That would set off a chain of events the World does not want to witness.
Joseydog said:Radiationaggiehawg said:
Iodine tablets? What for?
Would NATO provide air cover for them?Quote:
Again, it's a virtual certainty that Polish supplies are transferred to Ukrainian transport at their shared border.
Of course those Ukrainian trucks are at risk on their return run, but they won't be lined up in nice, neat, easily identified convoys, they'll be dispersed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermobaric_weaponCentral Committee said:Nitro Power said:Zero chance Russia uses a nuclear weapon of any payloadaggiehawg said:
Radiation and water purification. So the fear is Russia will use nukes or bomb their water infrastructure.
A popular Russian theory of warfare in the European theater is to use tactical nukes an an effort to 'quickly sue for peace.' Russia knows they cannot win an air war in Europe and that the NATO forces would quickly get air superiority.
This is why the introduction of the Pershing missile by the US in the 80's helped end the Cold War. The Pershing was the great equalizer to the massive Russian armored ground forces.
Nitro Power said:
Again...zero chance...at any payload...
That would set off a chain of events the World does not want to witness.
*CHINA FOREIGN MINISTRY ISSUES STATEMENT ON UKRAINE CRISIS
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
*CHINA SAYS UKRAINE'S TERRITORY, SOVEREIGNTY SHOULD BE RESPECTED
*CHINA URGES TALKS BETWEEN RUSSIA, UKRAINE AS SOON AS FEASIBLE
*CHINA CALLS FOR DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION TO UKRAINE CRISIS
That would be combat ops. It would require a formal meeting of the Atlantic Council and unanimous agreement from all NATO members. Not happening.aggiehawg said:Would NATO provide air cover for them?Quote:
Again, it's a virtual certainty that Polish supplies are transferred to Ukrainian transport at their shared border.
Of course those Ukrainian trucks are at risk on their return run, but they won't be lined up in nice, neat, easily identified convoys, they'll be dispersed.
that seems contrary to what China had pledged earlier.Keegan99 said:*CHINA FOREIGN MINISTRY ISSUES STATEMENT ON UKRAINE CRISIS
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
*CHINA SAYS UKRAINE'S TERRITORY, SOVEREIGNTY SHOULD BE RESPECTED
*CHINA URGES TALKS BETWEEN RUSSIA, UKRAINE AS SOON AS FEASIBLE
*CHINA CALLS FOR DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION TO UKRAINE CRISIS
17:44 — The Kharkiv Regional Children's Hospital, located on Klochkovskaya Street, came under enemy fire. #StatusUkraine #CivilianCasualties
— Lesia Vasylenko (@lesiavasylenko) February 25, 2022
PR pap for the gullible. If the CCP's lips are moving..........oldmanguy said:that seems contrary to what China had pledged earlier.Keegan99 said:*CHINA FOREIGN MINISTRY ISSUES STATEMENT ON UKRAINE CRISIS
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
*CHINA SAYS UKRAINE'S TERRITORY, SOVEREIGNTY SHOULD BE RESPECTED
*CHINA URGES TALKS BETWEEN RUSSIA, UKRAINE AS SOON AS FEASIBLE
*CHINA CALLS FOR DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION TO UKRAINE CRISIS
this coupled with the financial side.... China is either very adept at slight of hand or they are equally drunk on the tit of lots of money as much of the West.
#UPDATE: 5 explosions heard in Kyiv reportedly near power plant
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 25, 2022
Chechen soldiers part of the Russian Armed Forces have been ambushed by Ukrainian forces earlier today. We cut the video as graphic content was showed. pic.twitter.com/n44G6LAzJZ
— CaucasusWarReport (@Caucasuswar) February 25, 2022
LMCane said:jabberwalkie09 said:TRM said:Finland isn't part of NATO, but Russia just threatened them today if they apply.jabberwalkie09 said:Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL
— Aki Heikkinen (@akihheikkinen) February 25, 2022
NATO/we are rapidly moving into a war footing imo. I fully expect the NATO response force to be reinforced with additional units.
