*****The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power*****

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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 10:02p, 9/4/22
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Duncan Idaho said:
Watched the first 2 light night. Random thoughts

It was ok. You can tell the spent some money to make it but it still felt like a TV show not a movie.

The cave scene was well done.
The chick playing Galadriel is not hard on the eyes
I don't like the clearly female dwarves but then I am sure if they made them closer to the books a certain group of people would be complaining about how that would be grooming.
The sailing to the west part was good but man the implications were dark. It stuck me as closer to Leif's sacrifice in Vikings than the happily riding off into the sunset that I always imagined. Basically the elfs are a giant death cult and by getting on the boat to cross the sea, they are effectively committing suicide
I would have like to have seen more of the mines.

Yeah, I don't know if people here are being intentionally dense or if they're just too close to the source material, but I definitely had similar thoughts as you. I think the previous poster was far too hung up on the Valhalla comparison. I knew that Valinor was supposed to be akin to the afterlife (and one akin to christian mythology, at that). That said, I had never imagined it as a completely distinct plane of existence, such that elves would literally have to shed their physical forms to enter. It definitely gives the whole idea of "sailing west" at the end of ROTK a different feel. I don't think your characterization of it being a suicide cult of sorts are far off. If you willingly get on a boat that you know will lead to the end of your corporeal form, that's pretty much the definition of a death cult - even if you are 100% certain that it will lead to your resurrection in some better place.

Like you, I read the books long ago and have only really seen the movies in recent history. And anything in the extended anthologies is beyond my scope - as I suspect it is with the vast majority of the show's audience.
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10:21p, 9/4/22
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The thing that seems to be getting lost here is that suicide implies cutting your life short, obviously a heavily negative connotation. The Undying Lands are the exact opposite, a place where you live forever, without pain or sorrow or grief. It's the ultimate reward. That's why Gandalf, Bilbo, Frodo, and a few select others being chosen to go there is such a big deal.
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 10:26p, 9/4/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
cbr said:


Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.



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I dont get your post. Are you saying she is hot? There's ten women in any grocery store prettier than that, and she's supposed to play the most stunningly beautiful being ever?
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11:15p, 9/4/22
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Since I am really enjoying this so far but everyone else seems to be gripey I'll throw out my nitpicks.

The hobbit scenes are pretty boring.

I don't like the look of the dwarves. Too round in the middle and soft. Liked the Hobbit movie version or Gimli better.

That's all I got. Pretty fun so far.

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11:31p, 9/4/22
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If you were immortal, death could be viewed differently with less negative meaning. See The Good Place final season
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In reply to cbr • 11:43p, 9/4/22
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cbr said:
The Porkchop Express said:
cbr said:


Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.



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I dont get your post. Are you saying she is hot? There's ten women in any grocery store prettier than that, and she's supposed to play the most stunningly beautiful being ever?
This is what Google gives you when you type in frumpy woman. It's just me laughing at the classic TexAgs overreaction about the attractiveness of women.

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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 11:54p, 9/4/22
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The thing is, Galadriel is supposed to be terrifyingly beautiful. An 8 or 9 off the street is frumpy in comparison. This girl is a solid 7-8
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12:07a, 9/5/22
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I think we'll just have to agree to disagree on what sort of beauty they're trying to go for.
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In reply to ABATTBQ11 • 12:17a, 9/5/22
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The thing is, Galadriel is supposed to be terrifyingly beautiful. An 8 or 9 off the street is frumpy in comparison. This girl is a solid 7-8


Man, get over it. It's fantasy, and it's not like they scraped the bottom of the barrel by ANY means.

"She is SUPPOSED to be a 10. I don't think she's a 10. Show sucks." is basically what you sound like.
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In reply to cbr • 1:06a, 9/5/22
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Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 6:42a, 9/5/22
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The thing that seems to be getting lost here is that suicide implies cutting your life short, obviously a heavily negative connotation. The Undying Lands are the exact opposite, a place where you live forever, without pain or sorrow or grief. It's the ultimate reward. That's why Gandalf, Bilbo, Frodo, and a few select others being chosen to go there is such a big deal.
For the elves, yes - they live forever in the Undying Lands. Even if they die in Middle-Earth, they go for a time to the Halls of Mandos until their bodies are reconstituted, at which point they live forever in Valinor (with I think just one exception, our dude Glorfindel). It's not Valhalla or a suicide cult. I think of it like the ultimate retirement home where the elves await the Dagor Dagorath, the Last Battle against Morgoth once he returns through the Door of Night. After that, "if any change shall come and the Marring be amended, Manw and Varda may know; but they have not revealed it, and it is not declared in the dooms of Mando."

