Alec Baldwin may be in some hot water

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http://www.halynahutchinsdp.com/bio

Halyna Hutchins is a Los Angeles based union cinematographer who graduated from the AFI conservatory in 2015 and has since established a track record of successful narrative features . Halyna was selected as one of American Cinematographer's Rising Stars of 2019 as well as a cinematographer for the 21st Century Fox DP Lab in 2018.
Her work on Adam Egypt Mortimer's art house superhero action film Archenemy, starring Joe Manganiello, premiered at Beyond Fest 2020 and was in official competition at the Sitges International Film Festival, receiving a nomination for Best Motion Picture.

Originally from Ukraine, Halyna grew up on a Soviet military base in the Arctic Circle surrounded by reindeer and nuclear submarines. She holds a graduate degree in International Journalism from Kyiv National University in Ukraine and previously worked as an investigative journalist with British documentary productions in Europe.

Halyna's recent work also includes Blindfire, racially charged cop drama written and directed by Mike Nell starring Brian Geraghty (The Hurt Locker, TNT's The Alienist) and Sharon Leal (Supergirl, Instinct),winner of Best Crime Drama at the Houston International Film Festival, 2020.

Darlin', a horror feature lensed by Hutchins and directed by Pollyanna McIntosh (The Walking Dead), has premiered at the SXSW film festival 2019 with limited theatrical release in the US while playing internationally at the Edinburgh Film Festival, Fantasia, London FrightFest, BiFan, Sitges, Galway Film Fleadh (Best International Film nomination), Fangoria Chainsaw Awards (Best First Feature nomination).


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Interesting background.
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As of this morning she was a "dear friends" and "an amazing talent" known by everyone in hollywood.
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Shannon T-Watts giving Hollywood a pass....







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But... twice? I get once. I mean... twice, though?
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Treat every firearm as if loaded!
Never point any firearm at something you don't want to kill!
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I can't believe there may have been live rounds on set. I mean, with the price of ammo these days, that's absurd!
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Womackster said:

But... twice? I get once. I mean... twice, though?
Probably squeezed of a bunch of shots in rapid succession at the camera for a scene. It's likely he didn't know anything was wrong until after all shots were fired.

Especially if he had theatrical lighting on him, anything behind the camera would be dark and hard to see.
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1) I remember seeing some stunt men shoot an empty coke can at point blank range with a blank round. It blew a hole in the can about the size of a silver dollar through both sides of the can. These are not starter pistols or cap guns.

2) If you are practicing a scene where you are squeezing off multiple rounds at a time, I could see shooting two people before you realize what is going on.

3) Actors need to be trained to load their own guns before a scene. There is no way that I am handling a prop gun assuming there are blanks in that gun unless I physically put those blanks in there.
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Why would there be live ammo on a movie set to begin with?
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I'm sorry for the victims

not a fan a Baldwins politics, I do enjoy his acting

Brandon Lee(Bruce Lee's son) died a similar fate
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YouBet said:

Was he on set of The Crow?
That's what this makes me think of.

I doubt they were using live ammunition, but even still I'm sure there's a risk of something bad happening.
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Just speculating a bit more on the gun being pointed at the camera at very close range... it's possible that the blast (even from a blank round) could have shattered the optics in the lens (think hundreds of pieces of glass shrapnel) and other equipment. It's one of the few ways my brain can get to two critical injuries from one discharge.
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Alec Baldwin's fake gun has killed more people than my guns.
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We will never give up our guns Steve, we don't care if there is a mass shooting every day of the week.
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BusterAg said:

1) I remember seeing some stunt men shoot an empty coke can at point blank range with a blank round. It blew a hole in the can about the size of a silver dollar through both sides of the can. These are not starter pistols or cap guns.

2) If you are practicing a scene where you are squeezing off multiple rounds at a time, I could see shooting two people before you realize what is going on.

3) Actors need to be trained to load their own guns before a scene. There is no way that I am handling a prop gun assuming there are blanks in that gun unless I physically put those blanks in there.
I'm going to assume with the number of consultants and SME's they use in film that Baldwin has received proper training and safety around firearms long before this. What could easily have happened here is that he ignored that training because he is one of the most arrogant, mean, egotistical, narcissistic (irony) people around.

I'm not saying this because of his politics. His past behavior has proven it.
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akm91 said:

Why would there be live ammo on a movie set to begin with?

Do we know for certain it was a live round?
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YouBet said:

BusterAg said:

1) I remember seeing some stunt men shoot an empty coke can at point blank range with a blank round. It blew a hole in the can about the size of a silver dollar through both sides of the can. These are not starter pistols or cap guns.

2) If you are practicing a scene where you are squeezing off multiple rounds at a time, I could see shooting two people before you realize what is going on.

3) Actors need to be trained to load their own guns before a scene. There is no way that I am handling a prop gun assuming there are blanks in that gun unless I physically put those blanks in there.
I'm going to assume with the number of consultants and SME's they use in film that Baldwin has received proper training and safety around firearms long before this. What could easily have happened here is that he ignored that training because he is one of the most arrogant, mean, egotistical, narcissistic (irony) people around.

I'm not saying this because of his politics. His past behavior has proven it.
I seriously doubt that its SOE for actors to load their own prop guns. But, it should be.

Do you know otherwise?
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agdaddy04 said:

akm91 said:

Why would there be live ammo on a movie set to begin with?

