El Gallo Blanco said:I fear this is precisely what Historians will be asking about Western Civilization in a few hundred years.ABATTBQ11 said:GAC06 said:JCA1 said:GAC06 said:HoustonAg2106 said:GAC06 said:JCA1 said:HoustonAg2106 said:Ag13 said:The google street view from June 2023 shows what you are describing perfectly. There would have been plenty of room for the truck to go around the barrier even if it was up. The entire system is/was very poorly designed.TexasAggie_02 said:Also, what is shown in the photo only blocks the road. Since the barrier was down, they had a squad car there to block the road. Terrorist drive around on the sidewalk, so that barrier would not have mattered. They need pole barriers on the sidewalk as well to stop cars (maybe that is what they are installing now, I don't know).nortex97 said:
They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?
I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.These hydraulic steel barriers were installed on Borboun Street in New Orleans after an attack in France where the t*rrorist used his car as a weapon, k*lling 86.
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They’re supposed to be raised between 5pm - 5am.
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('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).
This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
Is the system made to stop a terrorist attack or is it just simply to stop a car going down that street by accident?
This. It was never designed to thwart intentional acts, like a terrorist attack.
What do people who keep harping on this think would have happened if a barricade had been up? The guy just gives up and goes home? NOLA has pedestrians everywhere. He could have done the same thing on every other street in the Quarter as well as Canal, Magazine, Poydras, literally every street around the super dome before the Sugar Bowl, etc. I just don't get the thought that this attack could somehow have been thwarted.
Yes there are other places you can run people over. Bourbon Street is the most vulnerable area though, so barriers are absolutely needed. A narrow street that's often absolutely packed with people with nowhere to run is too obvious a target not to have something set up. This could have been a lot worse.
In Nice, 86 were killed in the same kind of attack on the same kind of target.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_Nice_truck_attack
The point is that even if the barrier was there the driver could have still gone onto the sidewalk around it just like he did to go around the police car that was there in place of the barrier.
That's why bollards are necessary on the sidewalk. The whole point is that the expensive retractable metal barrier is pointless if you can just drive around it.
Assume they had done so and Bourbon wasn't accessible, what's your plan for every other road in the Quarter? The literally hundreds of people walking up and down the sidewalk on Canal? magazine st? The tailgates and people crossing the street in the hundreds to get into the Sugar Bowl?
I acknowledged earlier that even with proper barriers on Bourbon, he could have attacked elsewhere. That doesn't mean you don't need security at high value targets. Why guard a nuclear power plant? They'll just attack somewhere else right?
Yeah, but you'd be saying this exact same thing about wherever they attack. If it wasn't Bourbon street, it would be somewhere else and the exact same, "Why didn't they protect it better?" question would be asked.
We should have never mass imported Muslims to begin with. Their religion and our culture are oil and water. They follow a sick genocidal pedophile who forced a SIX year old into marriage to be his sex slave and sucked the tongues of his grandchildren.
Jefferson knew it over 225 years ago. Too bad political correctness trumps common sense.
