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Reno Hightower said:

The ballot harvesters will be churning

Yes they will and I've yet to hear how the R's plan to battle that problem. Perhaps they have no plan.
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Rockdoc said:

Reno Hightower said:

The ballot harvesters will be churning

Yes they will and I've yet to hear how the R's plan to battle that problem. Perhaps they have no plan.
I think some states like TX and GA (maybe AZ?) had state houses that actually passed some election integrity laws to at least try to make the untraceable ez fraud jokes of elections slightly less easy to defraud. Other states like PA and MI might be too far past the Gone as their state houses are all in on being a banana republic to support the marxist regime. An ID that proves the person voting is the person who is registered to vote is racist voter suppression because baby killing is far too important, which unfortunately means some former purple swing states may have become forever deep blue already.
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An Emerson College poll of 1,438 registered voters, conducted from April 2 to 3, put Trump at 43 percent against 42 percent for Biden and 8 percent for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In a straight head-to-head with all other candidates and undecided voters removed, the Republican challenger had 51 percent of the vote against 49 percent for the Democratic incumbent. However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead 51 to 49, said Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling.

A YouGov survey, conducted for The Economist, had Trump and Biden tied at 43 percent each with Kennedy Jr. third at 2 percent. This survey of 1,601 registered voters took place between March 30 and April 2.

Meanwhile, two surveys by Morning Consult and Big Village at the end of March both gave Biden a two-point lead over his challenger and according to Polymarket, an online prediction platform where users can bet on world events, Biden's odds of victory in November has increased substantially since February.

We all told you so...
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Yougov, LOL. Still not tired of winning. And the lawfare insanity is just going to give more folks pause to even consider voting for the other option ever again.
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But he likes his polls better! Lol
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LMCane said:

However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead
among the 3am mailed in ballot drop offs, Biden is way ahead
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In a totally legit election, no way the vegetable wins. At least he's got your vote.
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I can only think of a few reasons to vote for whoever is handling the lying, corrupt, racist, incoherent, senile rapist pedophile empty suit. They fit generally two categories and it can be hard to decipher on a message board which category some of the Biden supporters fall into. I think most are in category #2 because Pavda fake news has programmed the masses with uncurable TDS.

1. you're a communist that hates America and everything it once stood for, hate the idea of the American dream and land of opportunity based on hard work and merit and want to see its continued destruction. You hate capitalism, religion, family, free speech, safety and security. Identity politics groups are everything and individuals are nothing. Foreign interests are more important to you than Americans'. Venezuela gave us the blueprint; we just need to keep following it to a tee like Biden's handlers have been. It's going swimmingly because when we finish destroying this experiment and build back better into a communist utopia, everyone will be happy.

2. you're a useful idiot completely brainwashed to think a Marxist regime destroying America is the best choice because the propaganda has worked. You're convinced that because the opposition doesn't want you to murder babies at will, a full on Marxist regime is better. You're convinced that the party that wants smaller government, a less burdensome tax and regulatory environment to spur growth and investment here, and to put Americans' interests above foreign, globalist, and elitists' special interests is led by literally orange Hitler and orange Hitler is going to put everyone in gulags as dictator. You're convinced that fair elections would be racist voter suppression because black people can't get IDs. You're convinced that big government will solve every problem if they just keep spending trillions and if they ever stop wasting trillions, the earth will stop spinning. All government has to do is keep raising taxes on the few people left who still earn money and it won't have the same results as Venezuela because... reasons. You're convinced that inflation is a good thing. You're convinced that crime is down and jobs are up and Bidenomics is amazing. You're convinced we needed 10 million unvetted migrants from over 180 different countries to waltz on in here unfettered in less than 3 years because we need people to pick fruits and vegetables and our border is secure.
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Quote:

College-educated white men:
  • 2024: Biden +21; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +24)
College-educated white voters overall:
  • 2024: Biden +24; 2020: Biden +3 (net change: Biden +21)
College-educated white women:
  • 2024: Biden +28; 2020: Biden +9 (net change: Biden +19)
Over 45:
  • 2024: Biden +6; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +9)
Under 45:
  • 2024: Trump +1; 2020: Biden +14 (net change: Trump +15)
Independents:
  • 2024: Trump +7; 2020: Biden +13 (net change: Trump +20)
Nonwhite:
  • 2024: Biden +11; 2020: Biden +45 (net change: Trump +34)

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243264831/key-voting-groups-are-shifting-in-the-race-between-biden-and-trump

I don't put a lot of faith in polls, but that is interesting.
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I mean, it's NPR.

