19% is laughable. I'm ordering quarter sawn oak bedroom furniture for one of my kids. That price is up 60% compared to when I ordered another set before Biden.

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Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again

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Nice.
Newsweek.
Propaganda.
LOL.
TDS fully deployed.

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TDS is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new. Whether you like it or not Trump was not a good pick to get the toxic DemoRats out of office. Totally fair for real conservatives to point this out. Maybe its you that has RDS Or Reality Derangement Syndrome. Reality and boot licking have little in common.

That said I agree with Newsweek being total lefty trash. That doesn't change the fact Trump is a weak candidate against what should be a blow out win for the R's

RDS- interesting how that acronym aligns with a certain persons initials

Trump is up 2.7 still in battleground states (those being really the only ones that matter).



Sorry commies, your dementia traitor is going to lose. Badly.

LMCane said:

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Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again

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Hillary says hello!

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bobbranco said:

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LMCane said:

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Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again

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Nice.
Newsweek.
Propaganda.
LOL.
TDS fully deployed.

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TDS is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new. Whether you like it or not Trump was not a good pick to get the toxic DemoRats out of office. Totally fair for real conservatives to point this out. Maybe its you that has RDS Or Reality Derangement Syndrome. Reality and boot licking have little in common.

That said I agree with Newsweek being total lefty trash. That doesn't change the fact Trump is a weak candidate against what should be a blow out win for the R's

RDS- interesting how that acronym aligns with a certain persons initials

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Get a grip on reality because RDS was my first pick but he did not gain traction. But no way in hell will I spend my time until election pissing and moaning like a little girl because I dislike Trump. The opponent, the puppet Biden, is the enemy not Trump. But keep up the discord, assist Biden and maintain the high level of poltroonery..

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📊 North Carolina Governor: Quinnipiac

🟦 Stein 52% (+8)
🟥 Robinson 44%

Independents
🟦 Stein 52% (+9)
🟥 Robinson 43%
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538: #19 (2.8/3.0) | 1,401 RV | 4/4-8https://t.co/xtNgVibf3d pic.twitter.com/Pvn66qCioF

— InteractivePolls (@IAPolls2022) April 10, 2024

Probably about +4 to +5 for the Democrat since Quinnipiac leans left and always has.

But it goes to show, MAGA can win primaries, but they are toxic in the general because in MAGA, the loudest, craziest voice is the one which they fall in love with. In the general, most people see a whack job and won't vote for him or her.

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so now because we have yet another awful MAGA nominee. we are going to lose North Carolina

serious question for the Trumpers:

is there ANY amount of losing that will cause you to rethink your blind support for all Trump all the time?

November will be 2 Presidential elections, and four Congressional elections worth of losses. losing easy Senate seats. losing a chance at large GOP House Majority.

and the GOP has fewer Governors and fewer State Houses since Trump was first elected in 2016.

How many losers will you continue to support?

Your hate sadly corrupts your analysis and renders your opinions worthless.

Do you not understand? We're trying to vote out Biden. What is your problem with that? Unless you're a Biden man. Please answer.

Would you care to list the awful things about Lt. Governor Robinson and why he's a terrible choice for North Carolina republicans to nominate for the governor race despite his popularity and then tell us all about the amazing conservative that got his ass kicked by Robinson in the primary in NC?

I think Stein is up in polling because of his support for baby murdering. R's need to stop bickering about america first vs "true" conservatives, support the nominees because it's too late now, and focus on defeating the physcosocialists.

Eh. Polls said Hilary would win too. Don't put too much stock into them.

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ttu_85 said:

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bobbranco said:

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LMCane said:

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Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again

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Nice.
Newsweek.
Propaganda.
LOL.
TDS fully deployed.

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TDS is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new. Whether you like it or not Trump was not a good pick to get the toxic DemoRats out of office. Totally fair for real conservatives to point this out. Maybe its you that has RDS Or Reality Derangement Syndrome. Reality and boot licking have little in common.

That said I agree with Newsweek being total lefty trash. That doesn't change the fact Trump is a weak candidate against what should be a blow out win for the R's

RDS- interesting how that acronym aligns with a certain persons initials

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Get a grip on reality because RDS was my first pick but he did not gain traction. But no way in hell will I spend my time until election pissing and moaning like a little girl because I dislike Trump. The opponent, the puppet Biden, is the enemy not Trump. But keep up the discord, assist Biden and maintain the high level of poltroonery..

