Russia/Ukraine from Another Perspective (Relaunch Part Deux)

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In reply to OPAG • 12:47p, 2/19/25
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Exactly. An alliance with Russia, and countries like Hungary/Slovakia etc. makes a lot more sense than trying to drive 'regime change' or coups there. These are countries that have resisted the WEF/Soros globalists that want open borders (or 'Open Societies'). In many ways Europe is substantially conquered by the 'enemy' within and without (including USAID). And yes, this was has first and foremost benefited China, and then secondarily the wealthy oligarchs of Europe/Ukraine/Russia (and the US, not just the Biden familia) alike who are on the dole and empowered via the censorship and blood money etc.

Thankfully I think the evidence is now solidly that Trump now gets it, and won't tolerate this idiocy from Zelensky.

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12:18p, 2/20/25
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 4:55a, 2/21/25
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That's pretty funny, SMR.
Developing:

He's right, you know, x2:


Sign me up for this proffer from Trump: classic win-win for America.

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In an article on Wednesday, The Economist said, "many Ukrainians are clearly frustrated with their war leader."According to data cited in the report, Zelensky "would lose a future election by 30% to 65% to Valery Zaluzhny," if the former commander runs for office. Zaluzhny currently serves as Ukraine's ambassador to the UK.
The Economist further claimed that, in sharp contrast to the 90% popularity he supposedly enjoyed during the early days of the conflict in 2022, Zelensky's trust ratings hit a low of 52% last month.
On Thursday, Ukraine's Strana.UA media outlet which is considered to be in opposition to the country's government and has come under pressure from the authorities cited a recent survey conducted by Socis suggesting that only 15.9% would vote for Zelensky, with Zaluzhny enjoying the support of 27.2% of respondents.
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5:25a, 2/22/25
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Bild: US could withdraw forces from Eastern and Central Europe.
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Western security services and politicians are worried about a potential exit of US troops from NATO member states in Central and Eastern Europe, Bild has reported on Wednesday, citing unnamed sources. The tabloid suggests that Russia is trying to get the US to radically downgrade its military presence on the continent.

Bild claimed that European members of NATO "feared" that the high-level US-Russia talks in Saudi Arabia on Tuesday, could lead to such an outcome. The German media outlet quoted an anonymous Western European security official as saying, "according to our information, we're talking about [Vladimir] Putin's 2021 demands, that is, the withdrawal of US troops from all NATO states that joined the alliance after 1990."

In December 2021, Russia presented the US and NATO with a list of proposals aimed at reshaping the security architecture in Europe, and to rule out Ukraine's accession. The West rejected the Kremlin's overture as an ultimatum at the time.

Bild also quoted former Lithuanian Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis who posted on X on Tuesday that "it seems much more than likely" that the Kremlin would renew its demands that "NATO must go back to its 1997 borders, retreating from everything except East Germany." He noted that while Trump technically cannot unilaterally implement a "reversal of NATO enlargement," he could still "withdraw US troops from the Eastern Flank, which would have almost the same effect."
'It's happening.'

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It's gotten to the point that even Arestovich is now upping his favor-currying antics by claiming on multiple interviews that should he become president of Ukraine he will order the immediate arrest and life imprisonment of Zelensky, Turchinov, and others of their ilk responsible for this mess:
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As an interesting note, in a new clip referencing the peace deal, Trump states that he thinks Putin "wants to make a deal" but that "he doesn't have to make a deal because he can have [all of Ukraine] if he wants to."
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It is fascinating for revealing Trump as more perceptive than perhaps we've at times given him credit for. Most assumed the US administration believes the lie, based on faulty intelligence, that Russia is weak and in desperate need of a ceasefire. But in fact Trump appears fully aware that Putin doesn't need this deal, and can carry on swallowing Ukraine whole. This is critical, as it reveals a lot of implications: for instance, the fact that Trump likely knows the incentive needs to be extremely strong for Russia to choose a deal over taking all of Ukraine as part of the war spoils. As such, we can assume the US must logically be preparing major concessions toward Putin's demands in order to realistically make a 'peace deal' work.

And today we had some confirmation of this, as it was reported by Financial Times[url=https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/moscow-demanded-us-nato-withdraw-forces-eastern-europe-riyadh-talks][/url]that the withdrawal of American troops from eastern Europe was an explicit demand from the Russian side in Riyadh, for any normalization to take place.

