2000 Mules

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richardag said:

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richardag said:

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Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?


yeah; Zuckerburg didn't donate millions out of the kindness of his heart and love of "democracy" only to put more Mercedes Benz's on the streets. Apartment complexes and nursing homes didn't have 100% voting rates because they were motived by mean tweets. The money had a purpose. Grass roots! Get out the vote! (with access to the insecure and compromised registration rolls and enough bodies to get as many ballots as they needed. On top of that, you have really convenient "water main breaks" causing pipes to burst during counting at State Farm Arena leading observers to be sent home while counting continued on Wednesday. Of course in certain locations in GA they had to stop counting because workers were tired, conveniently they'd happen to know how many they need the next day. This isn't supposed to be a feature of "democracy". In addition to True The Vote's work with cell phone geofencing, Favorito has done a ton of work identifying duplicate batches of votes and well over 100,000 votes that lack required chain of custody, among other things. The state can't even tell you how many of the absentee ballots were mailed vs dumped in dropboxes and serviced/delivered by NGOs.

Re 2000 Mules, if voting more than once is bad, and submitting the votes for other people is bad, then why should everyone simply dismiss and ignore TTV's data showing these people visiting that many drop boxes that many times?
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richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?


1) The Affidavits were all thrown out by Courts. They know the number of people who requested absentee ballots and they know the number of absentee ballots cast. If X =/= Y, then something is fishy. 11,000 additional ballots did not appear out of thin air, undetected? No.
  • Cases dismissed for various reasons, affidavits ignored
2) How did the "organizations they visited .... obtain them? They only mail them to the registered address of the voter. How did the organization do this for 11,000 + ballots & envelopes?
  • The voter registration roles weren't up to date and properly maintained
  • Mail in ballots received after they should have been, and in the middle of the night with no chain of custody.
3) Signature verification was not ignored. Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. They compare the signature to an online database, eNet and to the ballot envelope. Again, they ignored 11,000 signatures with no one being caught by a Republican-run election?
  • Affidavits claiming the signatures not properly verified.

To date there has not been a thorough honest transparent investigation by law enforcement.

Ever wonder why he's fighting it so hard and spending his valuable time on it? He knows.
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Rockdoc said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

richardag said:

GeorgiAg said:

Funky Winkerbean said:

You people are too much. A man clearly presents video information showing a very high probability of voter fraud, and you attack him.

But, that's what liberals do when things get uncomfortable for them.


In Georgia, to vote absentee, you have to be a registered voter and request an absentee ballot. They track absentee ballots and if more than one is received, it's flagged by the system. If you vote in person and by absentee, it is flagged by the system. And you may be prosecuted for doing that when you are caught.

How did these mules know thousands of people who were registered to vote, but weren't going to vote in the presidential election? 11 thousand was the margin of victory.

How did these mules request absentee ballots and intercept them from these people's registered mail address? You can't request a ballot and send it somewhere else other than where you live. Was there a huge scheme to pay $ for people to request ballot and give it to a mule? Ok prove it. How did they advertise that to over 11,000 people and execute that with no one being caught.

They were able to all this perfectly without a large number of multiple votes from the same people that would have set off enormous red flags for the REPUBLICAN Secretary of State, REPUBLICAN Governor and REPUBLICAN Elections chair? They executed this over eleven thousand times without an error?

You people are too much. There is ZERO probability that happened. There may have been a few cases where people voted how they wanted and the absentee ballots were delivered by someone other than the voter. While not legal, that's still a person voting how they want. They confirmed the guy in the video had a large family. HIm delivering the ballots was LEGAL. There are no videos of multiple trips by the same person.

The premise of the movie is Trump actually won because fake names voted, or registered voters who weren't going to vote (in a presidential election, yeah right) voted, or somehow Trump voters absentee ballots were taken and the Trump voter didn't otherwise vote? That's hella dumb. What really happened is a registered voter request a ballot, received it, voted and that ballot found its way into a box, most likely by that voter delivering it.

