AggieCo2023 said:

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Do Southern Conservative Whites who hold racial bias against Blacks today vote predominantly Republican or Democrat?

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You tell me.
Regardless, there was never a switch. You went back to the 1800s to try and prove a point with something factually incorrect to boot.

Sign me up

AggieCo2023 said:

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Do Southern Conservative Whites who hold racial bias against Blacks today vote predominantly Republican or Democrat?

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Define racial bias and give us some metrics. And do those southern conservatives feel race relations are better or worse than 15 years ago?

Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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There are at least 3 people, who can't seem to comprehend the English language

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Yeap... one person clearly says "less knowledge and experience" and another interprets that as "Stupid."

The other day I pointed out that this same poster was using the same logic to kill babies that Nazi's used to get rid of 'undesirables'. I was told not to call people Nazi. Comprehension is very very difficult for this generation. They view everything through the "I want to be offended and be offensive" lens before anything else. It skews their ability to comprehend anything.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Can you list the people in Congress who switched, since you seem so certain it happened, Mr. School Teacher?

AggieCo2023 said:

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Happened over time. FDR was a progressive Democrat who obviously massively expanded the size of government. Then Kennedy and LBJ pushing the Civil Rights Act as Democrats in the 60's caused more switching. Finally the Religious Conservatives becoming firmly Republican during the Reagan era in the 80's.

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Which legislators switched in this period of "more switching"? I can only think of one, but maybe you have a longer list.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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I voted for Joseph Robinette Biden. Brandishing those unimpeachable liberal credentials, I take umbrage that you think that racism today fits in this neat little paradigm of white people that don't like Black people. The whole trope of progressivism favored by minorities and primarily coastal whites, looks upon whiteness itself with suspicion, which is in and of itself actually racist.

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Cutting government spending is hard. Government spending is now 25% of GDP. It's crazy how much spending has increased and things are crappier. Government spending keeps the economy going unless we decided to take our medicine for a few years. But that just means people under 30 likely get screwed again and makes them bigger socialist.

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This is an economic fallacy. Government produces nothing.
Bureaucracy makes corporations inefficient. It creates "jobs" that aren't economically valuable.

I can spend more to produce a better widget and make it more efficient, or i can spend more hiring CPAs and auditors to deal with bureaucrats and laws.

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I don't disagree that government doesn't produce anything but it indirectly boost the economy. Hoover Dam for example because I just watched a documentary. It was a jobs program. Anybody unemployed and willing went West to work. If you were in concrete business, you made a lot of money and all those jobs created a self perpetuating revenue base. At that time no private company could do that.

The problem we don't spend smart anymore .I don't know WTF we spend money on. There are about 3M federal employees or a little under 5% of US employees work for federal government. I don't know what they do but they receive salary and spend it in the economy. It's a giant jobs program.

And I 100% agree with the last paragraph. A lot of Dodd-a Frank goes into effect next year. The compliance work is a PIA that is no value add. But the counter is that lawyers making money and accountant making money. People better used elsewhere but those are new jobs now.

Takes some very impressive mental gymnastics to sit here under Joe Biden's presidency and claim the old, racists segregators wouldn't be democrats today

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Republicans typical strategy of insulting young voters

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Gonna need examples.

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Takes some very impressive mental gymnastics to sit here under Joe Biden's presidency and claim the old, racists segregators wouldn't be democrats today

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What? no it doesn't. Actual racist white people who don't like Black people voted almost overwhelmingly Republican. Actual racist white people that don't like white people and actual racist Black people that don't like white people voted overwhelmingly democrat. No magical thinking is needed to say that there are racists amongst us, and that those racists tend to vote in the same tribal bands. This is one of the easiest possible things to concede. Just because an ahole votes for the guy you like does not make you an ahole too.

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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The same modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party that supports:

1.) Abortion on demand, which has killed millions of black babies and holds people like Margret Sanger in the highest regard.

2.) Implemented and created economic policies that have absolutely destroyed the nuclear family structure of blacks over the last 50-60 years. You would say that this is just a result of "privilege", but you will conveniently forget and ignore the success of Asian Americans, you know, a group of people that were vehemently and near universally hated in America thanks to WW2, Korea, and Vietnam, or even more applicable, blacks from Africa who outperform their American counterparts.

3.) Has convinced black Americans that they are not actually black unless they vote for Democrats, as stated by the current moron in chief, who gave the eulogy for an actual KKK grand wizard.

