Captain Positivity said:

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They were attacking the building between the museum and the $ sign (gift shop?).

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They attacked every building in the museum area. The last in the middle received the most attention though

They haven't shelled a reactor, just a building uncomfortably close to one.

Wonder if Ukraine forces were running some sort of C&C operations there, or if Russian forces were taking potshots from the building by a few security troops.

Captain Positivity said:

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They haven't shelled a reactor, just a building uncomfortably close to one.

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And they're definitely not having firefighters extinguish it either. They definitely turned away all of the flashing lights

swc93 said:

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That explains the flashing lights; thought it was an ambulance, fire truck makes more sense.

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I think it is vehicle alarms set off by the concussion of shells or cannon fire.

So was the tactic here to light up a building that wouldn't cause radiation leaks but to scare the operators into turning over control so they can safely shut the plant down or cut the power its providing to the country?

Teddy Perkins said:

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So was the tactic here to light up a building that wouldn't cause radiation leaks but to scare the operators into turning over control so they can safely shut the plant down or cut the power its providing to the country?

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That's what it seems like.

At some point they were going to have to go after Ukraine's electricity production and 50% of their power comes from nuclear so this was bound to happen eventually.

All reactors in Ukraine are VVER reactors designed by Rosatom (Russian state owned nuclear agency) so the Russians know them inside and out.

Obviously it's sketchy seeing a fire fight and explosives from a nuke plant security camera, but even the Russians aren't dumb enough to blow up their own reactor designs.

If there's no resistance that's not necessary. Maybe the Russians are trying to scare us. Maybe they're incompetent, scared, and hungry

agsalaska said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

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I don't know the first thing about nuclear reactors but you would have a hard time convincing me that shelling a nuclear reactor does not cause a risk of a radiation leak

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They are designed to withstand the impact of a 747 crashing into them 9/11 style.

They will be okay.

Ukraine's resistance is severely hampered if you take out their electricity production, and taking over a site with 6 operating reactors is a pretty good way to accomplish that goal.

Don't ever count out the ability of someone to be dumb.

That being said, this seemed like something way more surgical and not intended to create a nuclear meltdown scenario. All they needed to do for a meltdown was to send a missile or airstrike.

Teddy Perkins said:

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So was the tactic here to light up a building that wouldn't cause radiation leaks but to scare the operators into turning over control so they can safely shut the plant down or cut the power its providing to the country?

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Some of their vehicles pushed further and out of sight towards the cameras which is next to the reactor area. Looks like the road they came in surrounds all sides of the plant. No doubt they are inside the plant now with tanks very close to reactors

AG 2000' said:

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agsalaska said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

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I don't know the first thing about nuclear reactors but you would have a hard time convincing me that shelling a nuclear reactor does not cause a risk of a radiation leak

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They are designed to withstand the impact of a 747 crashing into them 9/11 style.

They will be okay.

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The shell, yes. Everything else, not so much. The reactors aren't necessarily the concern. It's all of the infrastructure around them.

Appears that the Russians have taken down the zaporizhzhya feed

BREAKING: Ukraine regulator tells International Atomic Energy Agency that there has been no change reported in radiation levels at the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant site: IAEA

— Insider Paper (@TheInsiderPaper) March 4, 2022

Taking out the power also helps Putin slow the information coming out which is severely hampering his BS narrative.

AG 2000' said:

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agsalaska said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

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I don't know the first thing about nuclear reactors but you would have a hard time convincing me that shelling a nuclear reactor does not cause a risk of a radiation leak

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They are designed to withstand the impact of a 747 crashing into them 9/11 style.

They will be okay.

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Your talking about containment dome standards in the US. The Soviet Union never had the same standards.

For example Chernobyl was built with no containment dome, which is why when it melted down then exploded it rained fizzle material for a 100km or so and sent a radioactive cloud over Europe.

It is also why ***ushima did not spew material into the air.

I believe the Soviet Union did have domes on later reactors (Chernobyl was older design). I don't know what is here as far as containment.

AG 2000' said:

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agsalaska said:

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Captain Positivity said:

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❗️According to Andrey Tuz, spokesman of the press service of the nuclear power plant, there is no threat of radiation spread.

