***Ted Lasso*** (Season 4)

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brew82
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Scrolling Apple+, I saw a new season of Ted Lasso was beginning on August 5.

I thought season 3 was a good finish to the show. Do you think this is a money grab? Can they continue the story successfully?

I guess it is a good time to do this with the World Cup just wrapping up.
AggieOO
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ib4 everyone complaining that they just remade the show with women.
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I'm sure money is part of the equation, but i trust the writers to make something enjoyable and entertaining to watch.
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Season 4 Trailer
Bull Meachem
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I have high hopes and low expectations.
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Ted lasso holds a special place in my heart. It doesn't always hit but when it does it really hits for me.

More than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this and hope it works.

Wife and I are currently in a rewatch and loving all the episodes we forgot about. They built some great characters (Roy Kent , Jamie tart, kee leh) so I think that will be the hardest part to recreate

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T dizl televizl said:

Ted lasso holds a special place in my heart. It doesn't always hit but when it does it really hits for me.

More than willing to give them the benefit of the doubt on this and hope it works.

Wife and I are currently in a rewatch and loving all the episodes we forgot about. They built some great characters (Roy Kent , Jamie tart, kee leh) so I think that will be the hardest part to recreate




It's delightfully cheesy and they pull it off so well.
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Another season featuring a girl's sport.


Still watching.
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Anyone watch yet? I thought it was a very solid first episode. Only complaint is episode 2 wasn't also tonight. Seemed like a 1a type episode which would have been nice to have 1b. Probably not exactly spoilers because we know he goes back to Richmond but I wish they had a second episode tonight with his return.

Rebecca with the BBQ and BBQ sauce was great. And loved at the end where it was clear Ted was keeping up with everyone back in Richmond.
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The first episode was terrible. It felt like there was a lot of forced goofiness and each character doing their predictable little schticks.

What was the point of the black baseball players tangent with Higgins and Coach Lasso talking about his white privilege? If they're already getting preachy with the wokeness this early in the season, I can't imagine what it will be like when the women's soccer players start getting introduced.
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I feel like in another time and on different channel that scene could have been hilarious. It had the set up with a culture and sport he is not familiar with. But it just felt preachy. I am a huge fan of Ted season one but got very meh on the long format season 3.
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Thoroughly enjoyed ep 1, was a nice reintroduction to the characters.

Keeley being completely enamoured with Kansas was really entertaining, and the cold open was very "Ted" and set up his current situation well. The parallels between Ted and his dad and him and his son really drove home the choice he was making, in his head he was doing it for his family but wasn't really considering the bigger impact. I am curious about them all moving back when he and his wife are no longer together, however. Also felt like we could've gotten more out of the interaction with him and his son's coach.

Excited to see them get back to Richmond next ep.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

The first episode was terrible. It felt like there was a lot of forced goofiness and each character doing their predictable little schticks.

What was the point of the black baseball players tangent with Higgins and Coach Lasso talking about his white privilege? If they're already getting preachy with the wokeness this early in the season, I can't imagine what it will be like when the women's soccer players start getting introduced.


Already getting preachy? The entirety of Ted Lasso is preachy… it's the cornerstone of the show. And when done correctly, as Ted Lasso more often than not is, it makes for a great show.

Complaining about Ted Lasso being preachy is like whining about Breaking Bad being about meth. Jesus.
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For some reason, this show always makes me laugh. I just like it. Episode 1 was a good way to catch everyone up with the new story line.
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Houston Lee said:

For some reason, this show always makes me laugh. I just like it. Episode 1 was a good way to catch everyone up with the new story line.

It was more like an episode zero. Lay out the setting, remind everyone how the pieces move and work together. Get the good vibes back and then back into the next campaign .
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PanzerAggie06 said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

The first episode was terrible. It felt like there was a lot of forced goofiness and each character doing their predictable little schticks.

What was the point of the black baseball players tangent with Higgins and Coach Lasso talking about his white privilege? If they're already getting preachy with the wokeness this early in the season, I can't imagine what it will be like when the women's soccer players start getting introduced.


Already getting preachy? The entirety of Ted Lasso is preachy… it's the cornerstone of the show. And when done correctly, as Ted Lasso more often than not is, it makes for a great show.

Complaining about Ted Lasso being preachy is like whining about Breaking Bad being about meth. Jesus.


This is just flat out wrong. Season 1 started out pretty much apolitical. Once the writers figured out they had a hit, they started putting in more woke storylines into the show in Season 2. By Season 3 this show was tough to watch. They've picked up right where they left off with Season 4 it seems. This season is going to be a train wreck if episode 1 and the past ramping up of wokeness is any indication.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

The first episode was terrible. It felt like there was a lot of forced goofiness and each character doing their predictable little schticks.

What was the point of the black baseball players tangent with Higgins and Coach Lasso talking about his white privilege? If they're already getting preachy with the wokeness this early in the season, I can't imagine what it will be like when the women's soccer players start getting introduced.


Already getting preachy? The entirety of Ted Lasso is preachy… it's the cornerstone of the show. And when done correctly, as Ted Lasso more often than not is, it makes for a great show.

