Mass casualty event New Orleans

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Spore Ag
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Wonder why New Orleans was the target if he had to drive from Houston?
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Spore Ag said:

Wonder why New Orleans was the target if he had to drive from Houston?


Another terrorist scouted it and reported back to their leader it was a prime location due to the bollards being removed.
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B-1 83 said:

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Yeah that's right there where that Krystal burger is. Everybody know where thats at.


Krystal is close to Canal, between Canal and Iberville. Conti is a couple blocks further down Bourbon.
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Krazy Korner is St. Peter & Bourbon, a few blocks down

for those tying to get your bearings, Conti & Bourbon is where royal sonesta and the famous door bar are.
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Spore Ag said:

Wonder why New Orleans was the target if he had to drive from Houston?

High profile, relatively low security soft target. Biggest bang for his buck, so-to-speak.

NYE and Sugar Bowl crowds in a small area with little to no resistance. Where else is he going to have that kind of opportunity?
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newbie11 said:

It's for more troubling to me that his mosque is telling members to not cooperate with the authorities.

Thats a problem.
I don't blame them for telling folks not to talk to the FBI. We know the FBI works to entrap people and are highly dishonest, up to and including the top levels of the very dangerous organization with expansive secrecy and investigatory powers.
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newbie11 said:

It's for more troubling to me that his mosque is telling members to not cooperate with the authorities.

Thats a problem.




It's a feature, not a bug
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newbie11 said:

It's for more troubling to me that his mosque is telling members to not cooperate with the authorities.

Thats a problem.


Islam is not compatible with freedom loving Americans.
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BowSowy said:

nortex97 said:

Well I apologize for the stupid question I just thought this looked like a cell phone recording, maybe it is security footage just panned/zoomed into the truck.


It's very clearly a cell phone recording a screen. At one point when the video is panning, you can see the top of the screen and clearly see that the screen is static, implying that the actual security camera shot is wider, and the person doing the recording is zooming in and panning on their phone. I'm not sure why it's so hard to understand that there could be a security camera positioned on a very busy street like this.


Correct. This is so obviously a camera recording of a video screen.

You can also see some of the moire effect from recording the LCD screen.

Example of moire

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They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.



('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
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Correct. There are also less cropped versions of the video floating around where you can see the computer and video software controls in the cell phone recording of the screen.
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They were in the process of upgrading prior to the Super Bowl.
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Tramp96 said:

Spore Ag said:

Wonder why New Orleans was the target if he had to drive from Houston?

High profile, relatively low security soft target. Biggest bang for his buck, so-to-speak.

NYE and Sugar Bowl crowds in a small area with little to no resistance. Where else is he going to have that kind of opportunity?
Bourbon Street is everything islam hates concentrated in an easily accessible area
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Quote:

moire effect
Had no idea that had a name! Learn something new every day!

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nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.



('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
Why on earth were the "improvements" or "upgrades" not done on any other week OTHER than New Years/Sugar Bowl and say, Mardi Gras (to name the other obvious one)!!??
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titan said:

nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.



('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
Why on earth were the "improvements" or "upgrades" not done on any other week OTHER than New Years/Sugar Bowl and say, Mardi Gras (to name the other obvious one)!!??


Because a government agency is in charge.
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TSUAggie said:

titan said:

nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.



('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
Why on earth were the "improvements" or "upgrades" not done on any other week OTHER than New Years/Sugar Bowl and say, Mardi Gras (to name the other obvious one)!!??


Because a government agency is in charge.

Worse than that, a Louisiana and New Orleans government agency.
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titan said:

nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.



('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.
Why on earth were the "improvements" or "upgrades" not done on any other week OTHER than New Years/Sugar Bowl and say, Mardi Gras (to name the other obvious one)!!??

Likely security upgrades that are supposed to be done by the Super Bowl, which isn't for another month.
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It's really sad that people can't enjoy themselves anymore without having to worry about an attack.
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fullback44 said:

They probably look for guys like him. All his problems in life and he's already mad at everyone so they take advantage of him and push him along the path he took… no different than these kids on drugs that commit crazy crimes ,,, it just that radical ideals pushed him along his path vs drugs or something else
Similarly, cults don't go after level headed and rational individuals, they need that crease to work with.

