Title is what's on the cover, and the poster, and the official WB site, and as it's titled for streaming on Prime. Nobody's checking the credits at the bottom of the poster, or the reverse of the DVD. You are wrong, and that's ok.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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Title is what's on the cover, and the poster, and the official WB site, and as it's titled for streaming on Prime. Nobody's checking the credits at the bottom of the poster, or the reverse of the DVD. You are wrong, and that's ok.

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Legally speaking, this is, objectively, a factually incorrect statement.

What you are stating is a preference/opinion.

There's a difference.

Also, since you keep ignoring him, I'll ask again... how do you explain THE MOVIE ITSELF using only "SUPERMAN" in its OWN credit sequence?

Same as with Furious 7, as I mentioned already. And I'm sure there's other examples.

Now let me ask you. How do you respond to everything I've mentioned? WB themselves including "The Movie" literally everywhere else a title would be shown, including streaming?

That is NOT simple marketing, which I'm sure you will not admit.

It's to differentiate, when searching large libraries, between the old "Superman" cartoon, the newer "Superman: The Animated Series," the other live-action movies, etc. Again… a marketing thing. The context matters. But legally speaking, the movie *is* simply titled "Superman." That is an indisputable fact.

You say it's an indisputable fact, but this is what I'm seeing...

https://superman-anthology.fandom.com/wiki/Superman:_The_Movie

Superman: The Movie [1] (title card stylized as Superman)

References
1. Official Warner site (legal title)

You're referencing a Fandom listing?

No, I'm citing the same source that they cited, the official WB site. Showing: legal title, Superman: The Movie.

Which seems to be in opposition of your "indisputable fact".

Academy Awards
https://www.oscars.org/oscars/ceremonies/1979

Raquel Welch/Dean Martin presenting


Reeve's first Carson appearance

Brian Earl Spilner said:

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No, I'm citing the same source that they cited, the official WB site. Showing: legal title, Superman: The Movie.

Which seems to be in opposition of your "indisputable fact".

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A site called Fandom saying it's the "legal title" doesn't make it so. That's just what some random Fandom editor typed.

Government-wise, there is no more official registry than the National Film Registry, which maintains/updates a list of movies deemed "culturally, historically or aesthetically significant," ones that are earmarked for preservation by the Library of Congress. And this registry, which is literally part of the national library of the United States, one that works in tandem with the studios, has the movie listed as…




Same goes for Wikipedia, which literally refers to "The Movie" moniker as "marketed as"…



Never mind, once more, that all OFFICIAL CREDITS (which are bound by contracts) on the "Superman" posters, DVDs, Blu-Rays, and UHDs have it listed as "Superman" sans "The Movie."

Again, when the movie is presented for rent/purchase online, via Apple, Amazon, Google, the official Warner Bros website, etc, yes, it's given the added "The Movie" moniker, so as to distinguish it from the many other Superman titles. But that's a MARKETING strategy.

Wheres, LEGALLY, in terms of credits, contracts, and the United States government, the title - OFFICIALLY - is simply "Superman."

Getting super detailed, but I love the yellow outline surrounding the "S," which is something we haven't seen before in live action, and makes it pop more / feel like more of a shield. It's just so sleek and clean...

Compared to...

The Porkchop Express said:

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Spilner is requesting you refer to these things as Superman: The Suit and Superman: The S in all posts going forward, please.

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POTD

Hell yeah…

Wendell Pierce, perhaps best known for his work on #Suits and #TheWire, has been cast as the iconic editor-in-chief of the Daily Planet in James Gunn’s #Superman: https://t.co/i2rxChfejQ pic.twitter.com/YZNhqCkb2C

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) March 1, 2024

James Gunn destroys an AI image of David Corenswet as Superman that was circulating yesterday pic.twitter.com/LBEd47Bkk6

— ScreenTime (@screentime) March 1, 2024

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StinkyPinky said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It is Superman: The Movie.

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This. It very much was known and talked about as "Superman the Movie".