I've posted links from Tass, too, so admit that's fair, but really…you take it for what it is.
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LMCane said:

An Emerson College poll of 1,438 registered voters, conducted from April 2 to 3, put Trump at 43 percent against 42 percent for Biden and 8 percent for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In a straight head-to-head with all other candidates and undecided voters removed, the Republican challenger had 51 percent of the vote against 49 percent for the Democratic incumbent. However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead 51 to 49, said Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling.

A YouGov survey, conducted for The Economist, had Trump and Biden tied at 43 percent each with Kennedy Jr. third at 2 percent. This survey of 1,601 registered voters took place between March 30 and April 2.

Meanwhile, two surveys by Morning Consult and Big Village at the end of March both gave Biden a two-point lead over his challenger and according to Polymarket, an online prediction platform where users can bet on world events, Biden's odds of victory in November has increased substantially since February.

We all told you so...



In other words, within the margins of errors in states that matter for both sides and turnout for each candidate in those states is vitally important.

Just like in:
2020
2016
2012
2000


There is one key difference this time though. Trump was never this close at this point in the races of 2016 and 2020. The Dems should be worried and hopeful that something happens this summer to at least get them back to the norm by Sept. Once Trump starts focusing on the states with close margins it will be interesting to see what happens.

Also, he's doing really well in Nevada. That's something new.


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You're wasting you time looking at a single poll taken at a single time…

Need to look at polling AVERAGES made up of different polling sources taken at similar times…

Any single poll can tell you what you want to hear…the reality is in the averages…
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GeorgiAg said:

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College-educated white men:
  • 2024: Biden +21; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +24)
College-educated white voters overall:
  • 2024: Biden +24; 2020: Biden +3 (net change: Biden +21)
College-educated white women:
  • 2024: Biden +28; 2020: Biden +9 (net change: Biden +19)
Over 45:
  • 2024: Biden +6; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +9)
Under 45:
  • 2024: Trump +1; 2020: Biden +14 (net change: Trump +15)
Independents:
  • 2024: Trump +7; 2020: Biden +13 (net change: Trump +20)
Nonwhite:
  • 2024: Biden +11; 2020: Biden +45 (net change: Trump +34)

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243264831/key-voting-groups-are-shifting-in-the-race-between-biden-and-trump

I don't put a lot of faith in polls, but that is interesting.
When I saw this the other day, I was baffled.

This tells me college educated whites, got absolutely nothing from college, minus getting dumber

Wonder how he does with Uneducated Whites? I think I saw something where Trump only has a 3 pt advantage there, which would be big turn, huge turn
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Is there any polls that only do one race, to get a more accurate number on each group?
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LMCane said:

An Emerson College poll of 1,438 registered voters, conducted from April 2 to 3, put Trump at 43 percent against 42 percent for Biden and 8 percent for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In a straight head-to-head with all other candidates and undecided voters removed, the Republican challenger had 51 percent of the vote against 49 percent for the Democratic incumbent. However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead 51 to 49, said Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling.

A YouGov survey, conducted for The Economist, had Trump and Biden tied at 43 percent each with Kennedy Jr. third at 2 percent. This survey of 1,601 registered voters took place between March 30 and April 2.

Meanwhile, two surveys by Morning Consult and Big Village at the end of March both gave Biden a two-point lead over his challenger and according to Polymarket, an online prediction platform where users can bet on world events, Biden's odds of victory in November has increased substantially since February.

We all told you so...
Check out the latest Rasmussen poll, they usually have better approval numbers for Biden, it stays around 45% approval

they have Biden losing by 8 pts

Polls are all over the place and like I said earlier, I do not take them too seriously

Kennedy hurts Trump in one or two swing states, but the others, he hurts Biden by a lot.

Trump will not win the popular vote and that is expected, so any poll with Trump ahead is a bad sign for Biden. He should be ahead by an average of 3 or more in the national
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GeorgiAg said:

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College-educated white men:
  • 2024: Biden +21; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +24)
College-educated white voters overall:
  • 2024: Biden +24; 2020: Biden +3 (net change: Biden +21)
College-educated white women:
  • 2024: Biden +28; 2020: Biden +9 (net change: Biden +19)
Over 45:
  • 2024: Biden +6; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +9)
Under 45:
  • 2024: Trump +1; 2020: Biden +14 (net change: Trump +15)
Independents:
  • 2024: Trump +7; 2020: Biden +13 (net change: Trump +20)
Nonwhite:
  • 2024: Biden +11; 2020: Biden +45 (net change: Trump +34)

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243264831/key-voting-groups-are-shifting-in-the-race-between-biden-and-trump

I don't put a lot of faith in polls, but that is interesting.
This doesn't make any sense because Trump wins married men handily and even wins married women. It wasn't separated by race though.