Complaining about Ted Lasso being preachy is like whining about Breaking Bad being about meth. Jesus.


This is just flat out wrong. Season 1 started out pretty much apolitical. Once the writers figured out they had a hit, they started putting in more woke storylines into the show in Season 2. By Season 3 this show was tough to watch. They've picked up right where they left off with Season 4 it seems. This season is going to be a train wreck if episode 1 and the past ramping up of wokeness is any indication.


You clearly weren't paying attention. The show preached kindness, forgiveness, acceptance, et al. You know, the good stuff of life. Don't make the childish assumption in believing that to be preachy is to be political. If you think that then as you wrote… this is flat out wrong.
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PanzerAggie06 said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

PanzerAggie06 said:

Thunderstruck xx said:

The first episode was terrible. It felt like there was a lot of forced goofiness and each character doing their predictable little schticks.

What was the point of the black baseball players tangent with Higgins and Coach Lasso talking about his white privilege? If they're already getting preachy with the wokeness this early in the season, I can't imagine what it will be like when the women's soccer players start getting introduced.


Already getting preachy? The entirety of Ted Lasso is preachy… it's the cornerstone of the show. And when done correctly, as Ted Lasso more often than not is, it makes for a great show.

Complaining about Ted Lasso being preachy is like whining about Breaking Bad being about meth. Jesus.


This is just flat out wrong. Season 1 started out pretty much apolitical. Once the writers figured out they had a hit, they started putting in more woke storylines into the show in Season 2. By Season 3 this show was tough to watch. They've picked up right where they left off with Season 4 it seems. This season is going to be a train wreck if episode 1 and the past ramping up of wokeness is any indication.


You clearly weren't paying attention. The show preached kindness, forgiveness, acceptance, et al. You know, the good stuff of life. Don't make the childish assumption in believing that to be preachy is to be political. If you think that then as you wrote… this is flat out wrong.



If you read my original post I said "getting preachy with the wokeness." You can preach about many things. You can't read, and you were putting words in my mouth.

If a show is preaching about good wholesome things that's fine with me. I don't appreciate being preached to about woke/progressive ideology.
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Totally enjoyed the season premiere. Loved seeing everybody again. Well not everybody. But close enough.

I used to travel to Kansas City MO for work (where my company was headquartered) and loved seeing some familiar places again.

I refuse to try to see politics or wokeness in my entertainment choices. This is just a feel good show that makes me feel good.
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The episode was mostly ok and funny at times. It was sad at times too. I think it's fine to call out the silliness of the forced plot elements.

The black baseball stuff was just odd. Show Higgins America through the lense of stuff that actually mattered like western heritage, have him day trip to dodge city or something. Pony express museum is not far away either. The pony express had a way more of an impact on America than Satchel Paige lol.

The English do love a good guilt and privilege sob story - that's why their island is getting overrun with third worlders and they historically have lost or been invaded for centuries. But I digress.
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I'm knew I was getting old when I start asking "Why can't Henry charge his own iPad? And if he doesn't, who cares?"

Nice first episode. I rolled my eyes at the forced political/social commentary but didn't really care either.
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Coming at it from a different angle: in addition to my episode zero reference above, this was a Jason Sudeikis "vanity"/fan service episode. My wife is from that area, and every two minutes she was pointing like Leo DiCaprio at another KCMO landmark or mannerism or whatever. Ted's mom is like Midwestern moms. Keeley and Rebecca walked by a fountain in a city of fountains; while Dazzle Me Moi and Tammy aren't themselves "real," the names are the only fake thing about those shops and those people. That was really Gates BBQ, and they really do operate like that: my wife yelled "Hi, may I help you!" two seconds before they did on the show.

Daniel Manning Elementary School isn't real. But my wife the KU graduate knew that Sudeikis the Jayhawks fan was tipping his cap to one of the Rock Chalk legends.

All this to say that, while the Negro League Museum thread may have been a touch heavy handed in its presentation, I think it was mostly yet another KC reference.

Sudeikis, Bill Lawrence, and the rest of the Lasso crew have earned a little bit of leeway when it comes to the messages they send, and for making an episode that didn't actually "do" much of anything for the overall story. But I certainly hope they get back to what made the show great to begin with, and soon.
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The Negro League museum was also used to introduce the ban on women's soccer in England until 1971. I didn't know about that. It's not exactly a total ban, but women were banned from using professional facilities/refs during that time.

I'm glad they are introducing the financial difficulties of women's sports. I thought they were going to pretend that they were just as popular as the men's team. Hopefully it's not presented as some sexist issue but a real challenge they have to try and solve.

My biggest concern with this season is who's missing and are they just replaced by stand ins of the character we don't care about. Jamie, Dani, Trent, and others.
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I thought it was a good episode. Unwrapping storylines after concluding a series has to be tough, and to do it in 40min.

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I rolled my eyes at the sellout crowd shots of the KC women's soccer team.

Then I looked it up and they have a string of sellouts. Good for them.

