He deserves death (though not the quick and relatively painless one he'd get)

I would accept life in Supermax with no eligibility for parole under any circumstances as in some ways that's worse than death

-23 hr per day solitary confinement
-One window that only points up
-soundproof concrete walls
-1 hour per day in an enclosed exercise cage
-No contact with the outside

60+ years of that and you'd be begging for death

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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

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Am I legitimately the only one who feels like life without parole would be harder to go through than getting a needle?

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It would be harder for us. We have to pay for feeding, housing, guarding, etc.

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Life is cheaper than death

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And that is part of the problem. China shoots them in the back of the head then bills the criminal's family for the bullet.

StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

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Am I legitimately the only one who feels like life without parole would be harder to go through than getting a needle?

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It would be harder for us. We have to pay for feeding, housing, guarding, etc.

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Life is cheaper than death

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And that is part of the problem. China shoots them in the back of the head then bills the criminal's family for the bullet.

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This whole thread is interesting to see how conservatives want to only acknowledge certain rights at certain times

Four Seasons Landscaping said:

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Am I legitimately the only one who feels like life without parole would be harder to go through than getting a needle?

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Rope is cheaper and can be reused.

Walking into a school and starting killing children, you don't deserve ANY rights.

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Rattler12 said:

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Death knocks the recidivism rate down to zero....

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Life in prison without parole doesn't?

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No, it doesn't. Ask Aubrey Hawkins or the Collins family.

Oh, sorry, you can't ask them.

StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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Walking into a school and starting killing children, you don't deserve ANY rights.

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Then scrap the constitution

icrymyselftosleep said:

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StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

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Am I legitimately the only one who feels like life without parole would be harder to go through than getting a needle?

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It would be harder for us. We have to pay for feeding, housing, guarding, etc.

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Life is cheaper than death

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And that is part of the problem. China shoots them in the back of the head then bills the criminal's family for the bullet.

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This whole thread is interesting to see how conservatives want to only acknowledge certain rights at certain times

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Don't be dense.

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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icrymyselftosleep said:

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StonewallAggieDEFENSE said:

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Four Seasons Landscaping said:

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Am I legitimately the only one who feels like life without parole would be harder to go through than getting a needle?

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It would be harder for us. We have to pay for feeding, housing, guarding, etc.

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Life is cheaper than death

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And that is part of the problem. China shoots them in the back of the head then bills the criminal's family for the bullet.

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This whole thread is interesting to see how conservatives want to only acknowledge certain rights at certain times

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Don't be dense.

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Have you not read through the thread?

I'm for whatever the families want.

Blood Eagle....

Some families want death and some want life.

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1. Dig a 100' cubed hole in Hudspeth County TX
2. Every July 4th, round up all the scum like this and drop them into it.

He'd make it a few days in whatever creature fell in there and whatever piss he could muster, but demons like him deserve worse.

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That would be quite a deterrent

Only one of the Texas Seven was in prison for capital murder when they escaped (not saying the others were good guys, but only one was eligible for the death penalty), but you have a good point about Gonzalo Lopez. If TDCJ was actually enforcing their protocols and/or had better ones (they do now), he wouldn't have escaped, though.

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Some families want death and some want life.

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Then give him death for the ones who want death and life for the ones who want life. He gets sentenced for each murder.

A one-and-a-half minute video of him fighting a corrections officer. He pled guilty to four charges (three felonies and one misdemeanor) stemming from the attack on the same day he pled guilty to the 34 charges from the shooting in exchange for the maximum 26 year sentence on those counts.

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Only one of the Texas Seven was in prison for capital murder when they escaped (not saying the others were good guys, but only one was eligible for the death penalty), but you have a good point about Gonzalo Lopez. If TDCJ was actually enforcing their protocols and/or had better ones (they do now), he wouldn't have escaped, though.

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It doesn't matter what they were in prison for. The fact is they escaped and killed people. Life without parole is not a 100% deterrent. The death penalty is.

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Death.

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Death. I don't even why the OP needs to ask. Death by torture if you ask me.

lethalninja said:

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A one-and-a-half minute video of him fighting a corrections officer. He pled guilty to four charges (three felonies and one misdemeanor) stemming from the attack on the same day he pled guilty to the 34 charges from the shooting in exchange for the maximum 26 year sentence on those counts.

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If we still had criminally insane asylums, I'd say send him there, forever. But we do not.

Thanks Geraldo.

(b) The defendant was previously convicted of another capital felony or of a felony involving the use or threat of violence to the person.