Do we know for certain it was a live round?
Im gonna say no at this time
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BusterAg said:

YouBet said:

BusterAg said:

1) I remember seeing some stunt men shoot an empty coke can at point blank range with a blank round. It blew a hole in the can about the size of a silver dollar through both sides of the can. These are not starter pistols or cap guns.

2) If you are practicing a scene where you are squeezing off multiple rounds at a time, I could see shooting two people before you realize what is going on.

3) Actors need to be trained to load their own guns before a scene. There is no way that I am handling a prop gun assuming there are blanks in that gun unless I physically put those blanks in there.
I'm going to assume with the number of consultants and SME's they use in film that Baldwin has received proper training and safety around firearms long before this. What could easily have happened here is that he ignored that training because he is one of the most arrogant, mean, egotistical, narcissistic (irony) people around.

I'm not saying this because of his politics. His past behavior has proven it.
I seriously doubt that its SOE for actors to load their own prop guns. But, it should be.

Do you know otherwise?
No, agree there. I conflated your post with others saying maybe he just didn't know any better from a training standpoint which I find highly dubious.

I would suspect you are correct. I can't imagine he would be loading his own rounds. Hell, it's probably a union rule that he can't.
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milner79 said:

05AG said:

If I learned anything from Lonesome Dove it is that killing someone by accident isn't a big deal. They won't hang you for it.

You know the rules, Jake: You ride with an outlaw, you die with an outlaw.


They didn't think it too serious though when he shot a dentist unintentionally.
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This sounds like an episode of Law & Order.
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Coming in hot......
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Ok...
So WHO was responsible for the weapons on set? Some scenes use blanks, some use dummy rounds of some type, some scense might call for live rounds and live fire. Fine. No big deal.

BUT, real guns, fake guns, someone has to be responsible for that stuff! Even pyrotechnics, you have trained and licensed people in charge of that stuff.

Using firearms? Then the firearm specialist/whatever preps the set the scene is shot, and no one leaves until all of the weapons are accounted for and secured. Simply put there is no excuse.
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Moon Shadow said:

Treat every firearm as if loaded!
Never point any firearm at something you don't want to kill!
As I posted above, Hollywood is one of the only, if not the only, place you are instructed to point a gun at people. Based on who was shot, the scene likely called on having the gun pointed the camera and for him to pull the trigger.
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Apparently he was saying this after being interviewed by sheriffs dept.

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"In all my years, I've never been handed a hot gun."


Dunno if he meant hot as in safety off or loaded with real bullets.
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There are specialized prop guides on sets who handle weapons. The are usually called an Armorer or a Prop Master.
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Who was the last person to handle the weapon? Can't automatically skip backwards in time and start with the props guys. What did Baldwin do? Start there.

I feel sorry for the victims.
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Clob94 said:




Coming in hot......
That's not cool. If he is handed a revolver, what's he supposed to do. Pull ever bullet out and check that it's a blank?

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Can't automatically skip backwards in time and start with the props guys. What did Baldwin do? Start there.
Yeah, you go through the chain of custody, but I doubt Baldwin pulled the blanks out and put in real bullets. From what I can tell the dude barely knows what a gun is.
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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

Cromagnum said:

SB 43rd STREET OG said:

AverageJones said:



What the hell is live ammunition doing on a film set?


Even if complete accident, hope he fries.


A complete accident twice? I see no scenario where a prop gun could be accidentally discharged and injure one person and kill another unless it was shot more than once.


As a well trained individual, I'd have a hard time racking up two casualties with one intentional discharge. I agree with you. My pt was just that I want to see evil white liberal mouth pieces like him get punished just for being who they are.

Only way I could see this being possible is if he was being stupid with what he was convinced was a prop fully auto. Hold down the trigger for a second with a full auto and I could see it spraying multiple people.

This is shady AF. And even in that pic, he looks like a soulless psycho.
Rust is a western set in the 1880. Don't think they were using Glocks or Uzis.
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What's he supposed to do?

How about not aim it at someone.

And upon failure to comply with that basic rule, how about not pulling the trigger while doing so.
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Clob94 said:


Coming in hot......

Wendy seems like a nice human being.
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Kenneth_2003 said:

Ok...
So WHO was responsible for the weapons on set? Some scenes use blanks, some use dummy rounds of some type, some scense might call for live rounds and live fire. Fine. No big deal.

BUT, real guns, fake guns, someone has to be responsible for that stuff! Even pyrotechnics, you have trained and licensed people in charge of that stuff.

Using firearms? Then the firearm specialist/whatever preps the set the scene is shot, and no one leaves until all of the weapons are accounted for and secured. Simply put there is no excuse.
The safest way is to take this very important gun safety lesson to heart:

You are 100% responsible for everything that happens when you pull the trigger on a gun. No one else. No excuses.

Don't pull the trigger unless you are 100% sure that it is safe. If you start with that assumption, you are much more likely to do that last second safety check before you start setting off rounds.

Having a dedicated "armorer" is just a way to blame shift. Yes, there should be an armorer who is responsible for keeping all live rounds out of actors hands. But, there needs to be a sense of personal accountability for the person pulling the trigger. That saves lives.

I'm not saying that what Alec did was wrong. He probably followed all safety protocols required. I am saying that the safety protocol is wrong.
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No one handling anything close to live ammunition professionally should have let that happen, including Baldwin. Serious breakdown of protocol. I get that it is done for film/acting, but I'm not picking up a revolver and pointing it at my colleagues unless I know about 1000x over that there is no way it can hurt them.

The only way this can happen is gross negligence, it's like sending someone off a bungee jump and not checking that the other end was attached.
 
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