You talk about how people shouldn't go around looking to be offended (which at no point was I ever offended by anything on this show), maybe you shouldn't attack people for their opinions.
***Ted Lasso*** (Season 4)
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Bruce Almighty said:
It did become a bit eyrolling. Keeley's bisexual relationship that felt so unnatural and forced that it felt more like clipboard checking (and I think Trent became the best character on the show before anyone accuses of me of anything), big bad oil, immigration issues, black owned restaurant being destroyed by white racists, "shut up and dribble", and rich men are evil. I don't mind political issues in tv, but it was too much, such a departure from the first season and very obviously one sided that it was a turn off.
My demon woke me up this morning and said bruh, I'm tired... So I handed him a Red Bull and said come on little buddy, we got bridges to burn and chaos to spread.
The Keely bi-sexual storyline was just bad writing. It added nothing to the story and absolutely was forced. It's the silliness similar to Will's gay speech in Stranger Things. Robyn and Collin/Trent's story was well done and flowed pretty smoothly. Keely's was just unnecessary.
Bruce Almighty said:
You talk about how people shouldn't go around looking to be offended (which at no point was I ever offended by anything on this show), maybe you shouldn't attack people for their opinions.
Who did I attack?
Your post was obviously mocking my post.
Dispatch: 911 what is your emergency?
Caller: Someone mocked my post and it highly offended me.
Dispatch: So sorry to hear this, I've written your info down, a social worker will get back to you in 3 to 5 days. thank you goodbye,
Caller: Someone mocked my post and it highly offended me.
Dispatch: So sorry to hear this, I've written your info down, a social worker will get back to you in 3 to 5 days. thank you goodbye,
My demon woke me up this morning and said bruh, I'm tired... So I handed him a Red Bull and said come on little buddy, we got bridges to burn and chaos to spread.
Bruce Almighty said:
Your post was obviously mocking my post.
It was a funny way of saying, if you don't like the show don't watch it.
Sorry if you felt attacked.
What you don't like is the show. If you don't like the show, why are you watching it?
I still feel like an idiot researching who that singer was that sounded like Marcus Mumford.
fig96 said:
If that's what they think this show is about, they've kinda missed the point of the show.
Really?
Was Ted Lasso not a football coach? Did he not get hired to serve as a football manager in England? Was it not based on an NBC commercial designed to promote the network's coverage of the Premier League?
That's the basic premise ... i.e., the point of the show. He is a fish out of water who adapts to his new surroundings as others adapt to him. It's supposed to be funny and charming.
If some people find plot lines that aren't funny or charming or feel they are ham-handed attempts at messaging, that's an okay opinion to have. We don't all have to agree.
Guys, did you hear? Christopher Nolan cast a black woman to play Helen of Troy and a trans female to male actor to play another role, quick, lets go back to that thread to discuss more!.
Rudyjax said:LeonardSkinner said:
Not to answer for them, but to the best of my understanding, "wokeness" is basically the "preachiness" of the discussion. Talking about issues is one thing, but getting into how people should feel about them and what they should do in response is another thing.
There was nothing preachy about that scene. To me it was a good way to compare the lack of women being allowed to play football. And it's not the Us that has a history of injustices. But that's just my take.
If people didn't go around looking to get offended, this world would be a better place.
And that goes for libs and maga.
I certainly wasn't saying there was anything wrong with that scene.
But, I will say that once you've heard the preachy part often enough, you start having a reaction to the non-preachy prologue. It's a Pavlovian thing sometimes.
Yes, really. And it has nothing to do with opinions on plot lines.EclipseAg said:fig96 said:
If that's what they think this show is about, they've kinda missed the point of the show.
Really?
Was Ted Lasso not a football coach? Did he not get hired to serve as a football manager in England? Was it not based on an NBC commercial designed to promote the network's coverage of the Premier League?
That's the basic premise ... i.e., the point of the show. He is a fish out of water who adapts to his new surroundings as others adapt to him. It's supposed to be funny and charming.