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

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I don't know the first thing about nuclear reactors but you would have a hard time convincing me that shelling a nuclear reactor does not cause a risk of a radiation leak

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They are designed to withstand the impact of a 747 crashing into them 9/11 style.

They will be okay.

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We may end up seeing what a thermobaric bomb can do to it.

JB!98 said:

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swc93 said:

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That explains the flashing lights; thought it was an ambulance, fire truck makes more sense.

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I think it is vehicle alarms set off by the concussion of shells or cannon fire.

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No; it was on the road into the facility being blocked by the armored vehicles. Lasted for 10+ minutes and then shut off.

Your talking about containment dome standards in the US. The Soviet Union never had the same standards.

These are VVERs not RBMKs. The RBMKs did not have containment structures up to Western standards, the VVERs do

For example Chernobyl was built with no containment dome, which is why when it melted down then exploded it rained fizzle material for a 100km or so and sent a radioactive cloud over Europe.

Chernobyl had a steam explosion which blew up the building and exposed the core to the outside environment, then was hot enough to cause a graphite fire which continued to spew stuff out of the open building, then the fuel melted.

It is also why ***ushima did not spew material into the air.

***ushima did have a release of radioactivity because three different containment buildings (of Western standard) did explode due to hydrogen buildup inside the building and subsequent detonation of the hydrogen.

I believe the Soviet Union did have domes on later reactors (Chernobyl was older design). I don't know what is here as far as containment.

See first point.

Translated: "Europe must wake up! Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant is on fire after the Russian shelling. There are 6 power units in this NPP. There are 15 power units in Ukraine. One exploded in Chernobyl, you remember how it ended." https://t.co/Gjt1S5cKZz

— Camille LaGuire (@camillelaguire) March 4, 2022

TRM said:

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Translated: "Europe must wake up! Zaporizhzhya Nuclear Power Plant is on fire after the Russian shelling. There are 6 power units in this NPP. There are 15 power units in Ukraine. One exploded in Chernobyl, you remember how it ended." https://t.co/Gjt1S5cKZz

— Camille LaGuire (@camillelaguire) March 4, 2022

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He looks very tired

#Ukraine tells IAEA that fire at site of #Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant has not affected “essential” equipment, plant personnel taking mitigatory actions.

— IAEA - International Atomic Energy Agency (@iaeaorg) March 4, 2022

TRM said:

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I think anybody in that position would be tired.

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Agreed

Boris Johnson just spoke to Zelenskyy about the “gravely concerning” situation at Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station

The PM wants an emergency UN security council meeting and warned “the reckless actions of President Putin could now directly threaten the safety of all of Europe”

— Eleni Courea (@EleniCourea) March 4, 2022

❗️#Zaporizhzhya NPP spokesman Andrey Tuz:

"They bombed everything they could, including the reactor units and everything else. [...] A white car with representatives of Russian military arrived to the plant. [...] It is now being decided whether we will negotiate with them."

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

PWestAg18 said:

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Ukraine's resistance is severely hampered if you take out their electricity production, and taking over a site with 6 operating reactors is a pretty good way to accomplish that goal.

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You can take out the interconnect to the plant if you want it offline. No reason to make electricity without connection to the grid.

TheCougarHunter said:

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It can't explode because RBMK reactors don't explode

Call the fire brigade.

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I know nothing in this realm but couldn't an explosion exploded it? Like what would the effects be from arrillery or missile strike?

❗❗❗"#Nuclear safety at the #Zaporizhzhya NPP has been broken. We are doing everything possible, but the fire is going on, firefighters are not allowed. There are great risks. Fightings are going on at the plant. The #reactors are in danger", Igor Murashov, head of the NPP.

— NEXTA (@nexta_tv) March 4, 2022

BusterAg said:

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PWestAg18 said:

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Ukraine's resistance is severely hampered if you take out their electricity production, and taking over a site with 6 operating reactors is a pretty good way to accomplish that goal.

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You can take out the interconnect to the plant if you want it offline. No reason to make electricity without connection to the grid.

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If Putin wanted to maintain infrastructure for a future RU puppet he would do exactly this. There is no need to control the power plant proper. Take down a transmission substation or a couple of spans of transmission and you have isolated the power plant. Take and hold those substation breakers and you can turn the power on and off at your leisure (with the correct knowledge). Directly attacking a power plant, especially a nuke, is a fools errand.