When the Dems start talking about seizing retirement funds over a certain amount there will be a shift by these crazy white folk. You would think handicapping their kids because of their race/sex (i.e., their sons) would be enough.
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2023NCAggies said:




Polls are all over the place and like I said earlier, I do not take them too seriously

Kennedy hurts Trump in one or two swing states, but the others, he hurts Biden by a lot.

Trump will not win the popular vote and that is expected, so any poll with Trump ahead is a bad sign for Biden. He should be ahead by an average of 3 or more in the national
This is pretty spot-on based on what the RCP averages have been showing...
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GeorgiAg said:

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College-educated white men:
  • 2024: Biden +21; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +24)
College-educated white voters overall:
  • 2024: Biden +24; 2020: Biden +3 (net change: Biden +21)
College-educated white women:
  • 2024: Biden +28; 2020: Biden +9 (net change: Biden +19)
Over 45:
  • 2024: Biden +6; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +9)
Under 45:
  • 2024: Trump +1; 2020: Biden +14 (net change: Trump +15)
Independents:
  • 2024: Trump +7; 2020: Biden +13 (net change: Trump +20)
Nonwhite:
  • 2024: Biden +11; 2020: Biden +45 (net change: Trump +34)

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243264831/key-voting-groups-are-shifting-in-the-race-between-biden-and-trump

I don't put a lot of faith in polls, but that is interesting.
Sticking with Biden you are obviously.
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You are repeating yourself.
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LMCane said:

An Emerson College poll of 1,438 registered voters, conducted from April 2 to 3, put Trump at 43 percent against 42 percent for Biden and 8 percent for independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

In a straight head-to-head with all other candidates and undecided voters removed, the Republican challenger had 51 percent of the vote against 49 percent for the Democratic incumbent. However, among very likely voters, Biden is ahead 51 to 49, said Spencer Kimball, executive director of Emerson College Polling.

A YouGov survey, conducted for The Economist, had Trump and Biden tied at 43 percent each with Kennedy Jr. third at 2 percent. This survey of 1,601 registered voters took place between March 30 and April 2.

Meanwhile, two surveys by Morning Consult and Big Village at the end of March both gave Biden a two-point lead over his challenger and according to Polymarket, an online prediction platform where users can bet on world events, Biden's odds of victory in November has increased substantially since February.

We all told you so...
A nation-wide poll is worthless. HTHs
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Until I see a poll that can figure in some aspect of vote fraud (and that's probably not possible) they're all pretty unreliable to me. No matter which side you're on, polls don't mean much right now.
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2023NCAggies said:

GeorgiAg said:

Quote:

College-educated white men:
  • 2024: Biden +21; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +24)
College-educated white voters overall:
  • 2024: Biden +24; 2020: Biden +3 (net change: Biden +21)
College-educated white women:
  • 2024: Biden +28; 2020: Biden +9 (net change: Biden +19)
Over 45:
  • 2024: Biden +6; 2020: Trump +3 (net change: Biden +9)
Under 45:
  • 2024: Trump +1; 2020: Biden +14 (net change: Trump +15)
Independents:
  • 2024: Trump +7; 2020: Biden +13 (net change: Trump +20)
Nonwhite:
  • 2024: Biden +11; 2020: Biden +45 (net change: Trump +34)

https://www.npr.org/2024/04/07/1243264831/key-voting-groups-are-shifting-in-the-race-between-biden-and-trump

I don't put a lot of faith in polls, but that is interesting.
When I saw this the other day, I was baffled.

This tells me college educated whites, got absolutely nothing from college, minus getting dumber

Wonder how he does with Uneducated Whites? I think I saw something where Trump only has a 3 pt advantage there, which would be big turn, huge turn
"College educated" includes Baristas working at Starbucks with Women's Studies degrees. People making over $100K per year went for Trump by a large margin.
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Quote:

When the Dems start talking about seizing retirement funds over a certain amount there will be a shift by these crazy white folk. You would think handicapping their kids because of their race/sex (i.e., their sons) would be enough.
LOL, talk about some issues the Dems will absolutely not even be whispering about at the DNC this summer.

