Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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I don't defend any country but ours. Why do you defend Russia's aggression?
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GAC06 said:

I don't defend any country but ours. Why do you defend Russia's aggression?


I've watched you go to keyboard war for Ukraine for over a year. I'm not sure who you think will believe this hogwash.
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A million Ukraine soldiers have died in the last 2.5 years.

How much money has the military industry in America made, off the death of Ukraine soldiers?

Sure glad those billions are being used for something.

Lord knows those billions spent here in America would be wasted on booze, drugs and strippers.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I don't defend any country but ours. Why do you defend Russia's aggression?


I've watched you go to keyboard war for Ukraine for over a year. I'm not sure who you think will believe this hogwash.


Me criticizing Russia's invasion is "keyboard war" but you cheerleading for them is totally normal. Crawfish harder.
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GAC06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I don't defend any country but ours. Why do you defend Russia's aggression?


I've watched you go to keyboard war for Ukraine for over a year. I'm not sure who you think will believe this hogwash.


Me criticizing Russia's invasion is "keyboard war" but you cheerleading for them is totally normal. Crawfish harder.



We're getting closer. Why do you criticize Russia's invasion? Can you answer while "only defending the USA?" We weren't invaded….

Whether you admit it or not, you're defending the most corrupt country in Europe. I just wish you would tell us why instead of lying about doing it.
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I'm pretty consistently against wars of aggression/territorial expansion.

Why do you cheerlead for them?
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GAC06 said:

I'm pretty consistently against wars of aggression/territorial expansion.

Why do you cheerlead for them?


Previously, you said you only defended the US, but now you're saying you would oppose anyone who has invaded another. That's neat how it shifted, albeit subtly.
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You're really bad at this, it's kind of sad. I defend our nation. I criticize Russia's unprovoked invasion. You… deflect and continue defending (in the sense that you don't actually put anything on the line) Russia
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GAC06 said:

You're really bad at this, it's kind of sad. I defend our nation. I criticize Russia's unprovoked invasion. You… deflect and continue defending (in the sense that you don't actually put anything on the line) Russia


Do you actually believe "criticizing Russia's invasion" is substantially different from defending Ukraine? Could you articulate the differences more clearly?
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What's the difference between posting on the internet and actually defending something? Bless your heart.
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GAC06 said:

What's the difference between posting on the internet and actually defending something? Bless your heart.


It's actually 2 different meanings for the same word. Maybe this will help you.

Defend
verb
resist an attack made on (someone or something); protect from harm or danger. (This is what you did for the USA)

speak or write in favor of (an action or person); attempt to justify (this is what you do you everyday for Ukraine, I just wanted to know why)

conduct the case for (the party being accused or sued) in a lawsuit.
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Now apply that scrutiny to your defense of Russia. Keyboard defense, obviously
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GAC06 said:

Now apply that scrutiny to your defense of Russia. Keyboard defense, obviously


I absolutely think Russia has a right to oppose Ukraine trying to join NATO. Just like Kennedy opposed nukes in Cuba.

Did you think I was the one who pretended "I only defend the US"? Because that was you playing pretend, not me.
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I've only defended the US. If posting online constitutes "defending" then you deserve the order of Lenin
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GAC06 said:

I've only defended the US. If posting online constitutes "defending" then you deserve the order of Lenin


Posting online = speak or write in favor of

What is so hard about this for you?
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I've only defended the US. If posting online constitutes "defending" then you deserve the order of Lenin


Posting online = speak or write in favor of

What is so hard about this for you?


So why are you so prolific in your defense of Russia?
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GAC06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I've only defended the US. If posting online constitutes "defending" then you deserve the order of Lenin


Posting online = speak or write in favor of

What is so hard about this for you?


So why are you so prolific in your defense of Russia?


Asked and answered: I absolutely think Russia has a right to oppose Ukraine trying to join NATO. Just like Kennedy opposed nukes in Cuba.

When will you stop pretending you "only defend the US"?

When will you explain why you defend the most currpt country in Europe?
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Asked and answered. I defend our country. You simp for Russia.
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GAC06 said:

Asked and answered. I defend our country. You simp for Russia.


When will you stop pretending? I've watched you defend Ukraine for over a year. Your refusal to articulate your position is curious. Especially when combined with your attempt to hide behind your uniform.
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Quote:

Your refusal to articulate your position is curious.


Classic projection. I hope Russia's aggression fails. I'm not hiding from that position. You as a Russian fanboy will do anything to deflect from your immoral and indefensible war.
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GAC06 said:

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Your refusal to articulate your position is curious.