If some people find plots lines that aren't funny or charming or feel they are ham-handed attempts at messaging, that's an okay opinion to have. We don't all have to agree.
Like all great tv, Ted Lasso uses its setting to talk about people, relationships, and human nature. In this case, a football club.
Ted Lasso is a show about forgiveness, self acceptance, and redemption, among other things. If all you see is a "silly show about a football coach" then you genuinely haven't been paying attention.
fig96 said:EclipseAg said:fig96 said:
If that's what they think this show is about, they've kinda missed the point of the show.
Really?
Was Ted Lasso not a football coach? Did he not get hired to serve as a football manager in England? Was it not based on an NBC commercial designed to promote the network's coverage of the Premier League?
That's the basic premise ... i.e., the point of the show. He is a fish out of water who adapts to his new surroundings as others adapt to him. It's supposed to be funny and charming.
If some people find plots lines that aren't funny or charming or feel they are ham-handed attempts at messaging, that's an okay opinion to have. We don't all have to agree.
Yes, really. And it has nothing to do with opinions on plot lines.
Like all great tv, Ted Lasso uses its setting to talk about people, relationships, and human nature. In this case, a football club.
Ted Lasso is a show about forgiveness, self acceptance, and redemption, among other things. If all you see is a "silly show about a football coach" then you genuinely haven't been paying attention.
Whatever.
You can make a show about forgiveness, self-acceptance, human nature, etc., without filling it full of ham-handed "social injustice" plotlines.
You can even include social justice plotlines in a way that makes sense and flows naturally, i.e. "Mad Men."
Again, "Ted Lasso" may give you the tingles when it dredges up the Negro League as a plot device to make the point that women need soccer funding. Others roll their eyes. We don't all have to agree.
EclipseAg said:fig96 said:EclipseAg said:fig96 said:
If that's what they think this show is about, they've kinda missed the point of the show.
Really?
Was Ted Lasso not a football coach? Did he not get hired to serve as a football manager in England? Was it not based on an NBC commercial designed to promote the network's coverage of the Premier League?
That's the basic premise ... i.e., the point of the show. He is a fish out of water who adapts to his new surroundings as others adapt to him. It's supposed to be funny and charming.
If some people find plots lines that aren't funny or charming or feel they are ham-handed attempts at messaging, that's an okay opinion to have. We don't all have to agree.
Yes, really. And it has nothing to do with opinions on plot lines.
Like all great tv, Ted Lasso uses its setting to talk about people, relationships, and human nature. In this case, a football club.
Ted Lasso is a show about forgiveness, self acceptance, and redemption, among other things. If all you see is a "silly show about a football coach" then you genuinely haven't been paying attention.
Whatever.
You can make a show about forgiveness, self-acceptance, human nature, etc., without filling it full of ham-handed "social injustice" plotlines.
You can even include social justice plotlines in a way that makes sense and flows naturally, i.e. "Mad Men."
Again, "Ted Lasso" may give you the tingles when it dredges up the Negro League as a plot device to make the point that women need soccer funding. Others roll their eyes. We don't all have to agree.
I missed where I said anything about social justice or the content Ted Lasso should or shouldn't contain in the show. I even explicitly said my comment had nothing to do with plot lines.
But since you brought it up, I think social or historical comparisons are very valid when they have a direct reference to something in the show, as others have pointed out with Higgins. If that's not your cup of tea you don't have to like them.
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
these are observations that keep me coming back to this board
boogieman said:
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
He is. But at the same time maybe it was at ted's when he was at his moms.
boogieman said:
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
Absolutely. And if it isn't charged, it's his responsibility no matter the reason. I can't tell you why this bothered me more than any of the "woke" stuff but it did. My frustration regarding that wasn't rational.
Bull Meachem said:boogieman said:
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
Absolutely. And if it isn't charged, it's his responsibility no matter the reason. I can't tell you why this bothered me more than any of the "woke" stuff but it did. My frustration regarding that wasn't rational.
It was a plot device and only that. perhaps if you look at it that way it might make you feel better.