I'm aware of their status and their renewed interest. However, my statement is more towards the general situation and reaction of NATO to the situation in eastern Europe.#BREAKING: NATO to provide more weapons including air defense systems to Ukraine- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 25, 2022
this can't be real.
where does NATO think they will be able to put SAMs into Ukraine?!
there are likely no more flights by Uke aircraft anywhere around the country.
no way NATO sends in C-17s to Kyiv (and if they do that is a death wish and WWIII)
that seems to be massive disinformation or mistranslation
unless Stoltenberg just talking about trying to smuggle more Stingers across the Polish border.
that is really not going to do anything getting a few SUVs to carry equipment from Lviv.
Keegan99 said:*CHINA FOREIGN MINISTRY ISSUES STATEMENT ON UKRAINE CRISIS
— *Walter Bloomberg (@DeItaone) February 25, 2022
*CHINA SAYS UKRAINE'S TERRITORY, SOVEREIGNTY SHOULD BE RESPECTED
*CHINA URGES TALKS BETWEEN RUSSIA, UKRAINE AS SOON AS FEASIBLE
*CHINA CALLS FOR DIPLOMATIC RESOLUTION TO UKRAINE CRISIS
I did as well. $57 for an 8 year shelf life, seems like a good investment to me.wessimo said:Joseydog said:Radiationaggiehawg said:
Iodine tablets? What for?
www.nukepills.com
Just placed an order
Jsimonds58 said:
We have pre staged all the gear a long time ago, basically we fly the units over and they just fall in on the equipment already waiting for them
Lots of this territory is also deep under NATO air umbrella and you have to remember without live recon cruise missiles probably won't be effective and the legs on the Russian aircraft aren't great.jabberwalkie09 said:LMCane said:jabberwalkie09 said:TRM said:Finland isn't part of NATO, but Russia just threatened them today if they apply.jabberwalkie09 said:Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL
— Aki Heikkinen (@akihheikkinen) February 25, 2022
NATO/we are rapidly moving into a war footing imo. I fully expect the NATO response force to be reinforced with additional units.
I'm aware of their status and their renewed interest. However, my statement is more towards the general situation and reaction of NATO to the situation in eastern Europe.#BREAKING: NATO to provide more weapons including air defense systems to Ukraine- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 25, 2022
this can't be real.
where does NATO think they will be able to put SAMs into Ukraine?!
there are likely no more flights by Uke aircraft anywhere around the country.
no way NATO sends in C-17s to Kyiv (and if they do that is a death wish and WWIII)
that seems to be massive disinformation or mistranslation
unless Stoltenberg just talking about trying to smuggle more Stingers across the Polish border.
that is really not going to do anything getting a few SUVs to carry equipment from Lviv.
Oh it's real and it's happening. A Polish minister confirmed having handed over equipment to the Ukrainians. You are aware that Ukraine shares land borders with Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and Romania who are all NATO members? There's quite a bit of real estate there for stuff to cross over I would think.
Having thought on this for a bit longer, I really see this as more of a dare by NATO and us to see Putin's reaction much like his moves over the last couple of months.
It'll be MANPADS and Poland has already supplied a lot of those to Ukraine. This will be resupply. Polish convoy to border, loads transfer to Ukrainian transport there. Dispersed routes back into Ukraine. MANPADSjabberwalkie09 said:LMCane said:jabberwalkie09 said:TRM said:Finland isn't part of NATO, but Russia just threatened them today if they apply.jabberwalkie09 said:Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL
— Aki Heikkinen (@akihheikkinen) February 25, 2022
NATO/we are rapidly moving into a war footing imo. I fully expect the NATO response force to be reinforced with additional units.
