Charpie said:

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Why do we blame schools?

WHERE THE HELL ARE THE PARENTS?

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The conservative ones are still involved.
The liberal ones are preyed on by educators like the OP.

Public school is no longer about education, it's about indoctrination into the party.
And i blame schools, because they are deliberately kowtowing to the democrat party using tax dollars.

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Marginal income taxes are substantially lower than they were in the 70s.

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deddog said:

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Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Marginal income taxes are substantially lower than they were in the 70s.

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So? Perhaps they were ridiculously high in the 70s. You disagree that folks shouldn't be keeping more of their money?

Admiral Adama said:

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deddog said:

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Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Marginal income taxes are substantially lower than they were in the 70s.

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Yep, that is a pretty weak retort. The younger generations are undoubtably weak and brainwashed by social media. But it hasn't been a great 20 years for them to grow up in and that has colored their opinions. It was much easier to " have it all" 30 years ago. Quality of life has improved in silly ways (cheaper and better TVs, Internet, etc). But the important stuff that people took for granted are much harder to attain (home that is less than 3X your paycheck, single income household with multiple kids, etc).

A lot of it has to do with the fact there are simply more people now and wealth has gotten a lot more concentrated over the past 30 years. Don't know what you do about that but if you look at the data, it is a clear trend.

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Ahh the classic conservative strategy. If you can't win em over take their right to vote! Worked for y'all with women and African Americans for a long time.

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You mean the Democratic Party, right?

Yes when the Democratic Party were the conservatives they were awful. Now that the Republicans are conservative they're awful. Make sense?

AggieCo2023 said:

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Yes when the Democratic Party were the conservatives they were awful. Now that the Republicans are conservative they're awful. Make sense?

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When did this "switch" take place?

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Admiral Adama said:

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deddog said:

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Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Marginal income taxes are substantially lower than they were in the 70s.

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So? Perhaps they were ridiculously high in the 70s. You disagree that folks shouldn't be keeping more of their money?

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I think tax rates are probably fine as it is, with the exception of loopholes that Megacorp gets to pay nothing in federal taxes while small businesses get to write a check to the US treasury on their profits every year. Id clean that up and even the playing field.

Apart from that my point is that it's financially substantially harder being a young adult today than it was in the 70s. Not sure why we can't agree on that without suggesting that the solution is socialism.

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AggieCo2023 said:

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Keep calling these younger generations stupid and clueless I'm sure this will convince them to come around to your world view!

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You are not open to other points of view. You posting style makes that obvious.

BTW: Well, you are. So clueless you are marching straight off a cliff. You even celebrate it. When this is over, your ilk will be known as the "Clueless Generation" that destroyed America.

Just contrast your bunch to the young men that fought WW2.

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Just take delight that his worthless, unskilled generation will be cannon fodder for the front lines when the war comes too.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Keep calling these younger generations stupid and clueless I'm sure this will convince them to come around to your world view!

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Once they realize how much damage democrat policies causes, and how much it sucks ass to pay taxes and watch it get set on fire, that will convince them

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AggieCo2023 said:

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Ahh the classic conservative strategy. If you can't win em over take their right to vote! Worked for y'all with women and African Americans for a long time.

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What would it take to win over Gen Z? Abortion on demand up to and sometimes after birth? I am sure they would have some other extreme demands as well. I don't think that is the group that should be pandered to. If that's the type of radicalized group that has to be "won over" to win elections in this country, then we truly do need some type of peaceful divorce.

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This

They want Bernie level leftist extremism of unlimited abortions, all guns confiscated, free housing, food, healthcare guaranteed income, 90% tax rates on everyone but them etc so there's nothing any sane ideology can offer them and they will burn the country to the ground trying to achieve the Libtopia

Happened over time. FDR was a progressive Democrat who obviously massively expanded the size of government. Then Kennedy and LBJ pushing the Civil Rights Act as Democrats in the 60's caused more switching. Finally the Religious Conservatives becoming firmly Republican during the Reagan era in the 80's.

Admiral Adama said:

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deddog said:

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Admiral Adama said:

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deddog said:

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Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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Sounds like a case for lowering income taxes and government spending, so that people get to keep more of their hard earned money.

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Marginal income taxes are substantially lower than they were in the 70s.

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So? Perhaps they were ridiculously high in the 70s. You disagree that folks shouldn't be keeping more of their money?

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I think tax rates are probably fine as it is, with the exception of loopholes that Megacorp gets to pay nothing in federal taxes while small businesses get to write a check to the US treasury on their profits every year. Id clean that up and even the playing field.

Apart from that my point is that it's financially substantially harder being a young adult today than it was in the 70s. Not sure why we can't agree on that without suggesting that the solution is socialism.

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Financially much harder for younger folks, no question.

