***Russian - Ukraine War Tactical and Strategic Updates*** [Warning on OP]

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Could have been a shelter
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NATO secretary general said a cyber attack on a member nation could trigger Article 5!!!
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NATO and US now on record to re-supply.
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LMCane said:

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Jesus Christ. Strela-10 runs over civilian vehicle and the driver miraculously survives.
That's miraculous
What kind of car is that?

They just got their best advertisement in an awful event.
Is that barbaric

or are they worried about suicide car bombs like we experienced every day in Iraq?
No, there have been no reports of suicide bombers even from the Russians.
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I am sure putin isn't too terribly concerned about any NATO articles, ROE, etc.

I sincerely believe that man is crazed, depraved, and itching for a full scale, especially with china perhaps in cahoots.
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oneeyedag said:

Where do I sign up on the bulk purchase 9mm plan?
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oneeyedag said:

I am sure putin isn't too terribly concerned about any NATO articles, ROE, etc.

I sincerely believe that man is crazed, depraved, and itching for a full scale, especially with china perhaps in cahoots.
This is getting very dangerous. Plausible deniability on assistance and protection of Ukraine is out the window. The west is daring Putin to escalate. I don't understand all the public announcements.
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We've been publicly flying plane loads of anti tank missiles to Ukraine for a month or more. There's already wasn't plausible deniability
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Iodine tablets? What for?
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Exactly!
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aggiehawg said:

Iodine tablets? What for?
Radiation
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and water purification
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It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.
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Potassium iodide prophylaxis for acute radiation toxicity and or cleaning of drinking water during emergencies.
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GAC06 said:

We've been publicly flying plane loads of anti tank missiles to Ukraine for a month or more. There's already wasn't plausible deniability

Right, but the difference is that we aren't going to be just sending aid in the way of intelligence since the invasion started. I can't see how Putin views material aid as much more than provocation and escalation.

Thoughts?
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GarryowenAg said:

It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.


We aren't in any position to do that
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Radiation and water purification. So the fear is Russia will use nukes or bomb their water infrastructure.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

GAC06 said:

We've been publicly flying plane loads of anti tank missiles to Ukraine for a month or more. There's already wasn't plausible deniability

Right, but the difference is that we aren't going to be just sending aid in the way of intelligence since the invasion started. I can't see how Putin views material aid as much more than provocation and escalation.

Thoughts?
He was warned not to take it passed Donbass...
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Water towers use electric pumps. No electricity, no water after a few hours
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aggiehawg said:

Radiation and water purification. So the fear is Russia will use nukes or bomb their water infrastructure.
Zero chance Russia uses a nuclear weapon of any payload
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jabberwalkie09 said:

GAC06 said:

We've been publicly flying plane loads of anti tank missiles to Ukraine for a month or more. There's already wasn't plausible deniability

Right, but the difference is that we aren't going to be just sending aid in the way of intelligence since the invasion started. I can't see how Putin views material aid as much more than provocation and escalation.

Thoughts?
yes, and why broadcast intent to the enemy?
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Nah. LIkely because of the Russians stirring up **** in Chernobyl
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GAC06 said:

Water towers use electric pumps. No electricity, no water after a few hours
Got it.
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This is what I think as well
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GarryowenAg said:

It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.


Ukraine, as far as their government is concerned, is pretty much done. Their president is making it seem like he wants to die in the ashes of their capital.
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GAC06 said:

GarryowenAg said:

It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.


We aren't in any position to do that
The Russians aren't in any position to escalate either. They are well stretched in Ukraine right now.
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GAC06 said:

Water towers use electric pumps. No electricity, no water after a few hours
Especially with firefighting operations and wrecked buildings spewing water from busted pipes.
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or they are worried about radiation blowing from Chernobyl.
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Chernobyl issues. The amount of radiation seeping out there is measured in sieverts. Above 10k approximately about 30 days before you die.

Depending on the wind, and how many sieverts are in the air, the damage could filter into the water system, or worse be sorta to a nuke.
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rgag12 said:

GarryowenAg said:

It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.


Ukraine, as far as their government is concerned, is pretty much done. Their president is making it seem like he wants to die in the ashes of their capital.
Sounds like a leader. Sounds like our founding generation. Our leaders today look much different.
Hold on honey, there are people on the internet that are wrong.
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htownag10 said:

I was scrutinized when I brought this up about Finland during the first 8 pages of this thread but here we are...
I questioned it because it made zero sense both historically and strategically for Putin to involve Finland. It still doesn't. Attacking Finland would represent a huge international escalation of hostilities that would not fail to trigger stronger sanctions and military responses. And as others pointed out, Putin doesn't have the resources to fight two fronts.
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2wealfth Man said:

GAC06 said:

GarryowenAg said:

It's almost as if we're TRYING to get Putin to engage, so we can swoop in to help Ukraine.


We aren't in any position to do that
The Russians aren't in any position to escalate either. They are well stretched in Ukraine right now.
They have aircraft in the air and missiles that can hit Europe. They most definitely could lash out.
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