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Agree, Biden and everything he represents is the enemy. Nobody on our side has said otherwise. Thats is why its odd people would put pity for Trump over surely beating a mindless moron like Biden and his demoRats.

Pointing out Trumps mistakes is not "assisting" the demRats. Only in a boot lickers mind is that even a thought. The "little girls" that ***** and moan" are the ones that scream TDS ! TDS ! anytime anyone is critical of dear leader. Trump makes mistakes and he is soft on the demoRats and should be called out accordingly.

I have observed that Trump is full of piss and vinegar when battling other conservatives and republicans but goes easy on Biden and other rats. Why is that ?

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TDS is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new.

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It is all they have at this point. They all throw it out at even the slightest criticism of Trump, even when that criticism is totally justified.

Truly, due to how it is used constantly to attack other members, it should fall under the ad hominem rule (only in reference to another poster) like numerous other things which started out fine, and later were considered by the staff to have crossed the line.

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I have observed that Trump is full of piss and vinegar when battling other conservatives and republicans but goes easy on Biden and other rats.

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Another who grossly misunderstands primary politics and team politics. And Trump should always call out those who are not team members. But keep whining and sow the discord.

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TDS is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new.

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It is all they have at this point. They all throw it out at even the slightest criticism of Trump, even when that criticism is totally justified.

Truly, due to how it is used constantly to attack other members, it should fall under the ad hominem rule (only in reference to another poster) like numerous other things which started out fine, and later were considered by the staff to have crossed the line.

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Maybe because you have it so bad. Enjoy Biden again.

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Eh. Polls said Hilary would win too. Don't put too much stock into them.

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Hilary did win the popular vote; she just lost the important swing states. Whether that happens in 2024 remains to be seen.

not really sure why we bother with public polling after the last 10 years

case in point, a poll out of MN yesterday had trump leading biden with under 30 voters by 30 points, after losing them by 25 points in 2020. even factoring in youth anger over israel there's no world in which that's believable.

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not really sure why we bother with public polling after the last 10 years

case in point, a poll out of MN yesterday had trump leading biden with under 30 voters by 30 points, after losing them by 25 points in 2020. even factoring in youth anger over israel there's no world in which that's believable.

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that part that's not believable is biden winning the under 30 vote in MN by 25 points in 2020 with legitimate legal votes.

as long as minneapolis is still mass-mailing out all the ballots, i wouldn't trust a poll that has Trump winning, even if it truly reflects the sentiment among likely voters in the state of MN.

Quinnipiac poll today from Lucianne.com shows Trump with only a TWO point lead in North Carolina.

if that happens, no way he wins Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania.

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Eh. Polls said Hilary would win too. Don't put too much stock into them.

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could you tell Donald Trump that please?

considering for eight long years he basically talks about his polling numbers more than any actual policy.

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Very informative OP. It seems like most people on this board don't realize that this country is about to go irreversibly democrat in both houses of Congress and in the White House. After the next 4 years of complete democrat control, the elections will be so rigged, it won't matter if 90% of the population comes to its senses and starts voting Republican. The left will manufacture the votes they need to maintain control, and anybody questioning it will get a visit from the FBI.

There is not much we can do about it at this point, but everybody needs to be aware so they can plan accordingly.

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The Democrats don't need to manufacture votes when Trump gets involved.

An argument could be made that when it comes to Biden and Trump, nearly everyone has already made up their mind and more spending for advertising may not be of much help.

More spending on getting out the vote could definitely help.

More importantly, for the House and Senate elections, more spending for advertising could be a major factor. Putting RNC money to help those campaigns instead of channeling it to Trump to pay his legal fees and Melania's hair dresser could change the election.

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Trump is so old, so worn, and so stupid. For heaven sake come up with something new.

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FIFY

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the loudest, craziest voice is the one which they fall in love with. In the general, most people see a whack job and won't vote for him or her.

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ALL Democrats are bigger whack jobs than MAGA so how do they keep winning even when they don't have a MAGA opponent?