Completely disagree on Megacorp who pay "nothing" in federal taxes. To me that's an intellectually lazy response (not specifically by you, but used extensively by politicians). Makes no sense.
Taxing corporations is taxing people. Costs are almost always borne by the customer.

There are a myriad of problems, and having corporations give more money to the government to mismanage, is possibly the the worst option out there. When has giving more taxes to the government ever solved the root cause of anything?

AggieCo2023 said:

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Keep calling these younger generations stupid and clueless I'm sure this will convince them to come around to your world view!

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If the shoe fits…

AggieCo2023 said:

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Yes when the Democratic Party were the conservatives they were awful. Now that the Republicans are conservative they're awful. Make sense?

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Yeah so open minded. No this is the real you-- drive by drivel then you complain all these Meanies talking down to you instead of trying to discuss an issue. Remember that's the line you threw out on page 1 of this thread.

Then you, again, get your clueless yet highly opinionated head kicked in.

Edit: See Phil's repost above ^

The Supreme Court ruled that for the purpose of campaign contributions corporations are 'people' have the right to free speech. If corporations get free speech, because they are people then they can ****ing pay taxes like people too. This country doesn't get to talk out of both sides of its mouth where corporations can both pay to peddle influence in Congress because free speech and then say that they aren't really people when it comes time to fund infrastructure they use.

Either way, it's a technocratic problem. OK so corporations are not people. Fine, set the corporate tax rate to zero and tax dividends to shareholders as ordinary income. Net positive benefit to the treasury. Or they are people OK fine, MegaCorp gets to pay the same tax rate as the local florist.

Answer your question of when did giving money to the government solve any problems, my answer is that elderly homelessness is near zero from the great depression, we won World War II, we sent a man to the moon, and a few other minor accomplishments off the top of my head

Dan Scott said:

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ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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I can tell you were not around then. I was. Mortgage rates were often north of 10% Not many were buying houses. BTW those houses on average were much smaller than what we see today. They had a term for it stag-flation and gas was about 6.00 adjusted for inflation.

Cutting government spending is hard. Government spending is now 25% of GDP. It's crazy how much spending has increased and things are crappier. Government spending keeps the economy going unless we decided to take our medicine for a few years. But that just means people under 30 likely get screwed again and makes them bigger socialist.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Happened over time. FDR was a progressive Democrat who obviously massively expanded the size of government. Then Kennedy and LBJ pushing the Civil Rights Act as Democrats in the 60's caused more switching. Finally the Religious Conservatives becoming firmly Republican during the Reagan era in the 80's.

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so a switch never took place. Got it.

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The Supreme Court ruled that for the purpose of campaign contributions corporations are 'people' have the right to free speech. If corporations get free speech, because they are people then they can ****ing pay taxes like people too. This country doesn't get to talk out of both sides of its mouth where corporations can both pay to pedal influence in Congress and then say that they aren't really people when it comes time to fund infrastructure they use.

Either way, it's a technocratic problem. OK so corporations are not people. Fine, set the corporate tax rate to zero and tax dividends to shareholders as ordinary income. Net positive benefit to the treasury. Or they are people OK fine, MegaCorp gets to pay the same tax rate as the local florist.

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You act like Corporations don't pay taxes at all. That's simply untrue.
Do Mega corporations manipulate the tax code? Absolutely.
A large number of corps do pay taxes, and when you increase corporate taxes, companies start to move to different parts of the world, the biggest difference between the 70s and now

The answer is simplifying the tax code, the root of the problem, so it gets harder for large corps to buy off politicians.

I like the idea of reducing taxes on Corporations and separately treating all income as ordinary income.
And a flat tax. for the same reason.

Simplifying the tax code makes it harder to cheat and manipulate

Earn more, pay more. Don't distinguish between capital gains, dividends and income.

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Cutting government spending is hard. Government spending is now 25% of GDP. It's crazy how much spending has increased and things are crappier. Government spending keeps the economy going unless we decided to take our medicine for a few years. But that just means people under 30 likely get screwed again and makes them bigger socialist.

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Isn't it odd people embrace what made them sick to begin with.

How can you argue a switch never took place? How did the segregationists, KKK members and confederates of old become the multi-racial BLM party if no switch ever happened? Please explain

Dan Scott said:

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Cutting government spending is hard. Government spending is now 25% of GDP. It's crazy how much spending has increased and things are crappier. Government spending keeps the economy going unless we decided to take our medicine for a few years. But that just means people under 30 likely get screwed again and makes them bigger socialist.

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This is an economic fallacy. Government produces nothing.
Bureaucracy makes corporations inefficient. It creates "jobs" that aren't economically valuable.

I can spend more to produce a better widget and make it more efficient, or i can spend more hiring CPAs and auditors to deal with bureaucrats and laws.

