***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Ukraine has changed tactics for air attacks on Russian energy sites. Appears to be paying off.

"The Ukrainian Armed Forces have finally switched to a tactic of massively striking one oil refinery at a time, rather than several at a time. This is the fourth oil refinery hit in five days. And the third of them (Novokuibyshevsky, Kstovsky, and now Yaroslavsky) is being reduced to literally nothing."

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For clarification, this is Rybar admitting the Russian MOD is full of *****
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Eliminatus said:

And people still believe Russia is fighting to protect its borders. Damned roving bands of NATO death squads or whatever.

So obliterating Kyiv has a new strategic name to it now. That's neat.

Must be lots of Nazis and bio labs there according to one poster.
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Why fighting infiltrated Russian soldiers is so difficult?

Because there is a lot of them and even a single moron with a rifle is still a dangerous moron. To smoke one out you need at least three guys and a lot of time.

And now imagine that their hideouts are dispersed across tens of kilometers and you can see how it becomes a problem.

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"I'm receiving reports from the front lines: in the Sumy region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces are putting immense pressure, and heavy fighting is taking place for the villages of Loknya and Yunakivka.

The most sensible thing to do now is to leave Yunakivka in the gray zone and withdraw to Basivka, towards the forests."

-Russian milblogger Maxim Kalashnikov

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Rossticus said:



Why would a peace deal n ed to take until spring of next year?

Sounds like a BS way for Putin/Russia to buy time. The energy strike must be killing their economy.
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pagerman @ work said:

Rossticus said:



Why would a peace deal n ed to take until spring of next year?

Sounds like a BS way for Putin/Russia to buy time. The energy strike must be killing their economy.

Typical deal Putin has no intention of honoring. Give me the thing I need right away (energy strike moratorium) and we will work out the rest of the amorphous details at some later date that I won't commit to at this time. If he wants an energy moratorium, it should come at a heavy price for something Ukraine needs, like stop hitting all civilian targets and pull back all troops at least 10km from the current front line.
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pagerman @ work said:

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Why would a peace deal n ed to take until spring of next year?

Sounds like a BS way for Putin/Russia to buy time. The energy strike must be killing their economy.

It's an appeal to Trump I am sure for exactly that reason. Russia does not honor agreements. This is fact and inarguable.

Russia isn't losing, but their force disposition, quality, effectiveness, and overall outlook probably have not been lower since the invasion start. Even the bloodbaths of Adiivka and Bakhmut don't match what Russia has suffered in the last two months. Their economy is suffering, morale is low, and their progress on the battlefield has been stopped in all but name. While there is nothing in the moment to indicate that anything in the near future will change those issues they are facing.

Russia is straight up stuck and while Ukraine is still hurting more than they are in general, Russia is catching up. Putin still can't admit it though, so he is very likely seeking time to help get his **** in order IMO. Either that, or he recognizes that Russia is probably at the peak right now of what they can leverage in a peace agreement and every week loses more of that leverage. So it may be genuine? Not giving him the benefit of a doubt on that one though. Not with his history.
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If you look at Russia's other requirements as part of this deal, you can see why Russia says that they're willing to concede unoccupied parts of the four claimed oblasts. Their requirements preclude any ability for Ukraine to meaningfully contest them if they come back later on and try to finish the job. Elimination of NATO presence in the Baltics, hamstring Ukrainian military capabilities, prohibit the presence of peacekeepers anywhere that they could get in Russia's way. Yep. This is totally a good faith proposal.
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Rossticus said:

If you look at Russia's other requirements as part of this deal, you can see why Russia says that they're willing to concede unoccupied parts of the four claimed oblasts. Their requirements preclude any ability for Ukraine to meaningfully contest them if they come back later on and try to finish the job. Elimination of NATO presence in the Baltics, hamstring Ukrainian military capabilities, prohibit the presence of peacekeepers anywhere that they could get in Russia's way. Yep. This is totally a good faith proposal.

Yep. You could summarize the deal in one sentence as "Give me some breathing room to reload while you move any meaningful opposition out of my way."
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pagerman @ work said:

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Why would a peace deal n ed to take until spring of next year?

Sounds like a BS way for Putin/Russia to buy time. The energy strike must be killing their economy.

They aren't done overnight.

Look at the Korean war. The peace talks there went on for quite a long time -- I think a couple of years or more.
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Looks like we're going to crank that Russian domestic unrest up another notch.
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Stop paying your military in the middle of an unpopular stalemate war. Doesn't seem like the best plan IMO.
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