mallen said:

Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
We just watched POTUS attempt to extort Zelensky on National television in the presence of Russian state media "journalists" while the AP and Reuters were banned.

I mean this is a new low, even for Trump. Disgusting and childish are adjectives that won't get TexAgs word filtered. Beyond the incredulous treatment of AN ALLY, he literally went on a HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP detour.

This is abominable.
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"You're gambling with World War III..." Trump said.
WTF is he on about? Does he make that same accusation against Putin, the guy who actually started this war, by launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Why is the country defending itself the one being accused of "gambling with World War III"?
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Jbob04 said:


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Hullabaloonatic said:

mallen said:

Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
We just watched POTUS attempt to extort Zelensky on National television in the presence of Russian state media "journalists" while the AP and Reuters were banned.

I mean this is a new low, even for Trump. Disgusting and childish are adjectives that won't get TexAgs word filtered. Beyond the incredulous treatment of AN ALLY, he literally went on a HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP detour.

This is abominable.
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"You're gambling with World War III..." Trump said.
WTF is he on about? Does he make that same accusation against Putin, the guy who actually started this war, by launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Why is the country defending itself the one being accused of "gambling with World War III"?
What exactly was Trump trying to extort from the country America has given billions to?

What a wild take.

And again, it's a completely expected username giving it.
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unmade bed said:

AgGrad99 said:

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He's a hero because when the entire western world was making plans to give Ukraine to Russia and was negotiating his exile. He held his country together and they pushed the second largest military in the world back to the border and out of the Black Sea. Russia has lost this war already. Today we just aligned ourselves with the losers and against all of Europe and Ukraine. I'm also confident that China is happy to know that there is nothing stopping them from taking Taiwan.
He did that all by his lonesome?

Or did a very powerful ally save his bacon with money and equipment?
Not until after Ukraine withstood the first wave. Let's not rewrite history, most everyone assumed Ukraine would fall within a couple of weeks. No one was lining up to throw money away on a lost cause. The first few weeks were spent trying to punish Russia economically. No one seriously started supporting Ukraine's military effort until Russia was already bogged down.
Partially correct. The lethal aid President Trump's Administration during his first term made a substantial difference in the first months after Russia invaded.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
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Anyone who supports Ukraine and supports Zalenskky go stand with the dems. It was Zalenskky who campaigned with the dems. So any Ag who says we need to stand with Ukraine and Zelenskky, you are a Democrat.
"All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells are within you". Joseph Campbell
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dmart90 said:

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Wow!
That is pathetic! What a bunch of insolent children. Zelensky looks like an idiot - can't control his emotions. Trump and Vance look like playground bullies playing the role of savior. What a joke.
Or Trump and Vance look like two people that represent a country that just spent over 100 billion and want a return or they are walking.

Looks great to me
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Jay@AgsReward.com said:

It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.


You talking about Iraq war in 2003?
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Psycho Bunny said:

Anyone who supports Ukraine and supports Zalenskky go stand with the dems. It was Zalenskky who campaigned with the dems. So any Ag who says we need to stand with Ukraine and Zelenskky, you are a Democrat.


So you're saying we should stand with Russia?
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Burpelson said:

This is a disaster, and puts America closer to global war.
You're about 3 years too late on that take. This is what happens when America isn't seen a strong force, other nations take advantage like Russia did. We're now having to deal with this, and there's no simple solution. It's not in our interest to get deeper into a war.
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Yukon Cornelius said:

Jay@AgsReward.com said:

It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.


You talking about Iraq war in 2003?


Did we annex them?
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AggieShanks said:

Trump got put in a locker. Wild

Another soy boy who is wrong again
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Hullabaloonatic said:

mallen said:

Zelensky is a hero, Trump and Vance are imbeciles.
We just watched POTUS attempt to extort Zelensky on National television in the presence of Russian state media "journalists" while the AP and Reuters were banned.

I mean this is a new low, even for Trump. Disgusting and childish are adjectives that won't get TexAgs word filtered. Beyond the incredulous treatment of AN ALLY, he literally went on a HUNTER BIDENS LAPTOP detour.