The state will use the jail attack as an aggravating factor as to why he should get the death penalty, since he pled guilty to the attack before pleading guilty to the shooting, even though it happened after, since it counts as a previous conviction.

I'm saying that only one was eligible for the death penalty. Maybe you're saying that more of them should have been eligible.

He will be in prison forever, and he knew what he was doing, so he shouldn't go to a mental hospital.

Death. And it should be carried out as expediently as Nina's was in the Americans.

Since some of the families want death, he should get death.

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He will be in prison forever, and he knew what he was doing, so he shouldn't go to a mental hospital.

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I missed that, I guess.

17 counts of first-degree murder for the killings of:

Count 1: Luke Hoyer

Count 2: Martin Duque

Count 3: Gina Montalto

Count 4: Alex Schachter

Count 5: Alaina Petty

Count 6: Alyssa Alhadeff

Count 7: Nicholas Dworet

Count 8: Helena Ramsay

Count 9: Christopher Hixon

Count 10: Carmen Schentrup

Count 11: Aaron Feis

Count 12: Scott Beigel

Count: 13 Meadow Pollack

Count 14: Cara Loughran

Count 15: Joaquin Oliver

Count 16: Jaime Guttenberg

Count 17: Peter Wang

17 counts of attempted murder for wounding:

Count 18: Ashley Baez

Count 19: William Olson

Count 20: Kheshava Mangapuram

Count 21: Justin Colton

Count 22: Alexander Dworet

Count 23: Genesis Valentin

Count 24: Daniela Menscal

Count 25: Samantha Grady

Count 26: Samantha Fuentes

Count 27: Isabel Chequer

Count 28: Samantha Mayor

Count 29: Benjamin Wikander

Count 30: Madeline Wilford

Count 31: Marian Kabachenko

Count 32: Stacey Lippel

Count 33: Anthony Borges

Count 34: Kyle Laman

The corrections officer he assaulted was Raymond Beltran Jr., so he pled guilty to murdering, attempting to murder or assaulting 35 people. A death sentence wouldn't be surprising at all.

lethalninja said:

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The corrections officer he assaulted was Raymond Beltran Jr., so he pled guilty to murdering, attempting to murder or assaulting 35 people. A death sentence wouldn't be surprising at all.

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Name absolutely checks out

Meals:
Death Row inmates are served meals three times a day: at 5:00 am, from 10:30 am to 11:00 am and from 4:00 pm to 4:30 pm. Food is prepared by prison staff and transported in insulated carts to the cells. Inmates are given sporks with their meals and they eat from the provided tray. Prior to execution, an inmate may request a last meal. To avoid extravagance, the food to prepare the last meal must cost no more than $40 and must be purchased locally.

Showers:
The inmates may shower every other day.

Security:
Death Row inmates are counted at least once an hour. They are escorted in handcuffs and wear them everywhere except in their cells, the exercise yard and the shower. They are in their cells at all times except for medical reasons, exercise, social or legal visits or media interviews. When a death warrant is signed the inmate is put under Death Watch status and is allowed a legal and social phone call.

Mail, Magazines & Entertainment:
Inmates may receive mail every day except holidays and weekends. They may have snacks, radios and 13" televisions in their cells. They do not have cable television or air-conditioning and they are not allowed to be with each other in a common room. They can watch church services on closed circuit television. While on Death Watch, inmates may have radios and televisions positioned outside their cell bars.

Clothing:
Death Row inmates can be distinguished from other inmates by their orange t-shirts. Their pants are the same blue colored pants worn by regular inmates.

Death row conditions in Florida

The Executioner:
Is a private citizen who is paid $150 per execution. State law allows for his or her identity to remain anonymous.

Lethal injection is the default method, but he can choose between that or the electric chair.

Tom Doniphon said:

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I'm only for the death penalty in instances where it's 100% guilt with zero question... and when that's the case, I want it to happen immediately.

Drag this dude out, shoot him in the head, and bury him in an unmarked grave.

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I agree. In Texas we call that beyond a reasonable doubt.

Reasonable doubt is less than a hundred percent, but still very high. States could make a new "beyond a shadow of a doubt" standard for death penalty cases, but they'll probably stick with reasonable doubt.

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He wants to live, since last October, he offered to plead guilty to all charges in exchange for 34 consecutive life sentences without parole (seventeen counts of first degree murder and seventeen counts of first degree attempted murder), but the state rejected his offer, so he pled guilty without an agreement and is hoping for his lawyers to get him life instead of death.

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Then give him death. Normally I would be ageist the death penalty based on the fallibility of our justice system, but he's plead guilty and there is absolutely no doubt about it.