I'm aware of their status and their renewed interest. However, my statement is more towards the general situation and reaction of NATO to the situation in eastern Europe.#BREAKING: NATO to provide more weapons including air defense systems to Ukraine- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 25, 2022
this can't be real.
where does NATO think they will be able to put SAMs into Ukraine?!
there are likely no more flights by Uke aircraft anywhere around the country.
no way NATO sends in C-17s to Kyiv (and if they do that is a death wish and WWIII)
that seems to be massive disinformation or mistranslation
unless Stoltenberg just talking about trying to smuggle more Stingers across the Polish border.
that is really not going to do anything getting a few SUVs to carry equipment from Lviv.
Oh it's real and it's happening. A Polish minister confirmed having handed over equipment to the Ukrainians. You are aware that Ukraine shares land borders with Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and Romania who are all NATO members? There's quite a bit of real estate there for stuff to cross over I would think.
Having thought on this for a bit longer, I really see this as more of a dare by NATO and us to see Putin's reaction much like his moves over the last couple of months.
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This is why the introduction of the Pershing missile by the US in the 80's helped end the Cold War. The Pershing was the great equalizer to the massive Russian armored ground forces.
74OA said:It'll be MANPADS and Poland has already supplied a lot of those to Ukraine. This will be resupply. Polish convoy to border, loads transfer to Ukrainian transport there. Dispersed routes back into Ukraine. MANPADSjabberwalkie09 said:LMCane said:jabberwalkie09 said:TRM said:Finland isn't part of NATO, but Russia just threatened them today if they apply.jabberwalkie09 said:Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL
— Aki Heikkinen (@akihheikkinen) February 25, 2022
NATO/we are rapidly moving into a war footing imo. I fully expect the NATO response force to be reinforced with additional units.
I'm aware of their status and their renewed interest. However, my statement is more towards the general situation and reaction of NATO to the situation in eastern Europe.#BREAKING: NATO to provide more weapons including air defense systems to Ukraine- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg
— ELINT News (@ELINTNews) February 25, 2022
this can't be real.
where does NATO think they will be able to put SAMs into Ukraine?!
there are likely no more flights by Uke aircraft anywhere around the country.
no way NATO sends in C-17s to Kyiv (and if they do that is a death wish and WWIII)
that seems to be massive disinformation or mistranslation
unless Stoltenberg just talking about trying to smuggle more Stingers across the Polish border.
that is really not going to do anything getting a few SUVs to carry equipment from Lviv.
Oh it's real and it's happening. A Polish minister confirmed having handed over equipment to the Ukrainians. You are aware that Ukraine shares land borders with Hungary, Slovakia, Poland, and Romania who are all NATO members? There's quite a bit of real estate there for stuff to cross over I would think.
Having thought on this for a bit longer, I really see this as more of a dare by NATO and us to see Putin's reaction much like his moves over the last couple of months.
nm.CS78 said:Quote:
This is why the introduction of the Pershing missile by the US in the 80's helped end the Cold War. The Pershing was the great equalizer to the massive Russian armored ground forces.
My dad was one of the trigger men on a Pershing missile battery in Germany in the 70s. Said the night Nixon resigned, they weren't given any other information but to remove the lock pins from the system. Major pucker.
We have prepositioned heavy equipment in several key locations throughout Europe and at sea for this specific instance.aggie orbitalwelder said:
How much preposition heavy equipment is there in Europe?
Would units like 1cav, 1 infantry and 4 infantry have to ship most of their armor with them
Physical tagging devices, likely used for infrared beacon devices, planted by Russian saboteurs all over Ukraine (likely creating a “breadcrumb” paths for Russian invaders).
— Walter Lekh🇺🇦 (@walterlekh) February 25, 2022
Used with concert with an app called “Premise” that provides the saboteurs with a map with a drop spots. https://t.co/k8rFzdXlT3
Jsimonds58 said:
We have pre staged all the gear a long time ago, basically we fly the units over and they just fall in on the equipment already waiting for them
Russia has destroyed #Kyiv's power plant. City is now in the dark.
— The Intel Crab (@IntelCrab) February 25, 2022
Despite rumors that Russia has destroyed #Kyiv's power plant, it seems most districts still have electricity. https://t.co/ovqRIvMkWX
— The Intel Crab (@IntelCrab) February 25, 2022