Russian army is firing from all sides upon Zaporizhzhia NPP, the largest nuclear power plant in Europe. Fire has already broke out. If it blows up, it will be 10 times larger than Chornobyl! Russians must IMMEDIATELY cease the fire, allow firefighters, establish a security zone!
— Dmytro Kuleba (@DmytroKuleba) March 4, 2022
***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]
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This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
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Htownag11 said:
Do yall have a stream with sound???
No sound
What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
BOOM! I would thinkaggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
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The field level troops may not have even been told it was a nuke. They might have just been told it was a power plantDCPD158 said:
This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
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Welp, there goes plans for developing nuclear energy again. Thanks Russia.
If the reactors are still running it all melts down. If not it still makes a huge radioactive messaggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
DCPD158 said:
This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
This same military accidentally shot down a civilian airliner in 2014. Hell, these idiots on the ground may not even know what they're shooting at.
DCPD158 said:BOOM! I would thinkaggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Mostly likely not at first. Instead, you would probably have a Three Mile Island event first where the reactor fuel starts melting and settling in the bottom of pressure vessel.
At worst, they start bleeding steam pressure into the main containment building which acts as a large buffer to contain radioactive material. If it keeps up, however, I would eventually be concerned with radiation release to nature.
The remaining water inside the reactor vessel will boil off and, if there's enough, cause an explosion as described. Difference is these are PWRs not BWRs so they have stronger containment buildings than what was at ***ushima so less likely of a chance the physical building explodes. Once the core is dry it would melt.aggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
If there isn't enough water inside the core to boil off and cause an explosion, then it will just boil off and the fuel will melt.
Ukes claiming they're shelling the plant. Russia claiming all fighting taking place away from reactors. Here's an aerial to draw your own conclusions.
Looks like red = Russian convoy, yellow = possible Ukrainian positions, blue = the office building that seems to be on fire pic.twitter.com/1uAMD7A7MX
— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) March 4, 2022
INCREASED RADIATION LEVELS HAVE BEEN RECORDED AT THE ZAPORIZHZHIA NUCLEAR POWER STATION IN UKRAINE - AP.
— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) March 4, 2022
Maybe they're just trying to "de-nazifi" it
DCPD158 said:
This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
A statement is being drafted as we speak that the Ukrainians I mean Nazis are the ones that shot up their own nuclear plant
Irish 2.0 said:INCREASED RADIATION LEVELS HAVE BEEN RECORDED AT THE ZAPORIZHZHIA NUCLEAR POWER STATION IN UKRAINE - AP.
— Breaking News | FinancialJuice (@Financialjuice1) March 4, 2022
Like omg there's a leak or omg were going to all get thyroid cancer?
Depends on the reactor design but my non nuclear scientist view would be a meltdown of the reactor.aggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Also if you damage the power supply to the reactors the same thing would happen. Based on a fire at the plant site this does not look good
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PearlJammin said:
I think this will trigger Europe to jump in. Good lord.
At some point, someone is going to have to step in.
It's one thing kill all those "other" folks, but when Russia starts acting in a way that could kill "us" folks, it might demand a response
Who is the statement for? If we can see it then so can anyone else in the West. Maybe for his own country? But he could just lie/fake it for them.GAC06 said:DCPD158 said:
This is proof that the Russian army is, in fact, as stupid as their battle plans seemed to be. Firing on a nuke plant is negative IQ level stupid.
A statement is being drafted as we speak that the Ukrainians I mean Nazis are the ones that shot up their own nuclear plant
So effing stupid...
Edit to clarify - the "stupid" comment is for the Russians, not GAC06
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Looks like we will lose the nuke plant feed eventually because building connected to it appears to be on fire
Fightin_Aggie said:Depends on the reactor design but my non nuclear scientist view would be a meltdown of the reactor.aggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Also if you damage the power supply to the reactors the same thing would happen. Based on a fire at the plant site this does not look good
US nuke plants have emergency diesel generators to ensure continuity of power in case the outside power supply stops with enough fuel to last for a while. However, I have no idea if they have these systems at this plant.
Statement is for anyone who will believe it
Wonder if this will bring the US into the fight now. Putin must be stopped.
I don't know if it has been mentioned before, but the reactors at the plant are VVER-1000 pressurized water reactors, not the RBMKs that Chernobyl had. Not that it matters if you blow one up, but they can't go boom on their own.
These are the reactors at this plantFightin_Aggie said:Depends on the reactor design but my non nuclear scientist view would be a meltdown of the reactor.aggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Also if you damage the power supply to the reactors the same thing would happen. Based on a fire at the plant site this does not look good
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VVER
******* Putin
Any chance we can launch some cruise missiles into Russia?
It looks like this is an office building, away from the reactors. The problem is you don't know whether the Russians know where the control rooms are or where the "no hit" areas are. You can't trust these idiots to hit anything accurately.
Anyone found a nuclear plant feed without the spinning buffering wheel?
If you are playing from the Texags window, load it from the Youtube site instead. That's what worked for me.
Then the least of our concerns will be a nuclear plant in Ukraine.Bubblez said:
Any chance we can launch some cruise missiles into Russia?
Putin lives by the ethos of if there can be no Russia, ther can be no world.
I guess there could be some human "targets" in there that Putin wants to kill.
Wow this is really bad these buildings seem to be very close to a reactor... Like they're all going to be able to catch each other on fire
VVERs have diesel backup. They are essentially the same as any other PWR around the world.SwigAg11 said:Fightin_Aggie said:Depends on the reactor design but my non nuclear scientist view would be a meltdown of the reactor.aggiehawg said:What if the water is cut off from the cooling operations?SwigAg11 said:jabberwalkie09 said:Nuclear power plants can't just shutdown immediately from what I know. I'm hoping a nuke engineer could fill in the blanks a bit more here.hunter2012 said:
Surely when the shelling has gotten close they powered down or greatly restrained the plant. Having it running full bore in the physical middle of a battle does not seem smart. People keep saying things the Russians won't do, but that appears to be just another line that they're willing to cross to save face in terms of looking like the old bully Russia.
Nuke engineer here. Nuclear plants can do an emergency shutdown called a SCRAM. However, there is still a lot of residual heat that still needs to be removed from the reactor for a long time. The danger is if the Russians damage the systems that handle the prolonged core cooling. That's what happened at ***ushima, they lost long term heat removal, and then a steam blowoff had to occur which is what you saw from the videos of the roofs popping off. Chernobyl was a steam explosion stemming from a variety of reasons.
Also if you damage the power supply to the reactors the same thing would happen. Based on a fire at the plant site this does not look good
US nuke plants have emergency diesel generators to ensure continuity of power in case the outside power supply stops with enough fuel to last for a while. However, I have no idea if they have these systems at this plant.
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