"There Is No Climate Crisis"

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Total BS. The feedback signals from water vapor DWARF the minuscule potential warming from carbon dioxide. In fact, not only does water vapor overlap most of the IR spectral absorption of CO2, the latent effects are negative feedbacks that more than offset CO2 absorption. Go learn some actual physics and thermodynamics.
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So, let's recap:

So, you've admitted that the atmosphere drives weather, not climate.

You've admitted that all of the agency climate data that is used drive political policy is faked...sorry, fudged.

You've also admitted that water vapor is the most important greenhouse gas

And yet, you cling to the discredited hypothesis that CO2 drives the climate, yet always cite weather phenomenon to support your propaganda.

That's FOUR strikes. You're OUT. You're a climate charlatan, and you should be ashamed of yourself if you had any shame.
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wxmanX said:

Shiner Ag, go learn some physics, please.
It is so basic a 5th grader can understand it.

In fact, they have known about co2 and global warming since the 1800s.

"In 1859, Tyndall showed that gases including carbon dioxide and water vapour can absorb heat. His heat source was not the Sun, but radiation from a copper cube containing boiling water. In modern terms, this was infrared radiation just like that emanating from the Earth's surface."

Why do you think it warmer on a cloudy night? H2O is absorbing the IR.
CO2 keeps going up and is doing the exact same thing.









Your posted article, a typical NASA hit job, even mentions this dude thought London was a heat island. Even then he knew that temperatures are artificially inflated in densely packed rock/concrete urban areas so it skews the data to "hottest on record". NASA and NOAA use this same raw data to show we are now boiling.

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Captain Pablo
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Dang, a slew of posts got deleted. Didn't see anything controversial except when somebody called someone else an a-hole
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Captain Pablo said:

Dang, a slew of posts got deleted. Didn't see anything controversial except when somebody called someone else an a-hole
Yeah, that'll do it...
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agent-maroon said:

Captain Pablo said:

Dang, a slew of posts got deleted. Didn't see anything controversial except when somebody called someone else an a-hole
Yeah, that'll do it...


Yeah but that was just one post
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Captain Pablo said:

agent-maroon said:

Captain Pablo said:

Dang, a slew of posts got deleted. Didn't see anything controversial except when somebody called someone else an a-hole
Yeah, that'll do it...


Yeah but that was just one post


Yep, several substantive posts were removed.
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Imagine believing pigs can fly. Now imagine that you take the time and effort to go to Texags to convince other people that pigs can fly. When they prove you wrong, you start calling them names because you can't make them believe that pigs can fly.

Awesome.
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You didn't see the story on the news? The "trend" is this summer pigs in Iowa have jumped higher than EVER in the history of pigs...
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And BTHO new Mexico
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New Study: Up To 87% Of Modern Warming Can Be Explained By Variations In Solar Activity

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Nearly all of the alleged anthropogenic link to climate change can be removed simply by exchanging and/or replacing biased temperature and solar activity data sets.

A new study authored by 37 scientists in the journal Climate finds using rural-only Northern Hemisphere temperature data (i.e., removing artificial, non-climatic urban heat effects) reduces the post-1850 warming trend from 0.89C per century to 0.55C per century.

Further, using a total solar irradiance (TSI) dataset neglected by the IPCC (Hoyt and Schatten, 1993, updated to present) allows TSI to explain up to 87% of modern warming.

Variations in cloud cover, albedo, and natural ocean circulations may also be factors arising from internal climate variability that could explain modern climate changes.

In summary, then, much of modern global warming's alleged link to human activity may have been formulated by selecting data that align with the hypothesis, and neglecting or dismissing data which do not.
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But who are we going to give all our money to so we can stop the 13%.

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Bearpitbull
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Another option:

Humans are impacting the climate because we are bad stewards of the planet. The vast majority of scientists believe this and we should take note and act reasonably to impact it.

The vast majority of liberals use this topic to sell their anti-business, anti-capitalism fake utopian nonsense that will kill us another way.

The art form for a successful future is to work on point #1 without falling for point #2
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watch video please and learn something.

Here is the atmospheric forcing from co2. Yes, it is log, but log function still a ton of heating. If we get to 600 ppm that would be another 4 w/m^2 from 1800 baseline before industrial revolution.

Add the other greenhouse gases, excluding H20 and you even get more heating.

Add the heating of the planet, and you release more H2O gas into atmosphere which makes it even worse.