4.) Makes race the center of everything and anything, to the point that we have now reverted back to "separate but equal" style segregation.

5.) Minimum wage laws, which disproportionately affects low-skilled workers, preventing them from gaining meaningful employment to gain skills and advance in the work force.

You don't think that the Jim Crow Democrats would be on board with that platform?

That removes all doubt about "stupid and clueless"...

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Literally no one is as racist as white liberals, especially the ones yelling the loudest about "anti-racism". Not in America, anyway.

My multi-racial family has lived on each coast, in deep blue areas, and in deep red Texas areas. I am fully aware of how much race is used to define them in each.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Ahh the classic conservative strategy. If you can't win em over take their right to vote! Worked for y'all with women and African Americans for a long time.

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Prepare for a hard landing.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Democrats in every age, think they are right. And they have consistently been on the wrong side of history.

This is true for the Democrat segregationists.
This is true for those who passed Jim Crow laws.
This is true for Democrats pushing socialism.
This is true for Democrats who say gun control and Defunding the Police is the answer to black youth being murdered
This is true for Democrats who think it's ok to chop of kids genitals and expose them to trans freaks.
And this is true for those who support the killing of black babies in the womb.

Its completely predictable, that 20, 30 years from now, when history looks back at you and your ilk with utter disgrace and contempt, AggieCo2053 will claim that all those who supported those 2020 policies would be "republican today"

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AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Can you list the people in Congress who switched, since you seem so certain it happened, Mr. School Teacher?

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Most of them have retired seeing as they switched about 40 years ago
Currently Senator Kennedy of LA iirc is the only current office holder who,started his career as a D
Prior notable switches
Sen Gramm of Texas
Gov Perry of Texas
Senator Richard Shelby of Alabama who prior to Doug Jones was the last Democrat to win state wide office in Alabama

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Lol. My Mom's family is from rural South Carolina and they are almost all hardcore Democrats. You know nothing about those folks.

They talk about black people like they are pets or something, it's really odd. They think they are compassionate and have an air of superiority but its all fundamentally racist, real racism not the made up garbage you think you know about. It's a deep built in psychology that's hard to explain. I never could understand how they voted for Obama based on what they would say but they all did, it's like they decided he wasn't really black or he was "one of the good ones", their loyalty to Party is absolute and even though they were conservative on most issues they would never, every vote for a Republican.

You should really read up on LBJ and what he really cared about and his real motivations behind the Great Society, it's downright sociopathic. All he ever cared about was power and creating a voting block, he was a pure politician and incredibly corrupt. Careful though, once you learn the truth you can't unsee it and that is why they call it the Red Pill. God help you if you read some Thomas Sowell.

FrioAg 00 said:

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Literally no one is as racist as white liberals, especially the ones yelling the loudest about "anti-racism". Not in America, anyway.

My multi-racial family has lived on each coast, in deep blue areas, and in deep red Texas areas. I am fully aware of how much race is used to define them in each.

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Look man, I'm not saying this to throw any shade or do anything other than share my personal experience as a guy that grew up in California and attended Texas A&M. I heard actual racist stuff in Texas in college that I've never heard in California. My grandparents were both Texans and I assure you that 3/4 said racist stuff, sometimes appalling stuff. That's not to say that they are not racists in Boston or LA or that maybe it's worse there, just that in my personal experience, the volume of it was higher in Texas than in California.

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I didn't say it wasn't. I said it was CONSERVATIVES. The Democratic Party used to be the party of conservatives. It has since changed.

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That's the lies you have been taught.

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Literally no one is as racist as white liberals, especially the ones yelling the loudest about "anti-racism". Not in America, anyway.

My multi-racial family has lived on each coast, in deep blue areas, and in deep red Texas areas. I am fully aware of how much race is used to define them in each.

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Look man, I'm not saying this to throw any shade or do anything other than share my personal experience as a guy that grew up in California and attended Texas A&M. I heard actual racist stuff in Texas in college that I've never heard in California. My grandparents were both Texans and I assure you that 3/4 said racist stuff, sometimes appalling stuff. That's not to say that they are not racists in Boston or LA or that maybe it's worse there, just that in my personal experience, the volume of it was higher in Texas than in California.

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That only applies if you don't think racism against whites or asians is possible.

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AggieCo2023 said:

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I didn't say it wasn't. I said it was CONSERVATIVES. The Democratic Party used to be the party of conservatives. It has since changed.

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That's the lies you have been taught.