On a broader note, I wasn't a big fan of this season's first episode, but as others have stated:

1) They have earned some leeway
2) Rebooting a shelved series can't be easy and required filling the time gaps and storylines. I am glad they spent an episode setting things back up, rather than just starting with Lasso in England and interleaving flashbacks to how we got there.

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I took the overall purpose(s) behind that scene were:
1. To show Higgins "some" USA culture (i.e. baseball)
2. I think that Higgins is worried about the financial resources of a women's Richmond team pulling away from the available resources of the men's team. Therefore, Higgins is generally opposed.
3. The scene shows the long term result and value of supporting a sport that initially people did not support (Negro baseball) that when given resources, the long term result is beneficial to the sport. So to me it convinced Higgins to be on-board with the women's team.

Also, the "bar-b-que" sauce joke with Rebecca was layered because Ted says "bar-b-que sauce" when he beat Rupert at darts (for Rebecca) in S1.
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And Sam's final goal in season three.

Sorry for being that nerd.
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Bull Meachem said:

And Sam's final goal in season three.

Sorry for being that nerd.

Excellent catch, I had forgotten about that one.
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gmf_aggie said:

I took the overall purpose(s) behind that scene were:
1. To show Higgins "some" USA culture (i.e. baseball)
2. I think that Higgins is worried about the financial resources of a women's Richmond team pulling away from the available resources of the men's team. Therefore, Higgins is generally opposed.
3. The scene shows the long term result and value of supporting a sport that initially people did not support (Negro baseball) that when given resources, the long term result is beneficial to the sport. So to me it convinced Higgins to be on-board with the women's team.


I think that makes total sense, and is a lesson for Higgins moving forward, rather than just trivializing the scene as "woke".
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Aggie87 said:

gmf_aggie said:

I took the overall purpose(s) behind that scene were:
1. To show Higgins "some" USA culture (i.e. baseball)
2. I think that Higgins is worried about the financial resources of a women's Richmond team pulling away from the available resources of the men's team. Therefore, Higgins is generally opposed.
3. The scene shows the long term result and value of supporting a sport that initially people did not support (Negro baseball) that when given resources, the long term result is beneficial to the sport. So to me it convinced Higgins to be on-board with the women's team.


I think that makes total sense, and is a lesson for Higgins moving forward, rather than just trivializing the scene as "woke".

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Just watched the first episode. I thought it was fantastic. Can't wait to see Teds return to London next week.
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Bull Meachem said:

And Sam's final goal in season three.

Sorry for being that nerd.

Dude, I got teary eyed when Ted said bar-b-que sauce when Sam scored that goal. I haven't watched the new season yet. Waiting for the wife to get home, so we can watch it together.
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gmf_aggie said:

I took the overall purpose(s) behind that scene were:
1. To show Higgins "some" USA culture (i.e. baseball)
2. I think that Higgins is worried about the financial resources of a women's Richmond team pulling away from the available resources of the men's team. Therefore, Higgins is generally opposed.
3. The scene shows the long term result and value of supporting a sport that initially people did not support (Negro baseball) that when given resources, the long term result is beneficial to the sport. So to me it convinced Higgins to be on-board with the women's team.

Also, the "bar-b-que" sauce joke with Rebecca was layered because Ted says "bar-b-que sauce" when he beat Rupert at darts (for Rebecca) in S1.


Man, that is some serious mental gymnastics to try to play down some simple woke pandering.

Higgins should be worried about a women's soccer team. If people really wanted to watch it, it would be profitable and they could pay them the same as the men's team. I'm sure we'll get some storyline about unequal pay later in this season.
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Thunderstruck xx said:

gmf_aggie said:

I took the overall purpose(s) behind that scene were:
1. To show Higgins "some" USA culture (i.e. baseball)
2. I think that Higgins is worried about the financial resources of a women's Richmond team pulling away from the available resources of the men's team. Therefore, Higgins is generally opposed.
3. The scene shows the long term result and value of supporting a sport that initially people did not support (Negro baseball) that when given resources, the long term result is beneficial to the sport. So to me it convinced Higgins to be on-board with the women's team.

Also, the "bar-b-que" sauce joke with Rebecca was layered because Ted says "bar-b-que sauce" when he beat Rupert at darts (for Rebecca) in S1.


Man, that is some serious mental gymnastics to try to play down some simple woke pandering.

Higgins should be worried about a women's soccer team. If people really wanted to watch it, it would be profitable and they could pay them the same as the men's team. I'm sure we'll get some storyline about unequal pay later in this season.

I can definitely see the take that it is "woke pandering." I can also see how, for this season to continue, that the powers-that-be (Rebecca, keeeeee laaaaaa, and Higgins) have to see that a women's team is a good idea (even if not profitable or supported by the community like the men's team). I think the scene was to try and illustrate that maybe if Higgins gives this a chance, that something good could come out of it.

I personally do not care to watch women's sports and this is coming from a father with 2 daughters that play/played sports. That said, I do see that there is 'value' (likely not monetarily profitable) in having an avenue for women to compete in sports/things they are passionate about. I would like to think/hope that is what the show creators are trying to get to. I am fine with them making a show that highlights a women's sport as long as they are not preachy about it.
 
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