This is abominable.
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"You're gambling with World War III..." Trump said.
WTF is he on about? Does he make that same accusation against Putin, the guy who actually started this war, by launching an unprovoked invasion of Ukraine? Why is the country defending itself the one being accused of "gambling with World War III"?
Only loonatics refuse to see that the West provoked this with the intelligence services supporting the coup in Kiev in 2014. Have you taken the time to listen to the intercepted phone call between Victoria Nuland.

Here it is: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26079957

Notice its not from a "right-wing" website.

We (the US and EU) stirred the pot here.
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If we did would that make invading them, a sovereign nation, under 100% false pretenses and killing a million Iraqis better?
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Teslag said:

Psycho Bunny said:

Anyone who supports Ukraine and supports Zalenskky go stand with the dems. It was Zalenskky who campaigned with the dems. So any Ag who says we need to stand with Ukraine and Zelenskky, you are a Democrat.


So you're saying we should stand with Russia?


ITS NOT OUR FIGHT.
F RUSSIA F UKRAINE.
LET THEM FIGURE IT OUT. So sick of the Ukraine flag waving morons that feel it's our problem. ITS NOT.
"All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells are within you". Joseph Campbell
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Zelenskyy isn't very smart. His ego is going to get more of his countrymen and women killed for no reason. He can't possibly win the war. The US needs to discontinue any and all aid and assistance. Let Ukraine go it alone with/without europes help.
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Teslag said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Jay@AgsReward.com said:

It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.


You talking about Iraq war in 2003?


Did we annex them?
It would have been better had we done so. And kept the oil and split the profits between the families of the men and women who died there.

5000 of our men died for what? Removing tyrant Hussein and replacing him with an Iranian proxy state?
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Gigem314 said:

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I disagree. The US was offering Ukraine basically nothing. If you are Zelenskyy, why kiss the ring if there is nothing in it for you? His approval rating at home and in Europe probably went through the roof. Time will tell if that's enough to finish off Russia.
I would hardly call what we've given Ukraine for the past few years "nothing". Ukraine isn't entitled to anything from the U.S. at this point. If Z would rather scoff at the one nation willing to give him significant aid to score points at home, then good luck to him making it work with what he has...because today's display isn't going to sell more Americans on supporting them.



Zelenskyy needed security guarantees. Johnson already said there would be no new aid. This deal only offered vague details on how the US could recover its original investment. What about that makes Ukraine more secure? Russia has already violated two agreements, what on earth would make you think Putin would keep this deal backed by undeveloped mineral rights?
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I personally cannot stand Trump, but when is enough enough? Standing by allies that need $100Bn and standing by allies that need $1.0Tn is not the same thing. We cannot bankroll the entire world versus Russia and China. We are literally making ourselves more vulnerable.
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TheEternalOptimist said:

Teslag said:

Yukon Cornelius said:

Jay@AgsReward.com said:

It is amazing that a country invades a sovereign country and we are on the side of the invaders. That is the heart of the matter and it is disturbing.


You talking about Iraq war in 2003?


Did we annex them?
It would have been better had we done so. And kept the oil and split the profits between the families of the men and women who died there.

5000 of our men died for what? Removing tyrant Hussein and replacing him with an Iranian proxy state?


And the creation of ISIS.
"All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells are within you". Joseph Campbell
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The Reverse Apache Master said:

Jbob04 said:



So the White House literally ate Zelensky's lunch?
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newbie11 said:

Zelenskyy isn't very smart. His ego is going to get more of his countrymen and women killed for no reason. He can't possibly win the war. The US needs to discontinue any and all aid and assistance. Let Ukraine go it alone with/without europes help.
Zelensky's ego?!?! He hardly got a word in while Trump is up there literally doing 6yr old 'imitation' voice repeating over and over "THANK ME! THANK ME! THANK ME!"
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The fact that the left has become a bunch of saber rattling war hawks is one of the most impressive psyops in human history.
 
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