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In the last California election I voted by mail at home and so did my wife. Wanting to make sure that my ballot got in before the deadline I decided to put it in a dropbox instead of in the mail. My wife was running late so she asked me to grab her ballot as well and I dropped it off for her. If you had me on video you would be asking for me to be perp walked for fraudulently putting ballots in a dropbox.

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I thought ballot harvesting/trafficking was legal in California?

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all three videos above show people stuffing a lot more than theirs + their spouse's ballot envelope. A LOT more. And 2000 Mules arrived at the title, using the number 2000, because that's how many cell phones visited drop boxes at least 10 times in only a couple of cities. Did you drop yours and your wife's ballots in 10 different boxes or the same box 10 times? Did you have to take a picture of the box when you dropped off you and your wife's envelopes? There is obviously a lot of nefarious activity and it's obviously too easy to accomplish and get away with. Instead of spiking the football if your team won, ignoring the weaknesses and lack of controls and accountability in the system, ignoring the disenfranchisement of half the population, and vilifying anyone who questions it as fascist threats to democracy, why not fix the ****ED up system that you just admitted yourself is an issue?

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all three videos above show people stuffing a lot more than theirs + their spouse's ballot envelope. A LOT more. And 2000 Mules arrived at the title, using the number 2000, because that's how many cell phones visited drop boxes at least 10 times in only a couple of cities. Did you drop yours and your wife's ballots in 10 different boxes or the same box 10 times? Did you have to take a picture of the box when you dropped off you and your wife's envelopes? There is obviously a lot of nefarious activity and it's obviously too easy to accomplish and get away with. Instead of spiking the football if your team won, ignoring the weaknesses and lack of controls and accountability in the system, ignoring the disenfranchisement of half the population, and vilifying anyone who questions it as fascist threats to democracy, why not fix the ****ED up system that you just admitted yourself is an issue?

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You say that they're nefarious. That's alleged and not actually proven. I don't know if those 10 people are Uber drivers dropping people off, dropbox is located next to apartment complexes or library that of course would have residents/employees pinging the same people coming and going, or a massive fraudulent voting ring that has just been uncovered. You're saying a bunch of weird stuff is happening, therefore fraud.

Given that there seem to be immense financial opportunities for people to come forward and claim how they were cheating for the election and not a single person has yet come forward, that leads me to believe at the present moment that claims that this is all evidence of mass voter fraud is bull***** All you have to do is present one person who said I did it here's how I did it. So far, nothing. Why do you think that is?

I am with you that I think that there's a lot of stuff that needs to be cleaned up. I'm not against voter ID or even eliminating drop boxes or some other process with two factor authentication to make sure that the voting process is way more secure. Where I am not with you is saying there are things to clean up, therefore Donald Trump was the rightfully elected president and Joe Biden cheated even though I don't yet have evidence that that is true, just 2 years of speculation.

ah yes. the old uber driver theory... that's it then. Boom. No reason to look into it or fix the ez fraud loopholes at all. DEBUNKED!!! case closed. This theory means that 2000 Mules is clearly a sham and should be totally ignored, dismissed, and censored because someone pondered the possibility of 2000 uber drivers going to drop boxes. Obviously this proves it was in fact the most fair and secure election evvvaaarrr! All the violent fascists who still have questions about the basement dweller who couldn't get a couple dozen people to his Philly rally 20 minutes from his house in Wilmington shattering obama's and trump's all time vote records must shut up now. There was uber drivers.

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TheHulkster said:

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Yep, . . . . .

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It shouldn't . . . . .

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As point out above, there are two very distinct elements here, and people should not let static confuse and blend the two.

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D'Souza and associates claim to have shown and documented methodology and instances of blatant election fraud in a video that has been fairly well received by those with an open mind.

B) Now in a controversial book, he seems to have gotten into trouble because made all kinds of accusations or naming of supposed funders and backers of this fraud process. Even risking legal jeopardy enough where the publisher pulled the book.


To demonstrate fraud, it is neither necessary or especially relevant to be able to prove who the backer was and how the payment/recompense was made. Its bad enough the fraud can be documented. The backer was a Leftist pro Democrat of one kind or another if it took place --that suffices for where ballot for Biden is concerned.

So......

Is (A) True or Not True, should be the only question? Who paid them, or if zealotry they did it pro bono, is secondary.

If (A) is Not True, then the whole thing can be dropped. But the Election thread appears to rule that out clearly - establishing that this process is feasible. And long ago established more than one type of shenanigans.


If (B) was over-hasty or libelous --- does it mean the evidence in (A) is faulty. Again, haven't seen it said it was faked documentation yet.

That's all.

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Well stated. Clear concise and on point.

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Donald Trump race some thing like $100 million to stop the steal. How hard would it be to say $10 million to the first mule to spill the beans and show receipts? Since that's not happening, I think it's reasonable to conclude that perpetuating the myth of election fraud is more valuable than actually proving election fraud happened.

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Yeah, I'm sure the mules haven't been threatened with Clintonciding.

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Well there you have it. The conspiracy just continues to go deeper and deeper. What good as money when the Clintons will just kill you?