I do think the general consensus, though, is that Bilbo, Frodo, Samwise, and Gimli, are still bound to their mortality. They will ultimately die in the Undying Lands and pass to whatever Doom awaits Hobbits and Dwarves. For them, too, it's a retirement home, but they have a check-out date, so to speak. Gandalf, of course, is another story - as a Maiar, he's truly immortal and his return to Valinor is a homecoming. It's possible that he sheds his physical form once in Valinor.
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8:20a, 9/5/22
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I'm glad some of you stepped away from your hotornot browsing to let us know your thoughts.

I bet if you write a sternly worded letter, they will change the actress.
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Calling it now - the "giant" that arrived at Harfoot land in the meteor is Radagast - NOT Gandalf.
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In reply to Claude! • 9:02a, 9/5/22
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Claude! said:

Even if they die in Middle-Earth, they go for a time to the Halls of Mandos until their bodies are reconstituted, at which point they live forever in Valinor
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In reply to PatAg • 2:57p, 9/5/22
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cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
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In reply to cbr • 3:08p, 9/5/22
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cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
When did they stop?
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 6:02p, 9/5/22
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The Porkchop Express said:
cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
When did they stop?


They still do pretty well most of the time. Just not in this series. It's glaring.


And a few other recent ones I can think of.
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In reply to Duncan Idaho • 8:46p, 9/5/22
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Duncan Idaho said:
The Dirty Sock said:
FL_Ag1998 said:
swc93 said:
When Elrond and the Elf King where all alone after basically tricking Galadriel and the others into heading off to the West, the gay vibe was so strong I was bracing myself for a kiss or embrace. "Here it comes!". Glad they managed to hold off…for now.

After watching The Wheels of Time I was ready for anything to be shoe horned in.


Uhhh, I think that might just be you projecting because I didn't get that vibe at all.

Oh he's gonna make out with his boss. It's happening. As long as it's with the same race I'm ok with it.


"Same Race"? Are you saying you'd be ok with elf on elf gay but have a problem with
Elf on man gay?
Or
Elf on dark elf gay?


Dark elf? Do you mean a Drow?
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First episode in, I'm having a great time. Not an absolute home run by any means but I'll definitely keep watching.
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In reply to ChoppinDs40 • 9:04p, 9/5/22
ChoppinDs40 said:
Duncan Idaho said:
The Dirty Sock said:
FL_Ag1998 said:
swc93 said:
When Elrond and the Elf King where all alone after basically tricking Galadriel and the others into heading off to the West, the gay vibe was so strong I was bracing myself for a kiss or embrace. "Here it comes!". Glad they managed to hold off…for now.

After watching The Wheels of Time I was ready for anything to be shoe horned in.


Uhhh, I think that might just be you projecting because I didn't get that vibe at all.

Oh he's gonna make out with his boss. It's happening. As long as it's with the same race I'm ok with it.


"Same Race"? Are you saying you'd be ok with elf on elf gay but have a problem with
Elf on man gay?
Or
Elf on dark elf gay?


Dark elf? Do you mean a Drow?


Drowwer please
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In reply to The Porkchop Express • 9:13p, 9/5/22
The Porkchop Express said:
cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
When did they stop?

It was when they stopped great casting like John Wayne as a Genghis Khan or mickey Rooney as
Mr. Yunioshi
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In reply to cbr • 9:20p, 9/5/22
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cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
You started a series on a random episode, far into the shows life, and thats what put you off it?
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PatAg said:
cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
You started a series on a random episode, far into the shows life, and thats what put you off it?
You mean you don't start watching a series on the third episode of the sixth season? What a weirdo.
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The Porkchop Express said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
PatAg said:
cbr said:
Well, he was distractingly horribly cast in both.

Honestly i put off watching got for years bc the first scene i saw was that guy. But he's way worse as elrond. He should be in some pizza delivery guy sitcom.

Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

Fwiw i didnt think either galadriel was super well cast but lotr was better.
This is easily the dumbest 2 sentences I have read today.
Lol, ok, my opinion is dumber than yours, and i am really, really dumb for wanting attractive, charismatic, interesting looking actors to be cast most supremely heroic characters in fantasy literary history.