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Ag_0112358132134 said:

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Very informative OP. It seems like most people on this board don't realize that this country is about to go irreversibly democrat in both houses of Congress and in the White House. After the next 4 years of complete democrat control, the elections will be so rigged, it won't matter if 90% of the population comes to its senses and starts voting Republican. The left will manufacture the votes they need to maintain control, and anybody questioning it will get a visit from the FBI.

There is not much we can do about it at this point, but everybody needs to be aware so they can plan accordingly.

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The Democrats don't need to manufacture votes when Trump gets involved.

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But they do

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Quinnipiac poll today from Lucianne.com shows Trump with only a TWO point lead in North Carolina.

if that happens, no way he wins Arizona and Georgia and Pennsylvania.

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Then he's up by at least 5 because Quinnipiac has a long, proven track record of giving 3-5 points to the Democrat candidate.

PA is long gone and probably lost forever. Their mass-mailed ballots have minds of their own and have already determined that Venezuela 2.0 is better than the possibility of not crushing fetus skulls at will.

Trump doubles support among black men:

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Only 12 percent of black men voted for Trump in 2020, voting data shows. There is no compatible 2020 polling for black men.
In 2020, six percent of black women said they would vote for Trump, Associated Press polling found, five points less than the Journal's 2024 polling.
In more good news for Trump, 42 percent of black women remain up for grabs in 2024, the Journal survey showed:

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how real people respond to polls don't matter. how the mass-mailed out ballots get filled out and delivered is what matters.

There was a discussion of something similar last year.

Is the Black Vote beginning to crack? | TexAgs

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Blacks make up around 11% of the electorate and whites make up around 69%(nice) of the electorate. That same poll shows Trump down 8% with white voters from where he was in 2020 - note better margin of error for whites than blacks surveyed. Trump would gain around 1.3% from blacks, but lose 5.5% from whites.

https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2023/08/Fox_August-11-14-2023_Complete_Cross-Tabs_August-17-Release.pdf
https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2020/10/26/what-the-2020-electorate-looks-like-by-party-race-and-ethnicity-age-education-and-religion/
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/06/30/behind-bidens-2020-victory/

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This only matters if you count actual voters using actual legal votes.

It does not matter if you just count ballots, which can come from wherever, with whatever address, and whatever ****ty "signature", dropped under whatever ****ty drop box under a underlit bridge in Philly, Atlanta, by "uber drivers" that deliver only to hungry drop boxes that were legally required to have camera surveillance, but when surveillance is asked for legally and it "cant be found"...ehh, who cares, whatever.....oh, and guess what, the votes are counted by people paid by the guy that "donated" $500M 4 months before the election to "help count the votes"...Oh and guess what, even with the extra $500M that matches exactly what the US Federal Government provided to count the votes....it will take them an extra 3-5 weeks to count all of the votes. For the first time ever. Oh yeah, and the result of their extended counting of mail in ballots, Joe Biden will win by a very slim margin in every state he was getting absolutely butt****ed in on election night..... All because of a cold virus...

That's how the leader of the free world is actually chosen. Worse and less secure than at least 50 developed and undeveloped countries on the earth.

And that's exactly how we got who we have right now.

I am so skeptical that Trump will receive a meaningful larger share of the black vote. We saw the same predictions in the 2020 election and I don't recall it making a difference. I think they'll continue to pull the D lever in mass because the Dems cater to them constantly and manufacture stories of "racism" to stir them up in the months before an election.

Hope I'm wrong, but I'll believe it when I see it.

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This only matters if you count actual voters using actual legal votes.

It does not matter if you just count ballots, which can come from wherever, with whatever address, and whatever ****ty "signature", dropped under whatever ****ty drop box under a underlit bridge in Philly, Atlanta, wherever that was legally required to have camera surveillance, but when surveillance is asked for legally and it "cant be found"...ehh, who cares, whatever.....

That's how the leader of the free world is actually chosen. Worse and less secure than at least 50 developed and undeveloped countries on the earth.

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That, along with the party in power trying to jail their competition for the office. We've become a communist country if this plays out. Never thought I'd live to see it.

The Hill runs a big essay on replacing Biden at the convention out of desperation, noting some recent problems in polling/support on his far left among other things;

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Despite the growing speculation that Biden is no longer up to task, the White House has held firm, denied all and has categorically stated that Biden will be the nominee. To be sure, almost all the arguments Alexrod's and Klein's included were folded around the joint worries about Biden's advanced age as well as his perceived cognitive issues.