And no, I'm not watching the movie, because the underlying premise of the movie is dumb and impossible. If you could just print a ballot, write "John Smith" on it, drop it in a box and have it count, then yes this evil plan could work. But you have to have a real person, registered voter AND request an absentee ballot.
Everything you mention is lost completely as soon as the ballot is removed from the envelope.
A ballot is not counted unless it is in a properly signed and verified envelope.
  • There are affidavits disputing this
Where do the mules get 11,000 unique envelopes?
  • The organizations they visited between drop boxes obtained them.
How did they sign all 11,000 correctly?
  • Signature verification was ignored. Where are the envelopes?


1) The Affidavits were all thrown out by Courts. They know the number of people who requested absentee ballots and they know the number of absentee ballots cast. If X =/= Y, then something is fishy. 11,000 additional ballots did not appear out of thin air, undetected? No.
  • Cases dismissed for various reasons, affidavits ignored
2) How did the "organizations they visited .... obtain them? They only mail them to the registered address of the voter. How did the organization do this for 11,000 + ballots & envelopes?
  • The voter registration roles weren't up to date and properly maintained
  • Mail in ballots received after they should have been, and in the middle of the night with no chain of custody.
3) Signature verification was not ignored. Anything that can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. They compare the signature to an online database, eNet and to the ballot envelope. Again, they ignored 11,000 signatures with no one being caught by a Republican-run election?
  • Affidavits claiming the signatures not properly verified.

To date there has not been a thorough honest transparent investigation by law enforcement.

Ever wonder why he's fighting it so hard and spending his valuable time on it? He knows.



I need to write a "govern yourself accordingly" threat letter to "AquaGuard" and I've been avoiding it.
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Summary of Garland Favorito's efforts in Georgia is HERE

ETA: Old interview of Favorito is HERE
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He knows
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oh no said:

some people have a strong desire to keep their heads in the sand and find a way to DEBOOONK True the Vote's work here. "I don't see video of the same guy at every drop box the cell data says he visited. Therefore, no one should investigate and we must keep mass mailing the ballots and keep hundreds of unsecure dropboxes all over the city. Most secure election EVVAAARRR!!".



Personally I have no desire to try and "debunk" them. There's pretty clearly evidence of shady happenings. What they do provide, most of it anyway, does seem to indicate illegal election practices. They make some unsupported assumptions, particularly with the math he does near the end to tally up the total votes in question, but I'm willing to grant that they have shown fairly convincing evidence of varying degrees of illlegal ballot harvesting.

Instead my questions involve their refusal to provide much of the evidence and information they claim to have. Why are they refusing to release the 501c organization info? Why are they not releasing the email correspondence that shows intent and plotting? Why are they not releasing the cell phone data from states Trump won? And so on.

There is no reason to not release all of that stuff at this point, and the fact that they haven't casts doubt on the totality of their claims. It's also a bit too convenient that they heavily insinuate but intentionally refuse to overly make the accusation that the ballots in question were fabricated, not merely harvested. That's a strange thing to do if you in fact have all this evidence of something more.
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aggiehawg said:

Summary of Garland Favorito's efforts in Georgia is HERE

ETA: Old interview of Favorito is HERE
Garland Favorito? Reminds me of this guy:



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If you don't know Favorito's long history in advocating free and fair elections in Georgia, then ou are not as pugged in as you think you are. He's neither a Dem nor GOP. He works on a bi-partisan basis.
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and he's posted public images of the exact same ballots counted in more than one batch. not sure how that's possible in the most secure election ever.
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TTV is on the up and up? Then why won't they provide docs to the Secretary of State or Elections Board?

They are issuing subpoenas.

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GeorgiAg said:

TTV is on the up and up? Then why won't they provide docs to the Secretary of State or Elections Board?

They are issuing subpoenas.


Yet you and the others wonder why they didn't drop more information.

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GeorgiAg said:

TTV is on the up and up? Then why won't they provide docs to the Secretary of State or Elections Board?

They are issuing subpoenas.


You really don't understand what is going on here, do you? This is good development. They were offered the information before but never responded. Now there's enough light on the situation they need to look like they are investigating.
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"True" the Vote: We did an extensive investigation and have evidence of clear voter fraud we wish you'd investigate.