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nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.


('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.


A few of these, parked building to building is an alternative method to block access to a street.

Of course I am not an aging police chief, so what do I know.

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fullback44 said:

They probably look for guys like him. All his problems in life and he's already mad at everyone so they take advantage of him and push him along the path he took… no different than these kids on drugs that commit crazy crimes ,,, it just that radical ideals pushed him along his path vs drugs or something else


They absolutely do. They design websites and have recruiters active in social media searching for people with profiles like this to. Sympathize, radicalize, and weaponize is the MO.
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doubledog said:

nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.


('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.


A few of these, parked building to building is an alternative method to block access to a street.

Of course I am not an aging DEI police chief, so what do I know.



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doubledog said:

nortex97 said:

They apparently have steel barricades that can be 'erected' around Bourbon street but were not for NYE. I missed it but has an explanation been provided as to why they weren't up (these are just mechanically raised)?

I now see the community note that they were upgrading these so maybe that is it.


('Diversity bollards' in the replies made me laugh).

This improvement pending might explain the target selection.


A few of these, parked building to building is an alternative method to block access to a street.

Of course I am not an aging police chief, so what do I know.


National guard tanks would do in a pinch as a stopgap.
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Its' probably been discussed in this thread way back - what is the connection to Bryan. I saw KBTX put something out but the city rebuffed those accusations. Killer had relatives here or something? Fake news?
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One consideration for the barrier thing might have been the impediment to pedestrian traffic. Parking a large vehicle in front of a narrow Bourbon Street entrance would cause a pedestrian backup onto Canal Street which would also be unsafe. Just a thought...
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aggiehawg said:




I wonder if that scissor lift or whatever he ran into saved many lives. Looks like his goal was to make it further down Bourbon Street to get close enough to detonate the devices, run over more people, and have a more controlled exit from his vehicle to start shooting.
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agent-maroon said:

One consideration for the barrier thing might have been the impediment to pedestrian traffic. Parking a large vehicle in front of a narrow Bourbon Street entrance would cause a pedestrian backup onto Canal Street which would also be unsafe. Just a thought...


This. Bollards are like filters. They need to easily allow pedestrian traffic while preventing vehicles. Not only would a parked vehicle or other large barrier inhibit pedestrian traffic and cause a potentially large crowd outside the barriers, it would also hem people in. If there were shooters in the crowd, it would be more difficult for them to escape.
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Now the FBI is saying there weren't any others involved? How can they go from saying 3 men and a woman planting IEDS to it being a lone terrorist?
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I wonder if that scissor lift or whatever he ran into saved many lives. Looks like his goal was to make it further down Bourbon Street to get close enough to detonate the devices, run over more people, and have a more controlled exit from his vehicle to start shooting.
Have seen reports that he had remote detonation devices in his truck. So that would be my assumption. His intent was to drive by to detonate those preplaced further down Bourbon Street.
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Philip J Fry said:

Now the FBI is saying there weren't any others involved? How can they go from saying 3 men and a woman planting IEDS to it being a lone terrorist?

It's like you don't know today's FBI at all.
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Maybe just station an officer with a rocket or bazooka at each end of the street. Something that can quickly destroy and stop a vehicle.
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Philip J Fry said:

Now the FBI is saying there weren't any others involved? How can they go from saying 3 men and a woman planting IEDS to it being a lone terrorist?


I think that was just initial speculation.

That said, there WERE certainly others involved, but they may not be local. He definitely got some kind of help with this.
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LMCane said:

From the dead terrorist's Mosque in Houston:




I think this is fake. That's a screenshot from their Facebook but there are no posts in January. Nothing on their website either.
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Tramp96 said:

Philip J Fry said:

Now the FBI is saying there weren't any others involved? How can they go from saying 3 men and a woman planting IEDS to it being a lone terrorist?

It's like you don't know today's FBI at all.


I very much understand it. Trump needs to be able to clean house there.
 
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