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Gen Xer here, we did not say "the movie" when talking about it.

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Haha, I pause to reply because haven't returned to this thread in a bit and true to this forum this has spiraled out of control quibbling over irrelevant semantics. But it does make for good entertainment.

Not even going near what is 'legal' as far as titles. Not sure what the relevance there is, don't care. Also a GenX'er here (I973) and the movie was heavily marketed as SuperMan The Movie. Not saying that is what is the official title, who cares, just that was heavily referenced in publications. No, we didn't go around referencing it necessarily as "Super Man The Movie", like we didn't sat "Hey we're going to go watch Star Wars The Last Hope". At the end of the again pretty semantical. But that's entertainment…..

I completely agree it was marketed that way, just no one talked about it that way.

StinkyPinky said:

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Another Doug said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It is Superman: The Movie.

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This. It very much was known and talked about as "Superman the Movie".

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Gen Xer here, we did not say "the movie" when talking about it.

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Haha, I pause to reply because haven't returned to this thread in a bit and true to this forum this has spiraled out of control quibbling over irrelevant semantics. But it does make for good entertainment.

Not even going near what is 'legal' as far as titles. Not sure what the relevance there is, don't care. Also a GenX'er here (I973) and the movie was heavily marketed as SuperMan The Movie. Not saying that is what is the official title, who cares, just that was heavily referenced in publications. No, we didn't go around referencing it necessarily as "Super Man The Movie", like we didn't sat "Hey we're going to go watch Star Wars The Last Hope". At the end of the again pretty semantical. But that's entertainment…..

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It's Superman.

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StinkyPinky said:

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Another Doug said:

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StinkyPinky said:

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Brian Earl Spilner said:

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It is Superman: The Movie.

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This. It very much was known and talked about as "Superman the Movie".

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Gen Xer here, we did not say "the movie" when talking about it.

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Haha, I pause to reply because haven't returned to this thread in a bit and true to this forum this has spiraled out of control quibbling over irrelevant semantics. But it does make for good entertainment.

Not even going near what is 'legal' as far as titles. Not sure what the relevance there is, don't care. Also a GenX'er here (I973) and the movie was heavily marketed as SuperMan The Movie. Not saying that is what is the official title, who cares, just that was heavily referenced in publications. No, we didn't go around referencing it necessarily as "Super Man The Movie", like we didn't sat "Hey we're going to go watch Star Wars The Last Hope". At the end of the again pretty semantical. But that's entertainment…..

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It's Superman.

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But is it really? Prove it

STOP IT!!!

I love this new emblem mostly because it looks more alien and it's not a straight forward "S". In my head, I was thinking Cavills suit was not as "S" as it was, but looking at that picture it clearly was.

At the same time, I hate the emblem as it is presented in Kingdom Come. It's too harsh with the black. And Adding the yellow border softens it and humanizes it.

100%. Agreed.

MooreTrucker said:

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STOP IT!!!

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C'mon, enjoy the levity in an already ridiculous thread. It's a joke

Fan art. But I could live with this…

New ‘SUPERMAN’ art by @felipe_illaart pic.twitter.com/7kqFE2wjZs

— DCU Updates (@DCU_Updates) March 2, 2024

I always love when actors say they've read the source material, in this case the comics, because genuine character moments can be derived from that. The fact that Nicholas Hoult is reading All-Star Superman means a lot, and I cannot wait for his portrayal as Lex Luthor. https://t.co/HPqpyg30Ot

— Dan Marcus (@Danimalish) March 5, 2024

NICHOLAS HOULT talking about ‘SUPERMAN’ on the Inside Of You podcast 🧵

“The first ever Lex Luthor I saw was you” pic.twitter.com/g9OE6mN5Bc

— DCU Updates (@DCU_Updates) March 5, 2024

Forget the interview, I want that statue of Indy

Thought folks might enjoy this. I've watched Nostalgia Critic on YouTube for years and he's doing a Superman month for March starting with the original for his first video….bare in mind he's already reviewed #4 and the first remake from the early 2000s