Elections Board: Ok, we will investigate. Give us your info.

TTV: No!

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GeorgiAg said:

TTV is on the up and up? Then why won't they provide docs to the Secretary of State or Elections Board?

They are issuing subpoenas.


You really don't seem contrite about voting for Biden and corruption at all.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

GeorgiAg said:

TTV is on the up and up? Then why won't they provide docs to the Secretary of State or Elections Board?

They are issuing subpoenas.


You really don't seem contrite about voting for Biden and corruption at all.
These are separate issues.

If I regret voting for Biden, I have to believe there was a massive voter fraud? Trump lost because he not only fires up the GOP base, but pissed off CM and fired up the dem base.

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GeorgiAg said:

"True" the Vote: We did an extensive investigation and have evidence of clear voter fraud we wish you'd investigate.

Elections Board: Ok, we will investigate. Give us your info.

TTV: No!
True the Vote is the complainant in the case for which this subpoena is being issued.
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They were supposed to comply with a subpoena by April 28th. They ignored it.

https://www.scribd.com/document/571945670/Georgia-True-the-Vote-Subpoena-on-Ballot-Harvesting#download&from_embed
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These are separate issues.
This is the corruption you voted for.
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aggiehawg said:

GeorgiAg said:

"True" the Vote: We did an extensive investigation and have evidence of clear voter fraud we wish you'd investigate.

Elections Board: Ok, we will investigate. Give us your info.

TTV: No!
True the Vote is the complainant in the case for which this subpoena is being issued.
So? You have to comply with discovery requests no matter what side you are on, unless there is a privilege.
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aggiehawg said:

GeorgiAg said:

"True" the Vote: We did an extensive investigation and have evidence of clear voter fraud we wish you'd investigate.

Elections Board: Ok, we will investigate. Give us your info.

TTV: No!
True the Vote is the complainant in the case for which this subpoena is being issued.
So many different emojis work here.
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GeorgiAg said:


Trump lost because he not only fires up the GOP base, but pissed off CM and fired up the dem base.


that dem base was super-fired up.. so fired up they shattered Obama's and Trump's all-time vote records.





move along. nothing to see here. as long as you don't watch 2000 Mules that is.

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CSTXAg92 said:

Keegan99 said:

When you take the field, you play your best game.

You don't give a half-ass effort.
Dishonest perspective is dishonest. The movie was far from a half-a effort.

So where is the video of the same person making the multiple drops on the same day?

The movie says they have it. Then it doesn't show it.

How would you describe not showing the best evidence, if not "half-ass"?
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Infection_Ag11 said:

oh no said:

some people have a strong desire to keep their heads in the sand and find a way to DEBOOONK True the Vote's work here. "I don't see video of the same guy at every drop box the cell data says he visited. Therefore, no one should investigate and we must keep mass mailing the ballots and keep hundreds of unsecure dropboxes all over the city. Most secure election EVVAAARRR!!".



Personally I have no desire to try and "debunk" them. There's pretty clearly evidence of shady happenings. What they do provide, most of it anyway, does seem to indicate illegal election practices. They make some unsupported assumptions, particularly with the math he does near the end to tally up the total votes in question, but I'm willing to grant that they have shown fairly convincing evidence of varying degrees of illlegal ballot harvesting.

Instead my questions involve their refusal to provide much of the evidence and information they claim to have. Why are they refusing to release the 501c organization info? Why are they not releasing the email correspondence that shows intent and plotting? Why are they not releasing the cell phone data from states Trump won? And so on.

There is no reason to not release all of that stuff at this point, and the fact that they haven't casts doubt on the totality of their claims. It's also a bit too convenient that they heavily insinuate but intentionally refuse to overly make the accusation that the ballots in question were fabricated, not merely harvested. That's a strange thing to do if you in fact have all this evidence of something more.

For whatever reason, they haven't produce the evidence they claim to have.