Well hell i dropped my daughter off at college Friday and her roommates mom was putting up her clothes and her roommate doesn't know how to do laundry.
So you never know what certain parents do for their kids.
I feel for you. I drop my daughter off next week for her freshman year, so maybe that's why I was bothered by it. We raised her to be independent for a long time now and I'm flabbergasted by what some of her friends have no idea how to do.
Rudyjax said:
Serious question: why does pointing out social injustices in our country make something "woke"? And why is acknowledging or learning about that history a bad thing? The show is drawing a comparison between the racial segregation of baseball and women being excluded from the beautiful game.
You can think the comparison is heavy-handed or that the storyline isn't well written, but I don't understand why simply discussing an uncomfortable part of American history is something to be concerned about.
Because I think people are tired of hearing about it and having it shoved in our faces.
In late 90's, CNN published a survey about racism and black Americans and while many responded that they'd experienced some racism in their lives, the vast majority didn't let it impact their daily lives. Now suddenly it's everywhere and blacks can't get ahead because of it. The amount of 'racism' stories in the news media went up 1000% after Obama was elected. That's not a coincidence.
Do you know why the USWNT has 4 WC titles, double the next team (Germany with 2)? Because women were actually allowed to play soccer in the US when other countries didn't allow it, or just simply didn't support women playing sports. This was well in to the 90's. Yet the USA is so much worse than any other country when it comes to how we treat women. Baloney.
If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
*Obviously we can't all be a sports star, but nothing is stopping you form succeeding in life.
If you think that is shoved in your face then nothing i can say can change your mind.
You can acknowledge how great things are and still remember the past. And work to make the future better.
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If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
You can acknowledge how great things are and still remember the past. And work to make the future better.
Rudyjax said:
If you think that is shoved in your face then nothing i can say can change your mind.Quote:
If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
You can acknowledge how great things are and still remember the past. And work to make the future better.
I don't know about anyone else but I really hope this conversation continues on. It's great. More of this type of stuff on the entertainment board please.
Season 4 has Season 2 vibes.
I've watched episodes from Seasons 1 and 3 multiple times. None from Season 2.
I've watched episodes from Seasons 1 and 3 multiple times. None from Season 2.
Squadron7 said:
Season 4 has Season 2 vibes.
I've watched episodes from Seasons 1 and 3 multiple times. None from Season 2.
You're missing out.
I'm on a season 2 rewatch and I've been surprised at how entertaining it is. Dani's mental breakdown that brings in Dr Sharon, Jamie coming back to the club, Roy's fantastic tv appearances followed by his epic return to the sideline, Nate's villain backstory, Ted's acceptance of his dad's death, Sam and the billioaire, Roy and his niece.
I thought I was romanticizing season 2 a bit, but it's been a really solid watch.
agracer said:
If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
None of those surprised me.
Those stories were occurring from everywhere from downtown Boston to the middle of nowhere Kansas. Despite what politicians try to tell you, people in general are pretty great, generally helpful, and get along with most other folks. Even here a lot of posters try to make everything "us vs them" when that's simply not how most people operate.
The people on the extreme ends of the spectrum are loud and obnoxious, most people are just trying to do their best for them and their families much more in the middle.
fig96 said:Squadron7 said:
Season 4 has Season 2 vibes.
I've watched episodes from Seasons 1 and 3 multiple times. None from Season 2.
You're missing out.
I'm on a season 2 rewatch and I've been surprised at how entertaining it is. Dani's mental breakdown that brings in Dr Sharon, Jamie coming back to the club, Roy's fantastic tv appearances followed by his epic return to the sideline, Nate's villain backstory, Ted's acceptance of his dad's death, Sam and the billioaire, Roy and his niece.
I thought I was romanticizing season 2 a bit, but it's been a really solid watch.
Agreed. The billionaire's crash out from Sam's rejection may be one of my favorite scenes in the entire series.
I've also come to really like the episode Blue Moon, and following Coach Beard around the city that night.