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There is no man made climate change. Still.
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I'll repost is again since it didn't sink in the first time (not that I expect this time to be different):

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wxmanX
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whatever, you guys won't ever figure it out anyway.

108F later this week Dallas, never been this hot this late in the season.

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Hey, look! A single hot weather event PROVES gorebull warming (i.e., klimate change) but cold weather is, just, weather.
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wxmanX said:

whatever, you guys won't ever figure it out anyway.

108F later this week Dallas, never been this hot this late in the season.


"never" Quit lying and prove it, give us the temp data for the last 250k years.
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wxmanX said:

whatever, you guys won't ever figure it out anyway.

108F later this week Dallas, never been this hot this late in the season.


Cope and take the L

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wxmanX said:

whatever, you guys won't ever figure it out anyway.

108F later this week Dallas, never been this hot this late in the season.



Whatever, you won't stop being brainwashed by the leftists handbook.
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Plus, it really is amazing what you can find if you just look a little bit. Let's say the September 5th record of 107F is broken, here is more context without cherry picking the facts:
Dallas September Weather



It's "NEVER" been this hot this late is blatantly false.



And this is with tampered "adjusted" data.
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wxmanX said:

whatever, you guys won't ever figure it out anyway.

108F later this week Dallas, never been this hot this late in the season.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!

Lived in Dallas only since 1982 and I know thats wrong.

How about Sep 4, 2000 the record high at DFW was 110.

Here are all of the record highs for September. Several days have a record of 107+ and the entire month has records highs in the 100s which we are not going to break as it looks like the forecast is below 100 after Friday for the foreseeable future.

so dumb.

EDIT - just saw the post above mine showing the same data.



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See a few 1939s on that list, is it a sign…
wxmanX
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108F after Sept 8th has never happened.

Also, this was the hottest summer ever across the south, as mentioned many times on this thread.

ShinerAggie
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Once again, using a hot weather event as "proof" of "climate" change. Guess you didn't notice the 107F record for September 13th. While not 108F, it is very close and argues that this hot weather spell isn't even unusual in the short recorded history of Dallas weather.

Besides, if that temperature is recorded at the DFW airport, then it is very suspect. This article states the official weather observation station at DFW International Airport is off of runway 17C:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/curious-texas/2019/02/27/why-are-official-weather-records-taken-at-dfw-airport-curious-texas-heads-out-to-the-runway/

Here is a Google Earth view of that station...in the middle of a cleared field surrounded by asphalt/concrete and jet/prop wash:


All that aside, it's interesting that the NWS at DFW International airport is not calling for record temps:


Even in the surrounding areas, only temperatures to 105F are mentioned in the heat advisory:


Heat indices might reach 110F in places, but that is not an actual temperature. Regardless, it is a weather event in a metropolitan area with UHI, not indication of global warming.

Just admit that there is no amount of contrary data or analysis that will ever shake your faith in the climate change scam.

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Hey Shiner Aggie,

Let's me up for a beer and discuss in person.

I would love it.

Cheers.

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wxmanX said:

108F after Sept 8th has never happened.

Also, this was the hottest summer ever across the south, as mentioned many times on this thread.


Link?
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wxmanX said:

108F after Sept 8th has never happened.

Also, this was the hottest summer ever across the south, as mentioned many times on this thread.



And?

It's September 5th so..... what's your point?

I don't see a forecast for anything hotter than that either.

Way to prove my point.
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winter is coming, right......
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tk for tu juan said:

See a few 1939s on that list, is it a sign…
Not to mention that the level of urbanization before mid-century was nowhere NEAR what it is today.
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wxmanX said:

108F after Sept 8th has never happened.

Also, this was the hottest summer ever across the south, as mentioned many times on this thread.


Also just 18 months ago we had one of the longest prolonged cold periods below freezing. 139 hours straight and 232 hours in a 10 day stretch. And Feb 16 2021 was the 2nd coldest day EVER for DFW (assuming the 1899 record was accurate)!!!!!

OMG another ice age is coming!!!!!!!!!

Record are set all the time, everywhere. It is a sign of....nothing.

Get you head out of the sand.
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yes, but trend is up everywhere, especially oceans.

Warmest 2023 on record in the oceans.
Warmest June-August on record worldwide.



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wxmanX said:

Warmest 2023 on record in the oceans.

How many timelines are you living in?
Rockdoc
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Are you familiar with climate fluctuations throughout geologic time?
 
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