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Correct, its a myth that has been debunked with ACTUAL data, and research, not feelings.

AggieCo2023 said:

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Ahh the classic conservative strategy. If you can't win em over take their right to vote! Worked for y'all with women and African Americans for a long time.

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So tell us your a Marxist with telling us your a Marxist

I saw a lot more on the east coast, a little less in norcal, and the least by far in Texas.

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Admiral Adama said:

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FrioAg 00 said:

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Literally no one is as racist as white liberals, especially the ones yelling the loudest about "anti-racism". Not in America, anyway.

My multi-racial family has lived on each coast, in deep blue areas, and in deep red Texas areas. I am fully aware of how much race is used to define them in each.

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Look man, I'm not saying this to throw any shade or do anything other than share my personal experience as a guy that grew up in California and attended Texas A&M. I heard actual racist stuff in Texas in college that I've never heard in California. My grandparents were both Texans and I assure you that 3/4 said racist stuff, sometimes appalling stuff. That's not to say that they are not racists in Boston or LA or that maybe it's worse there, just that in my personal experience, the volume of it was higher in Texas than in California.

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That only applies if you don't think racism against whites or asians is possible.

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If you read my previous post, I think I'm fairly clear in my distain about progressives and how I think that they are actual racists. I have experienced anti-white discrimination in California. That said, dropping the N-word or referring to people that don't like spending money by a major world religion were things that I did hear in Texas that I have never heard in California. Please don't misunderstand this comment as me saying that there were racists everywhere, or that it was a common every day occurrence, it was just some thing that I noticed was way more prevalent in one place versus the other.

AggieCo2023 said:

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I didn't say it wasn't. I said it was CONSERVATIVES. The Democratic Party used to be the party of conservatives. It has since changed.

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Wrong, the Democrat party has always been the party of racist ****bag progressives and always will be. Their strategy may have changed but not their goals. The party flip theory has been debunked long ago. Just stop all the lying, progressives's habitual lying is tearing this country apart!

If the young arent educated by their parents then the young will learn the hard way that being pro-big government will plunge them into a world of tyranny and limited freedom(if any). They will regret it but young people arent known for being wise. We were all young once. There are few who will not admit to being young and stupid and making bad choices in their young adult years. The decisions they make that influence elections will be disastrous for them.

Glad this world is not my home.

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We should just raise the voting age to 35. Most of these indoctrinated morons will have learned in the real world what is what by then.

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At the age of 25 I was flying off a carrier as a Naval Aviator.....I was in "the real world".....
Measure your words...

In my experience, in Texas the very few times I heard racism it was more direct. The guy a the firework stand called a huge firecracker n word chasers. In San Jose my example was more indirect. A realtor showing a hirise unit next door had a black dude living and he came out as we were entering the unit and the realtor promptly told us the people here are educated and work mostly in finance and tech.

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Keep calling these younger generations stupid and clueless I'm sure this will convince them to come around to your world view!

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I said no such thing, jr.

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I'll say it....They are stupid and clueless.....and it's not only in Wisconsin!

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Just look at Chicago. They showed Lightfoot the door and then voted in a bigger lefty loon than her. So how will they explain the inevitable failings of the new mayor?

Oh yeah...racism...

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Stupid people, mainly white liberals, continue vote for their own demise!

It's incredible!

Didn't OP tell us one time that he owns like 10 rental properties? But now he's a teacher? And he graduated this year?

OP also told us that Tesla is done for.

A lying leftist that has no idea how anything in the real world works. I'm shocked!

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This country would be fixed after one or two election cycles if you just made a law that said if you take ANY form of government money, it comes at the expense of your vote (segregated by federal, state, and local as applicable).

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I take the following government money
- Social Security (I've paid into it since I was 16)
- Medicare (Ditto)
- a Military Pension ( I guess that makes me a true Moocher here at Forum 16)

Can I still vote now?

AggieCo2023 said:

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Y'all are just lying if you think the Jim Crow Democrats of the early to mid 20th century would support the modern day ultra liberal Democratic Party of today. Hell there are many of them still alive today and most if not all vote Republican.

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Both parties have plenty of racists. It doesn't come in one shade.

HarryJ33tamu said:

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Didn't OP tell us one time that he owns like 10 rental properties? But now he's a teacher? And he graduated this year?

OP also told us that Tesla is done for.

A lying leftist that has no idea how anything in the real world works. I'm shocked!

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You just described every lib educator. My guess would be English teacher, they tend to be rabid Marxists