Classic projection. I hope Russia's aggression fails. I'm not hiding from that position. You as a Russian fanboy will do anything to deflect from your immoral and indefensible war.


"Indefensible" lmao

2 posts ago I defended it. Nortex does everyday. Thats funny.

When you're done, I'd love for you to actually articulate the why behind your position. You're the only one hiding from answering questions here.
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I'll say it yet again, and it won't take me four edits. I'm against wars of conquest, and land grabs. You apparently aren't.
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GAC06 said:

I'll say it yet again, and it won't take me four edits. I'm against wars of conquest, and land grabs. You apparently aren't.


Thank you for repeating that. My question is still: why? Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. I'd like to know why you defend them vehemently.
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Is Russia not in Europe? What metrics are you using to define most corrupt?
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I'll say it yet again, and it won't take me four edits. I'm against wars of conquest, and land grabs. You apparently aren't.


Thank you for repeating that. My question is still: why? Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. I'd like to know why you defend them vehemently.


Russia is the most corrupt country in Europe. Why do you defend them (online) so vehemently?
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It's true. Russia has a worse corruption index score than Ukraine. And Bosnia Herzegovina is ranked worse than Ukraine as well. Ukraine is tied with Serbia and their score is actually improving year over year while Russia is falling.

https://www.transparency.org/en/cpi/2023
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Why are you defending Ukraine bro? /guy that "defends" Russia every day
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And I didn't even have to use 30 to 40 embedded tweets in a single post.
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Wow, a lot of interest in this perspective last night. I was distracted/out of town this week too, fwiw. A&M graduation-related, I'll just leave it at that. Pretty good (and funny) comments from Kellog about ending this proxy war:
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Speaking to Fox News on Friday, Kellogg did not rule out the idea that Trump could potentially invite both Russian President Vladimir Putin and Ukrainian leader Vladimir Zelensky to his presidential inauguration.

"President Trump plays three-level chess, and it wouldn't surprise me if he did something like that. Could he do it? Of course, he could do it. He could make such a bold move,"
Kellogg said, adding that he really believes the Ukraine conflict will be solved "within the next few months" because Trump is "the only person" who can and will do it.
It's funny, but the Poles and Romanians (if allowed to vote for their choice), as well as Slovakians, Hungarians, (Georgians) and many other Nato member body politics/people really want no part of this proxy war. Yet we are told over and over how "Nato is a defensive alliance" when that is simply not what it is today, nor has it been for a great while. Funding the extermination of Ukrainians to fight Putin defending ethnic Russian people who seceded from 'Ukraine' after Nuland's coup isn't really a great investment, imho.


And yes, Nato has political objectives that far outweigh any military ones today. They also have trained journalists how to work toward them, in addition to their censorship operations.


Sure, Russia is again absolutely a corrupt country, too, it's just that any/all corruption there doesn't really impact me, as we aren't shoveling money at them by the hour. The bogeyman of 'horribad Russia' is a consequence of a certain narrative imho that some have, wittingly or unwittingly drank too much of:
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The pointless slaughter continues. And Rutte chatting up Russia at the Carnegie Foundation is almost too ironic given some of the comments last night:


The corruption that should matter to us, putting on a speech about…corruption. Because, of course this is a feature, not a glitch, for Biden business partners:




Meanwhile…


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PlaneCrashGuy said:

I was out of town. What happened in Kupyansk? Only articles I can find are from before I left, when it was a headline.


My original question still stands.
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GAC06 said:

PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I'll say it yet again, and it won't take me four edits. I'm against wars of conquest, and land grabs. You apparently aren't.


Thank you for repeating that. My question is still: why? Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. I'd like to know why you defend them vehemently.


Russia is the most corrupt country in Europe. Why do you defend them (online) so vehemently?


You can keep repeating the same question and I can keep copy pasting the same answer. But I'd still like to know why you tried to hide behind your uniform in defense of the most corrupt country in Europe.
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I would guess that was a scout element last month (or 'Recon group raid' as the Russians term it). There are a lot of rumors of an offensive 'in the kupyansk direction' but I don't think the city is really under active siege. Sorry, there were something like 40 replies overnight on this thread, didn't see the question when I got up.



Do you see anything indicating something more significant happening? Some sitreps here.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2024/12/13/syria-assad-rebels-russia-israel-iran/
Poor Russians.
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PlaneCrashGuy said:

GAC06 said:

I'll say it yet again, and it won't take me four edits. I'm against wars of conquest, and land grabs. You apparently aren't.


Thank you for repeating that. My question is still: why? Ukraine is the most corrupt country in Europe. I'd like to know why you defend them vehemently.


Can you explain how being against unprovoked land grab invasions = "defending Ukraine vehemently"?
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