Do the Russians know how important keeping the backup power on is?
My guess is no.
They'll probably try to steal the diesel fuel.
My guess is no.
They'll probably try to steal the diesel fuel.
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None of the reactors at Zaporizhzhia is likely to explode in the way Chernobyl did.
— Cheryl Rofer (@CherylRofer) March 4, 2022
But Russians must move away from the plant. https://t.co/XvnTKHL85b
Posting this but reading some of her responses to questions, it seems very unlikely of any explosion. Obviously not ideal but thought this could be a good contribution and perspective from someone who seems very knowledgeable on nuclear
TAMUallen said:TAMUallen said:swc93 said:Burning now.TAMUallen said:
Lots of shooting again.
They're hellbent on destroying this building
Been burning for 40 mins and they keep opening fire on it. Seems weird for one already engulfed building
Only thing I can think of is that they think Zelenskyy is possibly in there because it is beyond overkill
This is the most logical explanation I can think of.
The world should absolutely talk sense into China and step in when it's assured there wouldn't be a world war. This is getting ridiculously out of control.
They've had the area around the plant under control for a day or so. He's been in Kyiv. Could be another HVT, though.
If it's zelensky, I would imagine he goes down fighting. He's the last dude that wants to go back to Russia.
Which is what happened at ***ushima iirc.SwigAg11 said:DCPD158 said:BOOM! I would thinkaggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Mostly likely not at first. Instead, you would probably have a Three Mile Island event first where the reactor fuel starts melting and settling in the bottom of pressure vessel.
At worst, they start bleeding steam pressure into the main containment building which acts as a large buffer to contain radioactive material. If it keeps up, however, I would eventually be concerned with radiation release to nature.
I think Chinese pressure will ramp up now. China doesn't want to be on the side of the team that caused a nuclear incident. Neither does India. This is a horrible strategy for Russia, His inner circle's trigger fingers have to be getting antsy about now.AggieKO said:
The world should absolutely talk sense into China and step in when it's assured there wouldn't be a world war. This is getting ridiculously out of control.
Trying to find logic behind someone that important isn't in the last stand city
Ukraine's energy ministry says firefighters at nuclear power plant have been fired at by Russian troops and are unable to get to the blaze - RIA/REU
— BNO News (@BNONews) March 4, 2022
Jackholes. I'm tired of effing around with these guys........
Jock 07 said:TAMUallen said:TAMUallen said:swc93 said:Burning now.TAMUallen said:
Lots of shooting again.
They're hellbent on destroying this building
Been burning for 40 mins and they keep opening fire on it. Seems weird for one already engulfed building
Only thing I can think of is that they think Zelenskyy is possibly in there because it is beyond overkill
This is the most logical explanation I can think of.
Could also be his family. That would seem like a pretty safe place to hide people.
#Ukraine: IAEA is aware of reports of shelling at #Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (NPP), in contact with Ukrainian authorities about situation.
— IAEA - International Atomic Energy Agency (@iaeaorg) March 4, 2022
Tactically speaking... Putin needs to slip on his tea.
That explains the flashing lights; thought it was an ambulance, fire truck makes more sense.
SPSAg05 said:Ukraine's energy ministry says firefighters at nuclear power plant have been fired at by Russian troops and are unable to get to the blaze - RIA/REU
— BNO News (@BNONews) March 4, 2022
Jackholes. I'm tired of effing around with these guys........
I can see this stupidity forcing NATO or the EU's hand.
Can't have Putin turning swathes of land into radioactive wastelands because he is irritated.
There's no way his family is still in Ukraine is there? They've gotta be in Germany or something. As much of a badass as Zelensky appears to be, I doubt he would let his wife and young children stick around and incur the potential wrath of the Russians if he falls
I'm pretty sure the sign on the front gate would be a dead giveawayFightin_Aggie said:The field level troops may not have even been told it was a nuke. They might have just been told it was a power plantDCPD158 said:
This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
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Most likely place for his family is Kviv or Poland. Lviv is in far western Ukraine and isn't at risk of artillery or ground assault at this time, or anytime soon.