But they CAN produce a Hollywood-wannabe style vid that looks to be nothing more than an email harvesting plea. Just sign up and give us your info and THEN you'll get the good stuff! We've got a hashtag and everything!

https://instagr.am/p/CdTt8_ujYbI

If you wanna know why people roll their eyes and think it's a grift, it's moves like this. It's not a move an organization that wants to be taken seriously makes.
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if it wasn't a grift, Dinesh wouldn't be whining on social media that no one will interview him
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Charpie said:

if it wasn't a grift, Dinesh wouldn't be whining on social media that no one will interview him
There's a midterm approaching and this topic is a political time bomb.
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I really can't get over the hilarity of that video. Oooh... it's night time and dimly lit... the camera is shaky... phone calls are being recorded and important computer stuff is happening... wait now we're loading up tactical cases and driving to the airport!

Because, you know, publishing something on the internet requires Jason Bourne.
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Charpie said:

if it wasn't a grift, Dinesh wouldn't be whining on social media that no one will interview him


Like I said earlier in the thread, he gives off Candice Owens opportunistic grifter vibes. And like Owens, he gets eviscerated in long form discussions by actual sociopolitical intellectuals.
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Keegan99 said:

CSTXAg92 said:

Keegan99 said:

When you take the field, you play your best game.

You don't give a half-ass effort.
Dishonest perspective is dishonest. The movie was far from a half-a effort.

So where is the video of the same person making the multiple drops on the same day?

The movie says they have it. Then it doesn't show it.

How would you describe not showing the best evidence, if not "half-ass"?

Not being flippant, but did you watch the movie? I know the answer to your question because I watched the movie. Dinesh also addressed this specific topic in his rebuttal video response to Shapiro. The answer is simple and straight forward: Not all ballot drop boxes had video surveillance cameras.
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Don't waste your time.
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Funky Winkerbean said:

Don't waste your time.
Yep, you'd think I'd learn by now.
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Infection_Ag11 said:

Charpie said:

if it wasn't a grift, Dinesh wouldn't be whining on social media that no one will interview him


Like I said earlier in the thread, he gives off Candice Owens opportunistic grifter vibes. And like Owens, he gets eviscerated in long form discussions by actual sociopolitical intellectuals.


Which intellectuals have eviscerated her in long form discussion? Genuinely curious. Some video clips would be even better.

She may suck at long form debate, I wouldn't know. But i do know there is very rarely anything I can argue with that she puts out on social media and elsewhere. She is pretty much always dead on. I know a Fauci loving CM/contrarian like you won't agree and it's all good. Would be interested in hearing some personal counters to her sociopolitical beliefs or commentary. She must be dead wrong on a lot of things, so enlighten us.
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I thought only deranged lefties would believe Candace, or Dinesh for that matter, ever get eviscerated by anyone, but whatever. There are people trying to argue against and dismiss a movie they refuse to watch.
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Some of us spoke often about Stacy A's "Happy Faces" in the other (bigger) election day threads. They (happy fatties) were the mules we've been telling y'all about for 18 months.

Stacy was getting Zuckbucks, doling it out once she got proof (selfies) you had hand delivered to the drop-boxes...and just keep on going down the line of whom was getting paid by Zuck and were in on it (Brad R, Kemp, etc.)

It was a coordinated effort, and that's not even bringing in the hackable machines and GA's illegal dissent decree.

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Did TTV actually and finally announce the organizations' names based on their geo-data or is that just Flynn making a guess?
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peacedude said:

Some of us spoke often about Stacy A's "Happy Faces" in the other (bigger) election day threads. They (happy fatties) were the mules we've been telling y'all about for 18 months.

Stacy was getting Zuckbucks, doling it out once she got proof (selfies) you had hand delivered to the drop-boxes...and just keep on going down the line of whom was getting paid by Zuck and were in on it (Brad R, Kemp, etc.)

It was a coordinated effort, and that's not even bringing in the hackable machines and GA's illegal dissent decree.


But, but, but... where's the video of Stacey Abrams ACTUALLY RUNNING THE office? Huh? Huh?!?!

If you don't have video, IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!! #ConcernedModerates, #RINOS, #Libs, & #Keegan99 of TexAgs
 
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