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I agree about the elves. They did not feel like Tolkien elves, to me. You're right that they might as well have been just humans with pointy ears. I'm not a big fan of Galadriel or Elrond. Their okay, but my issue may just be that they conform to the same style of elf we are being presented. Just don't feel the way Jackson portrayed them, or how I always read them to be.

Don't know who this giant is supposed to be, but I hope to god he isn't supposed to be an Istari.The Harfoots are fine, I guess, but every time they went back to them, I was ready for that scene to be over.

I'm still just not a fan of the random casting of various races all over the place in a world like this. Does it ruin the story? Not too much. But it makes shows like this just seem like i'm watching a play, but not a movie or show attempting to ground itself in the reality the storytellers are trying to create. It's just even more out of place in an IP like Middle Earth. A world Tolkien painstakingly spent decades building a mythology around with history, languages, geography, etc. Sure, cast whoever you want, but it makes it feel artificial to me, just like overuse of CGI does.

If you want to cast blacks, asians, other brown peoples in this particular world, then build a storyline around those races and a geography. Have them hail from a particular region. I wouldn't create a mythology around Africa and cast a large number of white people.

Nazanin Boniadi... so hot...

Music was kind of generic to me. I found the opening theme especially drab and uninteresting. A far cry from a theme like Game of Thrones.

The very beginning with the brief telling of the rise of Morgoth was cool to see. I wish we had shown more of that.

Overall, it was entertaining enough to continue watching and save my overall judgment of the show for how the story ends.

Can you add some official rules to the thread, like you have to watch the episodes before you go on your rants

DallasTeleAg said:

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Moved from the other thead:

I agree about the elves. They did not feel like Tolkien elves, to me. You're right that they might as well have been just humans with pointy ears. I'm not a big fan of Galadriel or Elrond. Their okay, but my issue may just be that they conform to the same style of elf we are being presented. Just don't feel the way Jackson portrayed them, or how I always read them to be.

Don't know who this giant is supposed to be, but I hope to god he isn't supposed to be an Istari.The Harfoots are fine, I guess, but every time they went back to them, I was ready for that scene to be over.

I'm still just not a fan of the random casting of various races all over the place in a world like this. Does it ruin the story? Not too much. But it makes shows like this just seem like i'm watching a play, but not a movie or show attempting to ground itself in the reality the storytellers are trying to create. It's just even more out of place in an IP like Middle Earth. A world Tolkien painstakingly spent decades building a mythology around with history, languages, geography, etc. Sure, cast whoever you want, but it makes it feel artificial to me, just like overuse of CGI does.

If you want to cast blacks, asians, other brown peoples in this particular world, then build a storyline around those races and a geography. Have them hail from a particular region. I wouldn't create a mythology around Africa and cast a large number of white people.

Nazanin Boniadi... so hot...

Music was kind of generic to me. I found the opening theme especially drab and uninteresting. A far cry from a theme like Game of Thrones.

The very beginning with the brief telling of the rise of Morgoth was cool to see. I wish we had shown more of that.

Overall, it was entertaining enough to continue watching and save my overall judgment of the show for how the story ends.

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I go back and forth between not caring at all, and understanding why it would bother people because the world IS established.

I do think people would be even more annoyed by a random region/race being created just to put people of color in it though, so I think just introducing them to existing races makes more sense. Really, how they behave matters more, and I thought the guy playing Arindor (sp?) did a good job of being elf like.
If Micheal B Jordan were cast as an elf it would be awful, as an example of a bad way of inserting diveristy.

I agree. I actually had nothing against his character. In fact, he probably felt the most elf like among all the elves. He actually seemed like an Elf scout who has spent decades out at a remote outpost.

I actually liked the guy who has his book of symbols and was reading signs in the world as a prediction.

When Elrond and the Elf King where all alone after basically tricking Galadriel and the others into heading off to the West, the gay vibe was so strong I was bracing myself for a kiss or embrace. "Here it comes!". Glad they managed to hold off…for now.

After watching The Wheels of Time I was ready for anything to be shoe horned in.

Bezos spent 715 million for season 1? What hot garbage.
This comment below I can not take credit for. I wish that I could.


"It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men who above all else desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed, and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all."

swc93 said:

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When Elrond and the Elf King where all alone after basically tricking Galadriel and the others into heading off to the West, the gay vibe was so strong I was bracing myself for a kiss or embrace. "Here it comes!". Glad they managed to hold off…for now.

After watching The Wheels of Time I was ready for anything to be shoe horned in.

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Uhhh, I think that might just be you projecting because I didn't get that vibe at all.

swc93 said:

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When Elrond and the Elf King where all alone after basically tricking Galadriel and the others into heading off to the West, the gay vibe was so strong I was bracing myself for a kiss or embrace. "Here it comes!". Glad they managed to hold off…for now.

After watching The Wheels of Time I was ready for anything to be shoe horned in.

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Dude, the gay elf canon was established 21 years ago when Haldir got him an eyeful of Viggo. You gotta catch up.

ElKabong said:

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Bezos spent 715 million for season 1? What hot garbage.
This comment below I can not take credit for. I wish that I could.


"It began with the forging of the great films. Threads were given by Tolkien, immortal, wisest and fairest of all beings. Rights were granted to Jackson, great miner and craftsman of the mountain of lore. And nine, nine hours were gifted to the race of men who above all else desire quality. But they were all of them deceived, for another show was made. In the land of Amazon, in the fires of Mount Prime, the Dark Lord Bezos forged a master flop. And into this show he poured his money, his greed, and his will to dominate all film. One show to ruin them all."

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Did you actually watch it?

Anyone else get Jodie Foster vibes from Galadriel?

So far so good. Galadriel is way hotter and cuter than Peter Jackson Galadriel, Elrond is young and naive so his transformation should be interesting, meteor man I hope starts doing wizard stuff, Arondir is cool.

And Kazad dun was spectacular. Not sure how much they're going to tie up these stories in just 8 episodes though

Your take on the sailing west is bizarre. That's basically going to heaven and Galadriels choice to stay is the choice to suffer as she stays in the fallen world longer. You need to remember that while there are many things that call back to Norse and old English mythology, Tolkien was devoutly Christian and the west is more heaven than Valhalla.

They're not. They've said their plan is for 50 hours.

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Your take on the sailing west is bizarre. That's basically going to heaven and Galadriels choice to stay is the choice to suffer as she stays in the fallen world longer. You need to remember that while there are many things that call back to Norse and old English mythology, Tolkien was devoutly Christian and the west is more heaven than Valhalla.

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I disagree. Duncan knows what sailing to the West is supposed to mean. His point is the way the showrunners seemed to show it made it very ominous.

I actually agree with that feeling. There must have been a better way to make it not seem so damn scary.

You have a fundamental misunderstanding of Valinor if you at all think it is similar to commiting suicide.

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Surprised people like the fairly frumpy galadriel too.

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A clear TexAgs 4.