AggieCo2023 said:

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This policy would absolutely destroy Republican voters, whose base is 70 year rural whites on Social Security, Medicare and VA benefits. All "government money"

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All programs these people paid into all their working lives, without a choice by the way. Far different than the blood sucking parasites who collect handouts during their prime adult years because they don't feel they should have to earn a living. Is this an example of your critical thinking ability? Explains a lot.

I'm actually for cutting benefits as long as it also applies to the trailer park residents who whine and complain about "mehh big government" all while collecting Medicaid, Foodstamps and Unemployment.

AggieCo2023 said:

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How can you argue a switch never took place? How did the segregationists, KKK members and confederates of old become the multi-racial BLM party if no switch ever happened? Please explain

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This has been answered previously. They became the "BLM" party when they realized they can use that to gain support/power. This has nothing to do with the Republican Party.

Your simplistic mindset implies that the republicans were actually the democrats and vis versa.

ttu_85 said:

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Dan Scott said:

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I feel like the youth group is more engaged in politics now. Once you get deep enough it's harder to reverse. In the past youth could be liberal but not fully engaged and as they got older and start to care they are at a different mindset than current 18-20 year old.

Also can't blame people under 30 for being against capitalism. Those people experience financial crisis. We had 10% unemployment and over 10 million homes foreclosed. Banks got bailed out and richer and more powerful today. Those 10 million homeowners that were foreclosed got nothing. Then wealth gap widens throughout 2010s. Then COVID which distorted everything. And here we are with inflation today which if you're younger probably impacts you more because you're making less money.

If I'm under 30, have lots of debt, can't afford kids, can't afford houses, no more job security, I'd be pissed off too.

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Weak sauce !!!. the 70's with very high interest rates, inflation, political fumbling (Carter) were FAR worse.

We didn't go candy-assed socialistic. We went to the right. Got a first hand demo of leftist failures that in time brought us Reagan and into the light

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Based off the numbers, the 70s were better time still for young people than today. 1980 median income was around $21K. Adjusted for inflation thats $77K. Median house in 1980 was about $47K. Adjusted for inflation thats about $175K

Today median income in US is about $70K and median home price in Texas is $325K and USA is $400K. Americans today make roughly the same they did in 1980 except their cost of living is much higher. That's not good for society.

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I can tell you were not around then. I was. Mortgage rates were often north of 10% Not many were buying houses. BTW those houses on average were much smaller than what we see today. They had a term for it stag-flation and gas was about 6.00 adjusted for inflation.

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Wasn't around and I get higher rates. But there's also cars, education, medical, etc that are better today but at the same time more expensive. Life is more complex today than 1980. There's minimum people need to have a decent life. The amount of that minimum is higher today and greater % of income. As things have gotten bigger and better, they've also gotten more expensive in relation to income since then.

https://katv.com/amp/news/local/gov-sanders-requested-a-100-percent-federal-cost-share-for-tornado-clean-up-arkansas-clean-up-help-lots-damage-emergency-peronnel-volunteers-recovery-process-survivors-survey-damages-pulaski-cross-lonoke-little-rock-sherwood-west-lr-money-information


Like this awful woman. Rails against big government then as soon as she needs the money goes crying to Biden begging for handouts. Cut these Red State moochers off and let them make it on their own.

I completely agree with simplifying the tax code, and making almost everything ordinary income. I'm a bleeding heart and think poor people should pay less as a percentage of their income as rich people and don't mind the marginal rate being some thing like 10% on the first 50,000 and more than that after that. Everyone has skin in the game but the poor have an additional hand up from the government to better their lot.

Do Southern Conservative Whites who hold racial bias against Blacks today vote predominantly Republican or Democrat?

Admiral Adama said:

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I completely agree with simplifying the tax code, and making almost everything ordinary income. I'm a bleeding heart and think poor people should pay less as a percentage of their income as rich people and don't mind the marginal rate being some thing like 10% on the first 50,000 and more than that after that. Everyone has skin in the game but the poor have an additional hand up from the government to better their lot.

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Flat tax.
2 rates.
One for the "poor"
One for everyone else.

Everyone pays the same rate. You earn more, you pay more (in $$)
And now you have an incentive to get better.
And the poor have skin in the game, they might actually start caring how the government spends their dollars.

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Dan Scott said:

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Cutting government spending is hard. Government spending is now 25% of GDP. It's crazy how much spending has increased and things are crappier. Government spending keeps the economy going unless we decided to take our medicine for a few years. But that just means people under 30 likely get screwed again and makes them bigger socialist.

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Isn't it odd people embrace what made them sick to begin with.

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It's called addiction and US economy is addicted to government spending. A huge part of the increase in GDP is correlated to the increase in spending.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Do Southern Conservative Whites who hold racial bias against Blacks today vote predominantly Republican or Democrat?

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Do you northeastern blacks, who hold prejudice against whites, vote predominantly republican or democrat? We all know the answers to both questions, neither are especially helpful at bettering in the nation.