I don't think he would do it, but you all like to talk about 3D chess,
If it all goes south, Zelensky could literally tell both Biden and Putin that he is sitting next to the reactor at any of the other nuclear plants in Ukraine, surrounded by the last bastion of Ukrainian troops and see what happens next!
If it all goes south, Zelensky could literally tell both Biden and Putin that he is sitting next to the reactor at any of the other nuclear plants in Ukraine, surrounded by the last bastion of Ukrainian troops and see what happens next!
I certainly hope so. Bravery is one thing. I hope they're in a NATO country laying low
President Zelensky himself just posted this footage of the shelling and subsequent fire it caused. Spokespeople for the plant say there’s been no radiation leak. https://t.co/qaW4iCiS82 pic.twitter.com/E3XXuRcxS8
— Kevin Rothrock (@KevinRothrock) March 4, 2022
If VMFZ just posted this screengrab, hopefully that means he's somewhere else watching it remotely like us.
Ags4DaWin said:SPSAg05 said:Ukraine's energy ministry says firefighters at nuclear power plant have been fired at by Russian troops and are unable to get to the blaze - RIA/REU
— BNO News (@BNONews) March 4, 2022
Jackholes. I'm tired of effing around with these guys........
I can see this stupidity forcing NATO or the EU's hand.
Can't have Putin turning swathes of land into radioactive wastelands because he is irritated.
NATO and the EU is leading the charge. This might bring the US in kicking and screaming.
Same exact thought crossed my mind. What will the climate alarmists do now?
Correction on an earlier tweet, was operating off bad info: Building on fire and regularly getting shot at by the Russians is a museum. pic.twitter.com/9YVrSvTpJn
— Woofers (@NotWoofers) March 4, 2022
❗️Fire brigades were allowed to enter the territory of the Zaporozhye nuclear power plant
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022
This was announced by the head of the #Zaporozhye regional military administration Oleksandr Starukh.
❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022
Captain Positivity said:Correction on an earlier tweet, was operating off bad info: Building on fire and regularly getting shot at by the Russians is a museum. pic.twitter.com/9YVrSvTpJn
— Woofers (@NotWoofers) March 4, 2022
Russians are attacking a museum? Fight against history?
Captain Positivity said:Correction on an earlier tweet, was operating off bad info: Building on fire and regularly getting shot at by the Russians is a museum. pic.twitter.com/9YVrSvTpJn
— Woofers (@NotWoofers) March 4, 2022
A little close for comfort.
Captain Positivity said:Correction on an earlier tweet, was operating off bad info: Building on fire and regularly getting shot at by the Russians is a museum. pic.twitter.com/9YVrSvTpJn
— Woofers (@NotWoofers) March 4, 2022
Camera looks to actually be in building to the right, closer to the reactors. It showed the walkway connecting it to the building that the pic says has camera
They were attacking the building between the museum and the $ sign (gift shop?).
Unfortunately, WWII deuxime partie.FriscoKid said:Ags4DaWin said:SPSAg05 said:Ukraine's energy ministry says firefighters at nuclear power plant have been fired at by Russian troops and are unable to get to the blaze - RIA/REU
— BNO News (@BNONews) March 4, 2022
Jackholes. I'm tired of effing around with these guys........
I can see this stupidity forcing NATO or the EU's hand.
Can't have Putin turning swathes of land into radioactive wastelands because he is irritated.
NATO and the EU is leading the charge. This might bring the US in kicking and screaming.
Captain Positivity said:
Most likely place for his family is Kviv or Poland. Kviv is in far western Ukraine and isn't at risk of artillery or ground assault at this time, or anytime soon.
You surely mean Lviv right? Not Kyiv?
Captain Positivity said:❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.
— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022
I don't know the first thing about nuclear reactors but you would have a hard time convincing me that shelling a nuclear reactor does not cause a risk of a radiation leak
The trouble with quotes on the internet is that you never know if they are genuine. -- Abraham Lincoln.
Yes, sorry. Lviv.
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