But beyond those arguments, three major vulnerabilities have crested the Biden reelection horizon: A new, improved and highly focused Trump campaign; the populist independent campaign of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.; and possibly the greatest threat to Biden's reelection chances he has become radioactive to the far-left wing of his party.

To be sure, the Democrats who do feel Biden is now a liability to holding the White House are deeply concerned about Trump's poll numbers, his massive base, his increased fundraising and his more locked-down, disciplined campaign. If one reads between the lines of pieces put out by the Democrat-supporting mainstream media, it's clear that many are now being written with the assumption that Trump will be the winner.

Next comes the growing problem of RFK Jr. He is a populist, he speaks to every demographic of voter and, with Nicole Shanahan now his announced vice-presidential choice, it's all but guaranteed that he will get on a majority of state ballots. The DNC has made it clear that it sees Kennedy as a direct threat to Biden's reelection. Unfortunately for them, RFK Jr. is proving to be the most powerful and resilient third-party candidate in three decades.

But the threats posed to Biden from Trump and Kennedy may pale next to the last one: Biden is seen as yesterday's news to far-left and young liberal voters.

While almost no one is paying attention anymore, there were still primaries held last week. And within the vote counts of those primaries, hid the most ominous news and threat to Biden. In Wisconsin, Connecticut and Rhode Island, collectively, over 10 percent of Democrats voted "uncommitted" or for another candidate.

These "uncommitted" results came after far-left activists pushed voters to refrain from voting for Biden in protest over a host of issues most especially his handling of the war between Israel and Hamas. In Wisconsin, 48,000 Democrats voted "uninstructed." Another 17,000-plus voted for Dean Phillips … who is no longer even in the race.

Wisconsin is a critical swing state, and those numbers have to be setting off alarm bells for Democrats. In Connecticut and Rhode Island, the same horror movie played across the screen. Nearly 12 percent of Democrats in Connecticut voted "uncommitted"; in Rhode Island, it was 14.9 percent.

The Biden and Democratic Party cheerleaders in the media and elsewhere love to chirp out that in 2020, Biden got 306 electoral votes and won by over 7,000,000 votes. While that may feed their false bravado, the reality was that if 50,000 votes in a few states had flipped, Biden would have lost.

While the Trump and Kennedy campaigns are obviously a threat to Biden's reelection, it is now this seemingly solid 10 percent of "uncommitted" far-left and young Democratic voters permanently turning their back on the president who make Biden's campaign unsustainable. A percentage which is likely to grow over the next few months.

That being the case, if the Democrats hope to win in November, Biden will have to be replaced at the convention in Chicago come August.

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Contrarily, analyses/poll showing Republicans should be rooting for high turnout.

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Despite that, though, Trump wasn't significantly more popular with infrequent voters than with consistent voters. In a poll I conducted in January and February 2016 via GfK's KnowledgePanel, respondents who hadn't voted in any of the three prior general elections (2010, 2012 and 2014) supported former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton by 3 percentage points. For respondents who had voted in all of those elections, Clinton's lead was only slightly larger: 6 points.

Today, though, this mild "participation gap" has become massive. Between Feb. 20 and March 18, 2024,* Gall Sigler and I oversaw a survey, fielded by NORC, of 2,462 English- and Spanish-speaking adults living in the U.S. According to public records, 63 percent of our respondents who reported being U.S. citizens turned out to vote in 2020.**

And when we broke out respondents by their voting history, we found dramatic differences in whom they support for president in 2024. President Joe Biden performed much better among frequent voters, while Trump had a large lead among people who haven't voted recently. Specifically, among respondents who voted in the 2018, 2020 and 2022 general elections, Biden outpaced Trump 50 percent to 39 percent. But among respondents who were old enough to vote but voted in none of those three elections, Trump crushed Biden 44 percent to 26 percent.

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This is one of my biggest concerns regarding the convention. If the dems can pull the ole' switcheroo then we could be in trouble. They have one or multiple things up their sleeves though. In January 2020 Trump was on the express track to reelection and they found a way to derail him with covid and mail in votes. They'll pull something again because they're all about winning at all costs and the media will carry their water.