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7:26a, 2/23/25
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Very true.

Not a lot of Ukrainian drone strikes into Russia over the past week.
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The Russians have taken Seversk apparently.
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4:41a, 2/24/25
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"Pro Proxy War Class." Pretty funny, and accurate. Gets around to war talk at 22:30 with the historian.


Weird, I've been told over and over this is an 'unprovoked' 'land grab' by Russia.

Sitrep: "Unthinkable" now reality; GG floats resignation.
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Just look at what happened now: the mere suggestion of Trump cutting off supplies and leaning on Zelensky has led to the unprecedented talk of Zelensky resigning, which has already brought regime and state collapse one step closer to fruition. Now imagine this six months down the line or so, if events continue along the current trajectory.
If the war was fought on a purely military scale, with no outside factors involved, then certainly the current pace would be on course for several more years of fighting. But things don't happen in a vacuum like that: every political exigency affects the military, social, moral, and economic spheres. Ukraine is now in political crisis, and without the previous "optimism" of staunch US support, societal support could quickly collapse, leading to a crisis spiral that will have repercussions on everything.
The fact is, war itself is fought in many spheres and domains. It was Gerasimov, according to the West, who underlined this in his infamous 'doctrine' about new generation warfare, where the military sphere is just one smalland sometimes subordinateaspect. As such, Russia doesn't need to defeat Ukraine "purely" on the battlefieldit is already defeating the combined West on the hybrid battlefield, which includes all possible intersecting spheres and dimensions.
This is why it's foolish to bean-count armor losses or territorial shifts by the square meter, using sterile metrics as 'proof' that Russia is advancing too slowly to win any time soon. Russia's real 'advances' are not so easily quantifiable and are clearly paying massive dividends considering the enemy leader has literally just floated resignation. Of course, that's not to say the war would end with Zelensky's departure; but it could certainly enter another terminal phase favoring Russia.
That said, as the politico-social aspects take a nosedive in Ukraine, Russia is set to turn the screws by applying even more military pressure to accelerate things.
More at the link. Forever war, comrades, though Trump has hinted at a deal as early as this week to bring the bloodshed to a close.
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5:59a, 2/26/25
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Sitrep: Putin plays peacemaker as war rolls on.
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Former Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told POLITICO: "The most powerful leverage Trump has on Ukraine is to threaten non-delivery of weapons. We have, in my view, six months before we would really start to feel the lack of weapons on the front line."
There is a reason to worry about U.S. intentions.
Reportedly, the 'Trump-proofed' weapons package that Biden ordered in his last days allows Ukraine to keep things going until "mid-year":
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Without US support, Ukraine will only be able to continue fighting until summer, Politico
"The amount of weapons the Biden administration has delivered or ordered in recent months should provide the Ukrainians with the ability to continue fighting at the current pace until at least mid-year," the publication quotes Celeste Wallander, former US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs.
Recall that both HIMARS and ATACMS have not been seen or heard from on the front in a while now. It could be a hiatus, low stocks, or even a result of Trump cutting some satellite intel capabilities.
WSJ argues that Ukraine would lose some of its most critical systems, ones Europe cannot replace.
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But note the interesting point at the end: Trump admits that the conflict may very well continue on "for a while, until we have a deal with Russia." He's essentially corroborating what I wrote in the opening, that things will play out until the US and Russia see eye to eye on the core issues; and Trump is between rock and hard place here, because on one hand the only way to bring Russia to the table faster would be to 'put pressure' on it by increasing arms to Ukraine. But on the other hand, Trump knows that increasing arms would be a hostile act that would embolden Russia to spurn US' future friendship offers and fight on instead.

As such, Trump really has no choice but to "stay out of it" and let Russia simply subjugate Ukraine. The only ones who are now free to act are the Europeans, but they don't have much resources to really change the calculus in any significant way on their own.
About right.

The USAID-PoliticoPro piece:

Expanded breakthrough in Toretsk, Kursk pocket intensifies the slaughter of Ukrainians for nothing. AMK Mapping has much more.
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12:36p, 2/26/25


What Trump saying here sounds vaguely familiar.

Seems like we've heard this before. Maybe several years ago, but also maybe every 10-pages or so of this 284-page thread.
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In reply to Stat Monitor Repairman • 12:43p, 2/26/25
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Yeah.

Nothing new, really, to folks who have paid attention.
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