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That's not good, Osa's make up the majority of Ukraine's mid-low altitude level (helicopter+ CAS) defenses. What was the Ukranians thinking? The Osa is a (relatively small) highly mobile, amphibious unit with its own radar and fire control. Break up the units and move separately.

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LMCane said:

I think a pretty obvious takeaway conclusion is that the Ukrainians may be brave, but they are nearly idiotic in their military tactics and deployments.

I was just a Captain in the Air Force, but after reading history books for the last 30 years I could have prepared a stronger defense than Zelensky did.

just read books on what the Germans did to the Soviets in Ukraine in the fall of 1941!!

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GAC06 said:

Jesus dude. No. You couldn't.

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Heavy Anti-Aircraft fire against Russian Aircraft and Missiles from the Sea in the Ukrainian Coastal city of Odessa where the Ukrainian Navy is Based. https://t.co/YTDipWiVNx

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Canadian special forces are actually legit, we probably have some on the ground helping out. Since we have planes in the area we likely have combat controllers with the green berets

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OMG could you imagine what Putin would do if the Russians captured US military personnel?!?!

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and this is the problem- while some Ukes are very brave, they have no tactical ability or even common sense.

this is about the worst possible way to try to defend an urban area

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That looks kind of staged to me, like they're conducting drills. Just like watching. The Russian soldiers CNN conduct squad movements on TV yesterday.

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That's not good, Osa's make up the majority of Ukraine's mid-low altitude level (helicopter+ CAS) defenses. What was the Ukranians thinking? The Osa is a (relatively small) highly mobile, amphibious unit with its own radar and fire control. Break up the units and move separately.

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I think a pretty obvious takeaway conclusion is that the Ukrainians may be brave, but they are nearly idiotic in their military tactics and deployments.

I was just a Captain in the Air Force, but after reading history books for the last 30 years I could have prepared a stronger defense than Zelensky did.

just read books on what the Germans did to the Soviets in Ukraine in the fall of 1941!!

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Data from the Automated Radiation Control System of the Exclusion Zone, which are available online, indicate that the control levels of gamma radiation dose rate (red dots) have been exceeded at a significant part of the observation points. Due to the occupation and hostilities, it is currently impossible to establish the reasons for the change in the radiation background in the exclusion zone.

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and this is the problem- while some Ukes are very brave, they have no tactical ability or even common sense.

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GAC06 said:

Or it's a photo op. They've been at war for eight years.

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Reuters claims it was a new photo just taken in Kyiv

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That's not good, Osa's make up the majority of Ukraine's mid-low altitude level (helicopter+ CAS) defenses. What was the Ukranians thinking? The Osa is a (relatively small) highly mobile, amphibious unit with its own radar and fire control. Break up the units and move separately.

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LMCane said:

I think a pretty obvious takeaway conclusion is that the Ukrainians may be brave, but they are nearly idiotic in their military tactics and deployments.

I was just a Captain in the Air Force, but after reading history books for the last 30 years I could have prepared a stronger defense than Zelensky did.

just read books on what the Germans did to the Soviets in Ukraine in the fall of 1941!!

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GAC06 said:

Jesus dude. No. You couldn't.

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100%, this is Barnes.

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The U.S. met with China over three months to present intelligence showing Russia’s troop buildup near Ukraine and to urge Beijing to help avert war, U.S. officials said.

Chinese officials rebuffed the U.S. and shared the information with Moscow.https://t.co/Ngbuu9P3n1

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WASHINGTON Over three months, senior Biden administration officials held half a dozen urgent meetings with top Chinese officials in which the Americans presented intelligence showing Russia's troop buildup around Ukraine and beseeched the Chinese to tell Russia not to invade, according to U.S. officials.

Each time, the Chinese officials, including the foreign minister and the ambassador to the United States, rebuffed the Americans, saying they did not think an invasion was in the works. After one diplomatic exchange in December, U.S. officials got intelligence showing Beijing had shared the information with Moscow, telling the Russians that the United States was trying to sow discord and that China would not try to impede Russian plans and actions, the officials said

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#BREAKING #Ukraine's interior ministry says several sabotage groups have been destroyed in #Kyiv, saboteurs also appear in other cities. It adds that police is asking to identify people with Russian accent who "suddenly arrived" in their region

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Another convoy of Polish ammunition has reached the Ukrainians, the Polish MOD says. Via @visegrad24

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Or it's a photo op. They've been at war for eight years.

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According to intelligence, Russia plans a massive false flag operation to ‘dehumanize’ Ukrainians and accuse Ukraine of alleged inhuman actions. Don’t trust fakes. Ukraine defends its land in a just and defensive war. Unlike Russia, we don’t target kindergartens and civilians.

— Dmytro Kuleba (@DmytroKuleba) February 25, 2022

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BREAKING — NATO to provide air defense systems to Ukraine and more weapons — Stoltenberg

— Ragıp Soylu (@ragipsoylu) February 25, 2022

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BREAKING — NATO to provide air defense systems to Ukraine and more weapons — Stoltenberg

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UKRAINE: fear amongst western officials now is that Russia will start bombing Ukrainians indiscriminately and even with thermobaric weapons, if their progress continues to be impeded.

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BREAKING — NATO to provide air defense systems to Ukraine and more weapons — Stoltenberg

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"We are deploying elements of the #NATO Response Force on land, at sea and in the air to further strengthen our posture and to respond quickly to any contingency," says Sec Gen Stoltenberg.

This is the first time the force has been used for collective security. pic.twitter.com/ji1HfkdjEn

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Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL

— Aki Heikkinen (@akihheikkinen) February 25, 2022

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Exclusive: Zelensky asked from Israeli PM Bennet to mediate between #Ukraine and Russia, in the middle of the battle of #Kiev. They spoke via phone, and a source briefed about it told me: Israel is the only Western country that have a good enough relations with both countries.

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Finns buying iodine tablets and large amounts of ammunition, esp 9mm and rifle calibers sold in 400,1000,2000 pcs boxes. https://t.co/z3SJF2xvuL

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That's not good, Osa's make up the majority of Ukraine's mid-low altitude level (helicopter+ CAS) defenses. What was the Ukranians thinking? The Osa is a (relatively small) highly mobile, amphibious unit with its own radar and fire control. Break up the units and move separately.

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I think a pretty obvious takeaway conclusion is that the Ukrainians may be brave, but they are nearly idiotic in their military tactics and deployments.

I was just a Captain in the Air Force, but after reading history books for the last 30 years I could have prepared a stronger defense than Zelensky did.

just read books on what the Germans did to the Soviets in Ukraine in the fall of 1941!!

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NATO/we are rapidly moving into a war footing imo. I fully expect the NATO response force to be reinforced with additional units.

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Finland isn't part of NATO, but Russia just threatened them today if they apply.

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#BREAKING: NATO to provide more weapons including air defense systems to Ukraine- NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg

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