Just show Batman perched up on a building watching Oz, then cut to black

ScottishFire said:

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Man, if they dropped Pattinson/Batman in episode 8 after Reeves dismissal comments, this show could potentially skyrocket to my favorite television show of all time.

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Batman comes in and breaks Vic's arms for pulling his gun on Batman.

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Agreed, him dying of a heart attack was incredibly anticlimactic. Very odd choice.

Seemed in theme with other parts of the episode, what do these main characters actually want and not getting what they want

After the bomb I feel like Batman has to be included in some way now. Too big of an event to just gloss over him being in the city.

I don't often like flashbacks in episodes to when the main character was a kid, but the actor who played young Oz was spot-on, and the reveal that Oz has basically been a psychopath his entire life - one who will do whatever it takes to get whatever he wants (in this case killing his brothers for alone time with mom) - was incredibly effective.

That, and as much as I want Sofia to live/have a role in The Batman Part II, it feels like her fate was sealed this episode. She finally admitted to herself that what she truly wants is to be free - and clearly now has the means to leave Gotham behind/start a new life - but not before her blood lust gets the best of her, wanting one last time to see Oz suffer. I could be wrong, but that felt like one of those decisions a character is given, which is often a way out of their current predicament, but then they ultimately make the decision not to break the cycle and instead they inevitably fall victim to its temptation/grind (think DiCaprio's "I'm not leaving" moment in The Wolf of Wall Street, in which Cristin Milioti ironically also starred).

Regardless, I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the finale next week.

I hope Dr Rush dies, so it removes any chance he will be in the movie

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the reveal that Oz has basically been a psychopath his entire life - one who will do whatever it takes to get whatever he wants (in this case killing his brothers for alone time with mom)

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Throughout the whole series, Oz has been a ruthless, murderous traitor... but still with some level of likability. That went out the window for me when it was revealed he killed his brothers.

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This is how I took it. Not some diabolical plan to drown them. He basically saw an angle to get mom to himself and didn't realize it would fill with water. But then he did make a decision not to say anything, partly to avoid being in trouble/blamed

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I don't often like flashbacks in episodes to when the main character was a kid, but the actor who played young Oz was spot-on, and the reveal that Oz has basically been a psychopath his entire life - one who will do whatever it takes to get whatever he wants (in this case killing his brothers for alone time with mom) - was incredibly effective.

That, and as much as I want Sofia to live/have a role in The Batman Part II, it feels like her fate was sealed this episode. She finally admitted to herself that what she truly wants is to be free - and clearly now has the means to leave Gotham behind/start a new life - but not before her blood lust gets the best of her, wanting one last time to see Oz suffer. I could be wrong, but that felt like one of those decisions a character is given, which is often a way out of their current predicament, but then they ultimately make the decision not to break the cycle and instead they inevitably fall victim to its temptation/grind (think DiCaprio's "I'm not leaving" moment in The Wolf of Wall Street, in which Cristin Milioti ironically also starred).

Regardless, I'm excited to see how it all plays out in the finale next week.

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My mind went more towards De Niro in Heat - he knew what he should've disappeared after the bank heist, but dude just had to go and kill Waingro.

****ing Waingro.

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Did I miss something with the flashback, I didnt get the impression he intentionally locked them in. He just freaked out on the ladder, and slammed it shut.
Now after that, he does make the decision to not speak up and tell his Mom what happened, and essentially decides to let them die.
It felt to me like he was wrestling with admitting what he did to his mom once it was getting later in the day, but they still could have been saved at that point if he did.

I thought they did a good job of showing how that could happen, and to me is a lot better and in keeping with how this world has been presented. A lot better than some evil kid who kills his brothers on purpose out of jealousy.

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Right after he shuts the door he yells, "Have fun gettin' out!" Then, as he walks away, he can hear both of his brothers yelling/pleading with him to open the door. I don't think their deaths were premeditated in that exact moment, but then yeah, pretty soon after, once the rain starts coming down hard, he's looking out the window of his family's apartment and makes a distinct decision to let his brothers die, when he pauses for second at his mom's questioning, then doubles down with the Beetlejuice lie (the last movie Tim Burton directed just before Batman). So, for all intents and purposes, he definitely decides to kill his brothers that day and, IMO, whether he made the decision that afternoon, in the moment, or that evening, is of little consequence.