They won't discuss that until well past the election, if they 'win' and then it would be dropped like how Obama dropped Obamacare on the country after not campaigning at all on the need to move to communist medicine.
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Why Biden is losing young voters:

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As I have written several times, with low unemployment, a (somehow) still-growing economy, and an unpopular rival candidate, Joe Biden ought to be breezing to a relatively easy re-election. But he continues to trail Trump. (Leave aside for separate treatment why the top line economic numbers are misleading. . .)

Check out this chart from Bloomberg:



Bloomberg translates what this means in terms of votes as follows:
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Trump is currently leading the president 47% to 40% with voters 18-34 in swing states, according to a March Bloomberg News/Morning Consult poll. By contrast, Biden won 61% of voters under 30 last cycle.

Devastating.
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I think we all know that Trump doesn't have a chance in November. The Dem's will find a way to win.
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agAngeldad said:

I don't think people listen to the news much anymore. Streaming has eliminated most commercials and news and people just don't care. Unless something drastic happens, ie Floyd, COVID, Protest events, I could see 24 swinging again. What concerns me is the rhetoric after the swing. It will make the summer of 2020 look like a small blimp.
This. I don't watch Fox News anymore because they don't have a streaming option. Oh well.
Trump will fix it.
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mlb87 said:

I think we all know that Trump doesn't have a chance in November. The Dem's will find a way to win.
I don't "know" that at all...

I have been saying for almost a year now that the cheat will be harder if the race is outside most polling MOE's...

If it is within polling MOE's in November, then game on...just like 2020...
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Once the national poll stories have had a few weeks to percolate out in the public arena, Trump is done.

Why?

Once the narrative has been written that PedoJoe has a lead in polls, they're locking that **** stain in the basement again, and there's absolutely NO CHANCE of Trump being allowed to goad him into getting on stage and exposing his mush brain.

Short of nuclear wars or biden having a massive stroke on live TV, this race is over before it got around the first turn. Argue with me all you want, but it's better to brace for the inevitable than to grasp at hope.

This country is in Stage 4 diagnosis, and half of the *******s in America are going to vote for the cancer to keep growing.
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FireAg said:

mlb87 said:

I think we all know that Trump doesn't have a chance in November. The Dem's will find a way to win.
I don't "know" that at all...

I have been saying for almost a year now that the cheat will be harder if the race is outside most polling MOE's...

If it is within polling MOE's in November, then game on...just like 2020...
You think because the cheat will be "harder" somehow, that this will get Trump in the White House again? So when the MSM and Dems say that Biden got 85-90 million votes, because they counted all of those "mail-in" ballots, that somehow the GOP voters are going to all get together and say' "Nope, this is not right." and that the authorities and legislatures and justices are going to be on the GOP's side to get Trump back?
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Probably about +4 to +5 for the Democrat since Quinnipiac leans left and always has.

But it goes to show, MAGA can win primaries, but they are toxic in the general because in MAGA, the loudest, craziest voice is the one which they fall in love with. In the general, most people see a whack job and won't vote for him or her.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
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Robinson is great. He's not crazy or a whack job. The brainwashed masses think he's crazy because pravda says he's crazy. Don't want to send another hundred billion dollars to Ukraine? You're crazy. You think the American government should put American citizens first? You're crazy. Don't think biological males should compete in female sports? You're crazy. You think late-term abortion is crazy? No. You're the crazy one. "Far right wing extremist" "ultra maga republicans" are only crazy because pravda says so, and the mobs and echo chambers on reddit, x, fb, etc. repeat it over and over and over.
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Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again
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LMCane said:

Biden now leading Trump to win the Presidency in majority of polls and online betting.

We told you so.

The country is collapsing and 82 year old Biden still beats Trump again
Nice.
Newsweek.
Propaganda.
LOL.
TDS fully deployed.
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And yes a child authored the Newsweek article. Nice follow there with an experienced rational reporter.
LOL.

https://www.newsweek.com/authors/kate-plummer



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Kate Plummer

Kate Plummer is a Newsweek reporter based in London, U.K. Her focus is on U.S. politics and national affairs, and she is particularly interested in the impact of social policy decisions on people as well as the finances of political campaigns, corruption, foreign policy, democratic processes and more. Prior to joining Newsweek, she covered U.K. politics extensively.

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I got the most important poll of 2024 right here:


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