*** THE PENGUIN *** (The Batman Spin-Off Series)

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In reply to Quad Dog • 2:30p, 10/22/24
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Eh, that almost makes it worse, IMO. Like a cheap knock off.
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2:30p, 10/22/24
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In reply to TCTTS • 8:41p, 10/22/24
Sophia is my fav character in the show and she is doing an amazing job playing the character
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9:03p, 10/22/24
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Palm Springs is a very underrated movie with Cristin Milioti. Granted, I first started crushing on her as the Mother in How I Met Your Mother.
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10:52p, 10/22/24
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Viewership on HBO has increased every episode.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/10/22/the-penguin-viewership-is-doing-something-rather-stunning-for-hbo/
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In reply to Lathspell • 8:06a, 10/23/24
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Lathspell said:
Palm Springs is a very underrated movie with Cristin Milioti. Granted, I first started crushing on her as the Mother in How I Met Your Mother.
I completely blanked on HIMYM. She was so sweet and now such a different role. I never tied them as the same.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 8:08a, 10/23/24
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Viewership on HBO has increased every episode.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/10/22/the-penguin-viewership-is-doing-something-rather-stunning-for-hbo/
I don't know if it was discussed, but no plan for a second season. Heart breaking.
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In reply to AgShaun00 • 8:24a, 10/23/24
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AgShaun00 said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Viewership on HBO has increased every episode.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/10/22/the-penguin-viewership-is-doing-something-rather-stunning-for-hbo/
I don't know if it was discussed, but no plan for a second season. Heart breaking.

Man, I'm really hoping that Harvey Dent becomes a staple in Batman 2, and then they run a court drama with him between 2 and 3. He becomes Two Face in Batman 3, and we feel it more because we've had time with him as Dent.
When you get multiple gangsters like Maroni, Two Face, and Penguin, you get a feel for the darkness of Gotham (and maybe even the Court of Owls pulling some strings)
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In reply to AgShaun00 • 9:20a, 10/23/24
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AgShaun00 said:
Brian Earl Spilner said:
Viewership on HBO has increased every episode.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paultassi/2024/10/22/the-penguin-viewership-is-doing-something-rather-stunning-for-hbo/
I don't know if it was discussed, but no plan for a second season. Heart breaking.
I think it's kind of planned as simply a bridge between The Batman and the next one.

But with this level of success, they might want to rethink that, and expand the story if it's possible.
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9:48a, 10/23/24
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Yeah, kinda sucks it was only meant to be a limited series.

But on the other hand, it kind of means Penguin won't necessarily make it out of the season right? Cause if it's just setting up the second movie, we could be going forward with Sofia Gigante rather than Oz.

Would be unexpected for sure, but damn if they didn't get a whole bunch of people on board with Sofia with a single episode.

Granted, that's still highly unlikely. This is very much feeling like we're setting up Oz to fully "break bad" with his villain arc after his mother dies.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 9:57a, 10/23/24
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Yeah, kinda sucks it was only meant to be a limited series.

But on the other hand, it kind of means Penguin won't necessarily make it out of the season right? Cause if it's just setting up the second movie, we could be going forward with Sofia Gigante rather than Oz.

Would be unexpected for sure, but damn if they didn't get a whole bunch of people on board with Sofia with a single episode.

Granted, that's still highly unlikely. This is very much feeling like we're setting up Oz to fully "break bad" with his villain arc after his mother dies.


I have to assume with the character of The Penguin being one of the most well known in the Batman universe and with Collin Ferrel playing him that The Penguin character will be a central figure in next film.
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10:31a, 10/23/24
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Wonder if we get a Court of Owls appearance at all towards the end of the series to set up the next movie.

My prediction: the Court of Owls intervenes by abducting Oz. They control the media so the news announces Sophia killed Oz, which leads to Oz's followers to seek vengeance and start killing the Gigantes. An actual war between the gangs breaks out which leads us to the next movie.
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In reply to nickstro66 • 10:36a, 10/23/24
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No idea about the Court of Owls, but I think the most likely scenario is both Sofia and Oz make it to the movie.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 10:39a, 10/23/24
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That would be my bet as well.

Victor, not so much.
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11:08a, 10/23/24
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I think odds that any important character makes it to the movie, save for Oz, is incredibly low. I like the connective tissue, but you got to think Matt Reeves and co. has learned a thing or two from Marvel. These shows expand a character for the film, but if you introduce a bunch of important players in the shows, people start to see them as homework or they will be confused in the movies because they didn't watch the show.