That particular got scene was a bad fight, poor acting, with dorks, in particular this dork, pretending to be heroes in bad costumes. Felt like watching the amateur dork fest fights at rennfest

Fwiw, hollywood used to do a pretty good job with casting.
You started a series on a random episode, far into the shows life, and thats what put you off it?
You mean you don't start watching a series on the third episode of the sixth season? What a weirdo.
Ok, explanation ; didnt really think got would be my thing. Didnt make any attempt to watch it.

Then one day it was on and i decided to watch a few minutes of it. That scene with this dork in it was what was on. The scene was so bad i didnt watch it again, until years later when everyone was saying how great it was. I binged it during the flu and it was good.

That scene and actor were probably the worst filmed 10 minutes of the whole show.

But honestly, why are so many people here such *******s these days? The Texags community did not start out as a place where insults and snide remarks were the rule, rather than the exception, especially on the fricking entertainment board.
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cbr said:


Ok, explanation ; didnt really think got would be my thing. Didnt make any attempt to watch it.

Then one day it was on and i decided to watch a few minutes of it. That scene with this dork in it was what was on. The scene was so bad i didnt watch it again, until years later when everyone was saying how great it was. I binged it during the flu and it was good.

That scene and actor were probably the worst filmed 10 minutes of the whole show.

But honestly, why are so many people here such *******s these days? The Texags community did not start out as a place where insults and snide remarks were the rule, rather than the exception, especially on the fricking entertainment board.
I think it is because you just randomly come in and **** on the show based on not liking the way one actor looks from one scene you watched of a completely different series many years ago.
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The debate was whether this show is well-cast and i dont think it is, unfortunately. I am not alone.

So do you disagree? Do you find this actress to look in the ballpark of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen that ever lived? Or this actor (any of these dudes) really fitting the heroic immortal elf lords? If so, please extrapolate.
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An L of an Ag said:
Calling it now - the "giant" that arrived at Harfoot land in the meteor is Radagast - NOT Gandalf.


I had the same thought.
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Can practically guarantee it's not Radagast.
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cbr said:

So do you disagree? Do you find this actress to look in the ballpark of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen that ever lived? Or this actor (any of these dudes) really fitting the heroic immortal elf lords? If so, please extrapolate.
I don't think she fits the part of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen. But then again, Galadriel in RoP is probably barely 1000 years old, if that. So you know. Maybe the casting is appropriate.
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That's definitely not what extrapolate means.

But I digress. I think Morfydd Clark is a great Galadriel. A lot of her beauty is in her character's ferocity and drive. She is relentless in her pursuit of what she knows is right. I'm sorry you're so fixiated on her looks. But again I think you're missing the interpretation of beauty. Galadriel is beautiful the way a real galadriel is, or the tree of theirs that gets wiped out. Beauty goes way beyond physical attraction.

I do not like the look of gil-galad but it's hardly keeping me from liking the show. Elrond and Celebrimbor can pass for kin, and this Elrond for a young Elrond. He has some Hugo Weaving in him. But most of all, I want actors and actresses that can perform the roles to the material, and so far thats what i have gotten. If it's so terrible for you, please do yourself a favor and stop watching.
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cbr said:
The debate was whether this show is well-cast and i dont think it is, unfortunately. I am not alone.

So do you disagree? Do you find this actress to look in the ballpark of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen that ever lived? Or this actor (any of these dudes) really fitting the heroic immortal elf lords? If so, please extrapolate.
You were being a turd, and got called on it. Its ok.
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In reply to cbr • 12:41a, 9/6/22
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So do you disagree? Do you find this actress to look in the ballpark of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen that ever lived? Or this actor (any of these dudes) really fitting the heroic immortal elf lords?

Oh God dude seriously can you just stop with this gotta cast the most spectacularly beautiful elf queen in the whole galaxy for a billion years thing that is getting stranger and stranger?

That or just text me the address of that supermarket that has 10 hotter women than Galadriel at any time of the day. For uh research purposes

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CondensedFoggyAggie said:
cbr said:

So do you disagree? Do you find this actress to look in the ballpark of a 4000 year old most beautiful elf queen that ever lived? Or this actor (any of these dudes) really fitting the heroic immortal elf lords?

Oh God dude seriously can you just stop with this gotta cast the most spectacularly beautiful elf queen in the whole galaxy for a billion years thing that is getting stranger and stranger?

That or just text me the address of that supermarket that has 10 hotter women than Galadriel at any time of the day.



I guess Kate Beckinsale is too much to ask?
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AmarilloBQ02 said:


Admittedly not a source material purist (read The Hobbit ~30ish years ago). This review is spot freaking on. I fell asleep, twice, trying to watch episode 2. This show is just not good.
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