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A conspiracy theory about your amusing theory that since President Trump would offer $10 million to a mule to "spill the beans" but "since that's not happening" you think it is reasonable to conclude …..

We are approaching Idiocracy at an accelerated pace.

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I'm not against voter ID

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Ummm...you do know that it is very racist to think black people are not too stupid and/or lazy to get ID's like us whites, right??? I wouldn't say that around any of your liberal "white savior" brethren.

Funny now they always seem to find a way to turn around and demonize the people calling them out for the evil things that they do.

i mean, everybody knows that if you don't mass mailout all ballots unsolicited to outdated insecure voter rolls and stage thousands of insecure drop boxes around the city, it's racist voter suppression. If you're against this, you're a fascist who wants to take away our rights. ...just like everybody knows that if you don't want to crush baby skulls with a pair of forceps, extract them from the womb, and throw them away once you confirm the heart stopped beating, then you're an evil religious zealot who wants to take away reproductive healthcare rights.

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Malibu2 said:

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Donald Trump race some thing like $100 million to stop the steal. How hard would it be to say $10 million to the first mule to spill the beans and show receipts? Since that's not happening, I think it's reasonable to conclude that perpetuating the myth of election fraud is more valuable than actually proving election fraud happened.

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Yeah, I'm sure the mules haven't been threatened with Clintonciding.

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Well there you have it. The conspiracy just continues to go deeper and deeper. What good as money when the Clintons will just kill you?

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A conspiracy theory about your amusing theory that since President Trump would offer $10 million to a mule to "spill the beans" but "since that's not happening" you think it is reasonable to conclude …..

We are approaching Idiocracy at an accelerated pace.

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It's not reasonable to think that a monetary reward would persuade one of the hundreds of mules that would be necessary to steal an election to come forward and give testimony of their fraud. But it is reasonable to conclude that if that happened the Clintons would murder them. Idiocracy indeed.

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Funny now they always seem to find a way to turn around and demonize the people calling them out for the evil things that they do.

i mean, everybody knows that if you don't mass mailout all ballots unsolicited to outdated insecure voter rolls and stage thousands of insecure drop boxes around the city, it's racist voter suppression. If you're against this, you're a fascist who wants to take away our rights. ...just like everybody knows that if you don't want to crush baby skulls with a pair of forceps, extract them from the womb, and throw them away once you confirm the heart stopped beating, then you're an evil religious zealot who wants to take away reproductive healthcare rights.

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Be careful not to stand next to any open flames with all that straw that you're posting.

Do you know anything about ERIC, CEIR and EBUs?

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The evidence that was laid out in a book that its own publisher didn't see fit to publish? Or the evidence that the author received from True the Vote that also wants nothing to do with his book?

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The evidence was that the same people visited far-left NGOs and multiple ballot boxes in the middle of the night. All that was seemingly pulled back was naming names. That doesn't change the cellular location data, which is the same used by the judicial system as evidence in courts of law.

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Do you know anything about ERIC, CEIR and EBUs?

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Would you like to educate me and make it relevant to this thread?

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Do you know anything about ERIC, CEIR and EBUs?

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Would you like to educate me and make it relevant to this thread?

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How about I post a link for you, then we can discuss these issues further and FTR it is directly relevant to this thread. Pay close attention to the EBUs.

https://texags.com/forums/16/topics/3307884/replies

Y'all know you can't just print out a absentee ballot, make up a fake name and vote for Biden, right? That doesn't work. If you pick a name from a voter roll and that person votes, that would be caught by the system. How'd they know tens or hundreds of thousands of people registered to vote but who weren't going to vote?

Read the entire one page thread I posted right above you and get back to us.

Unsolicited mass-mail outs were and will continue to be a huge mistake. You have all the data - the registration rolls. You know who isn't registered and thanks to Zuck you can hire the manpower to go and register for them and vote for them. You know who has moved or died and yet still registered so a ballot will be sent and you can get their ballots and vote for them. you can take an entire apartment complex, nursing home, high rise building - all one physical address- and make sure there's 100% registration and 100% mail in ballots dropped/voter participation, even if they don't know they voted. You know there's no ID check for in-person and the signature verification on the return envelope for mail-ins is dialed down or turned off. You know there's no chain of custody that can be audited. There's no tracing or vouching of ballots to registered voters once the envelopes are opened and ballots are separated from the envelopes. The process is set up intentionally for easy fraud and attempting to add controls and accountability or integrity is supposedly racist voter suppression.

The way the eligible but unregistered people are handled by ERIC and CEIR is a scandal all on its own.

States need to get rid of ERIC pronto.

Bump.

Still waiting for Malibu to respond.

[You two need take some breaths and be civil and respectful to each other. - Staff.]

I guess a staff clean up was necessary but that sure was a very revealing series of posts and unfortunately that type of behavior is not an isolated occurrence.

I hope everyone is well.

Need some more richardag hot takes!

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[You two need take some breaths and be civil and respectful to each other. - Staff.]

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Really?

He lies and won't respond and I'm the bad person here?

[Do you not see the "two" above addressed to both of you? You went over the line as well in your call outs so consider this a warning to both of you. - Staff]