I could be wrong about that, but I'd be really surprised if Sofia or Victor makes it past the last episode alive or in Gotham. I think this will be a stand alone story that shades Oz for those who really care and nothing of significance will really carry over into the film.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 12:24p, 10/23/24
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Hopefully someone will learn the lesson from all other comic book movies, and not constantly kill off their villains.
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2:58p, 10/23/24
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Oz/Colin Farrell has been confirmed for The Batman Part II for a while now. That's our "season two," which will pick up a week or so (in-universe) after the season ends. (Just FYI, I mentioned all of this on the first page of the thread.) The question at this point is whether Vic or Sofia make it out of the season alive. Right now I'd say no to the former, and a slim but growing chance to the latter.
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3:32p, 10/23/24
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I think Sofia will be around, but I think Vic is toast. Something will happen with the mom, he'll blame Vic or somehow betray Vic. Something is going to come out of Squid noticing them.
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3:58p, 10/23/24
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I thought the Squid thing would pop up by the end of the episode. Since it didn't, it tells me it likely plays into the long/end game for the season
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In reply to TCTTS • 4:30p, 10/23/24
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TCTTS said:
Oz/Colin Farrell has been confirmed for The Batman Part II for a while now. That's our "season two," which will pick up a week or so (in-universe) after the season ends. (Just FYI, I mentioned all of this on the first page of the thread.) The question at this point is whether Vic or Sofia make it out of the season alive. Right now I'd say no to the former, and a slim but growing chance to the latter.
Dude! That was *11* pages and over a month ago!!!

J/k thanks for the info.

I agree that Victor doesn't make it to the movie and is used to cement Oz as a REALLY bad guy. And I think they're so focused on Sofia that I can't believe that she doesn't make it into the movie...maybe as a Court of Owls component?
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In reply to DannyDuberstein • 4:40p, 10/23/24
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I thought the Squid thing would pop up by the end of the episode. Since it didn't, it tells me it likely plays into the long/end game for the season
Oz will use Squid or his crew to move product through Crown Point, thus launching his empire. He might even convert that apartment to something nice too.
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In reply to VP at Pierce and Pierce • 5:03p, 10/23/24
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Oh, that's a great call.

And Vic will now be Squid's boss.
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9:00p, 10/27/24
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Collin Farrell is so ****ing good in this show.
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11:35p, 10/27/24
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what a cliffhanger
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In reply to TCTTS • 11:37p, 10/27/24
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TCTTS said:
FL_Ag1998 said:


And the underground hideout is perfect. My son tells me he's seeing online chatter that it's the same underground trolley system that Bruce Wayne uses to hideout in. Not confirmed, just speculation, but still an interesting, and I think legit, guess.

Technically, the Batcave is in "Wayne Terminus," which was apparently a "private train station" of some sort that was shut down in the 1980s. So not public, and not a trolly system, at least according to The Batman Wiki. That said, I had the exact same thought, as they have to be setting up some kind of connection there. It's simply too coincidental that both Batman and Penguin's base of operations are now in closed down train/trolly systems underneath Gotham.

That, and they've teased this guy twice now, both in the mid-season trailer and the episode six trailer...






I'm not saying he's Wayne's "Drifter" character on the same motorcycle from The Batman, but both trailers open with him, as if they at least want us to think it's him, for whatever reason...


Im very happy this turned out to not be the case with the bike rider, if only because online rumors need to be wrong sometimes.
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4:38p, 10/28/24
Incredible episode. Really well done. Very Sopranos like. I did like how they lightened some of the shots, nice change of pace. Plot is top notch.
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6:36a, 10/29/24
I have no idea how Oz is going to get out of the situation he is in on the next episode. That cliffhanger after this episode was WILD.
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
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9:41a, 10/29/24
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Victor and Oz's mom can totally take Sophia 2 on 1
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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In reply to VP at Pierce and Pierce • 3:10p, 10/29/24
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Yeah, it felt like a great setup/breather of sorts before a presumably intense final two episodes.
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In reply to PatAg • 3:11p, 10/29/24
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For the record, technically there were no rumors (at least that I saw) that was Wayne/the Drifter. Reeves is on the record as saying no Wayne/Batman in this series. I was simply pointing out the similarities and speculating what such a seemingly intentional misdirect could mean. That said, I still think there's a slight chance Penguin & co stumble upon the Batcave in, say, the very last scene of episode eight, but that's about it.
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3:12p, 10/29/24
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In reply to TCTTS • 2:13p, 10/30/24
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TCTTS said:
For the record, technically there were no rumors (at least that I saw) that was Wayne/the Drifter. Reeves is on the record as saying no Wayne/Batman in this series. I was simply pointing out the similarities and speculating what such a seemingly intentional misdirect could mean. That said, I still think there's a slight chance Penguin & co stumble upon the Batcave in, say, the very last scene of episode eight, but that's about it.
I would like for there to be SOME connection to Batman in this show, even if its breadcrumbs leading into the next movie and nothing too substantial
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In reply to PatAg • 2:28p, 10/30/24
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At the very least, by the end of the finale there's apparently a pretty heavy hint at who *a* villain for Part II is. My guess is the Court of Owls, but who knows...
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:45p, 10/30/24
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Hyped!
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
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