Rudyjax said:Bull Meachem said:boogieman said:
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
Absolutely. And if it isn't charged, it's his responsibility no matter the reason. I can't tell you why this bothered me more than any of the "woke" stuff but it did. My frustration regarding that wasn't rational.
It was a plot device and only that. perhaps if you look at it that way it might make you feel better.
Well hell i dropped my daughter off at college Friday and her roommates mom was putting up her clothes and her roommate doesn't know how to do laundry.
So you never know what certain parents do for their kids.
I had a childhood family friend whose mom would put on/tie his shoes for him way past the age that it was appropriate. There was nothing wrong with him, he was just a lazy POS that was content with making everyone late. Even as a kid I found his behavior abhorrent.
And yeah I hated the iPad charging plot device too but at least they showed that Henry cleaned his room.
boogieman said:
Isn't Henry Lasso a little old to still need his parents to charge his iPad?
He seems to have the memory of a goldfish.
Ted watches pr0n on Henry's laptop. Draining not only himself but the battery. And thus must follow the old adage that he who drains the supply must reapply
Bull Meachem said:Rudyjax said:
If you think that is shoved in your face then nothing i can say can change your mind.Quote:
If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
You can acknowledge how great things are and still remember the past. And work to make the future better.
I don't know about anyone else but I really hope this conversation continues on. It's great. More of this type of stuff on the entertainment board please.
Well new episode tonight so it's water under the bridge until another snowflake is offended.
Only two episodes in but I'm SO pleasantly surprised. Was worried it was going to be so bad but I've really enjoyed the first couple of episodes. It's been fun hanging out with these characters I enjoyed so much and there's some promise for new characters. I like Coach Chilton and looking forward to meeting some of the team.
I was not a fan of episode 1, I thought it felt forced and not very funny and had all the makings of cash grab reboot.
Episode 2 was way better. They should have aired the first 2 episodes together.
I was a little confused that after the first episode and Ted's being unsure about going how the 2nd episode starts up and he's just there. I thought I missed something. - Apparently I did!
But episode 2 felt like classic Ted Lasso. It was great to see Beard and Roy again, they were great. The new coach seems like a good new addition.
Roy messing with the opposing team's locker room was hilarious.
There were some eyeroll moments, but overall I thought this episode showed a lot of Tedd Lasso promise.
Episode 2 was way better. They should have aired the first 2 episodes together.
I was a little confused that after the first episode and Ted's being unsure about going how the 2nd episode starts up and he's just there. I thought I missed something. - Apparently I did!
But episode 2 felt like classic Ted Lasso. It was great to see Beard and Roy again, they were great. The new coach seems like a good new addition.
Roy messing with the opposing team's locker room was hilarious.
There were some eyeroll moments, but overall I thought this episode showed a lot of Tedd Lasso promise.
Rudyjax said:
If you think that is shoved in your face then nothing i can say can change your mind.Quote:
If anything, the social media posts by Europeans about their travel experiences in the US during the most recent World Cup should remind us all that we all won the birth lottery being born here. You can become almost anything you want in life in the US. The opportunities are boundless for everyone*. It's up to you to decide how you take advantage of those opportunities.
You can acknowledge how great things are and still remember the past. And work to make the future better.
If you don't think it's being shoved in our face then nothing I can say will change your mind.
Agree 100%. But telling all white people they are racist and must make reparation$ for the past is not making the future better.
And FTR, I do not go looking for it and even if I see it, I generally just roll my eyes and continue being entertained by whatever I'm watching (Ellen Paige and the Odyssey was grossly overblown IMO - hell, it wasn't even 'woke' at all, just a poor choice for the character - I thought the movie was great for the most part). I can't think of but maybe 2 or 3 times when it was so over the top I turned whatever show off and stopped watching future episodes.
FightinTexasAg15 said:
I was a little confused that after the first episode and Ted's being unsure about going how the 2nd episode starts up and he's just there. I thought I missed something.
Episode 1 ended with him calling the ex wife and her agreeing to go to England with him
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