I'll let it go, I just wish people would acknowledge the hypocrisy.
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ElephantRider said:
He's definitely doing it for selfish reasons as opposed to a "cause", but that doesn't change the fact that he was trying to form an alliance based on race. Why is that so hard to accept?
Is he actively trying to form an alliance or just discussing this as a possibility? Beyond a brief discussion with Brittany and Michael, did anything else happen here? Did he try and legit get an alliance together?
ElephantRider said:
The Jasmine thing doesn't fly because Taylor put Terrance up and pushed for him to be the target.
What do you mean it "doesn't fly"? How doesn't it fly? She specifically and blatantly said "I'm not putting up jasmine because she's a black woman." I get she put up Terrance and targeted him. So not saying she has a cookout type alliance. But she physically told Kyle she would protect jasmine because of race. Consider that, then consider how many times the target changed and Kyle wasn't part of the conversations, it's not a stretch for him to still be suspicious, regardless of Terrance being on the block.
Multiple conversations over the course of two weeks. Enough for Michael and Brittney to discuss it and the implications.
She said she wouldn't nominate Jasmine, but she wouldn't hesitate to vote her out. I don't know that I would call that "protecting"
And like I said, Kyle was cut out of conversations because he is all-in on protecting Alyssa
And like I said, Kyle was cut out of conversations because he is all-in on protecting Alyssa
Again, I'll let it go and we can get on with the season.
Its a simple "covering all bases" strategy, perfectly legitimate considering the circumstances of last year. Its a completely defensive move to protect against a cookout 2.0. One can dislike what the cookout did and still recognize that its perfectly reasonable for a houseguest to think it could happen again and take up a position to protect against it. You can't unring a bell, the the bell the cookout rang was pretty damn loud. This would have been just another side alliance, rather than the main show.
ElephantRider said:
Multiple conversations over the course of two weeks. Enough for Michael and Brittney to discuss it and the implications.
I still have yet to see these conversations.
The inside feeds have been down again for an hour, and we probably will not get the outside feeds today since they are playing non-stop music due to wall yellers (according to the BB twitter psychos)
All four cams on Jasmine loudly talking at the table with Michael and Britt, are we being punished for the yellers? WhereTF are Monte and Taylor?
The leftovers screwed up by going hard after Kyle to put up Alyssa. At that that point in the game, it really didn't matter who went home on the other side. But the end result was making Kyle feel he would be on the outs with them
Kyle and Alyssa are children.
This will make it interesting at least
This will make it interesting at least
They're all children. Kyle and Alyssa are. Alyssa was for taking Taylor's prize. Taylor was for acting like she did about the prize and threatening Alyssa. Only one who seems to have his **** together is Michael and Brittany in his wings.
This is exactly where I stand. I realize it might not be best for his game but from a viewers point of view im thrilled he spilled the bean to Alyssa and Terrance. He had legit reason to be worried that if Joseph saved himself he was going home. By sharing about the LO he and Alyssa are now safe one of the other two will go home.Bubblez said:
The leftovers screwed up by going hard after Kyle to put up Alyssa. At that that point in the game, it really didn't matter who went home on the other side. But the end result was making Kyle feel he would be on the outs with them
Had the LO not pushed him to vote out his showmance it never would have happened. They have no respect for what he views as his game so F'em. Also while I can not stand Jasmine...im hoping she finds a way to save herself, this will force Michael to send home Monte or Taylor.
Coming out of this week with two members of the LO voted out is absolutely what is best for the show to keep it interesting and exactly what a twist like this is intended for.
On another note, how pathetic was Jasmin when she realized she was probably the target "after everything I've been through and how hard I've had to fight" woman please, you are nipples on a boar hog...worthless
But Jasmine has "worked so hard"
ElephantRider said:
But Jasmine has "worked so hard"
I mean keeping that limp and fake accent aren't easy….
She's worked harder than a Mississippi ***** on a Hattiesburg street corner.
But it's her birthdayLonestar_Ag09 said:
On another note, how pathetic was Jasmin when she realized she was probably the target "after everything I've been through and how hard I've had to fight" woman please, you are nipples on a boar hog...worthless
Wait, so Kyle's big white alliance that is specifically targeting people of color was also trying to bring in Terrance?
Going from living in the BY for a week to being the jury house with Jasmine and Indy. Not fun for Joseph
Only one person on here has made that into a storyline. He mentioned it before the show did and I dont believe they would hide that if it was really being pushed.
The show last week did have about 2 min where he mentioned he thought it might be a possibility. I took it as more of an acknowledgment of the possibility. Brittany was quick to say she would not let it get to the point where it was white vs black...not exactly sure what her plan would be if there was in fact a cookout 2.0 your only option is to get with the others in the house or accept it and allow yourself to knowingly be taken out because your skin tone was the wrong color...many I believe would allow this before vocalizing anything like Kyle did.
As far as trying to compare the two it is laughable to me. Last year people went against their game to keep the cookout and likely cost their own chances just for the color of someone's skin, it was sickening.
The show last week did have about 2 min where he mentioned he thought it might be a possibility. I took it as more of an acknowledgment of the possibility. Brittany was quick to say she would not let it get to the point where it was white vs black...not exactly sure what her plan would be if there was in fact a cookout 2.0 your only option is to get with the others in the house or accept it and allow yourself to knowingly be taken out because your skin tone was the wrong color...many I believe would allow this before vocalizing anything like Kyle did.
As far as trying to compare the two it is laughable to me. Last year people went against their game to keep the cookout and likely cost their own chances just for the color of someone's skin, it was sickening.
I didn't even bring it up, someone else did and I was just trying to fill the casuals in on what was happening on the feeds. You only see what CBS wants you to see.
As far as Terrance goes, that was a very recent development and Kyle admitted he was in survival mode
As far as Terrance goes, that was a very recent development and Kyle admitted he was in survival mode
You were the first to bring it up last week that Kyle was the only one making the show about race…before the show aired anything about it and after Taylor vowed she wouldn't vote off a Jasmine
If you have the live feeds go to 8/5/22 3:30amBBT (5:30 CDT), Kyle talks to Michael about the possibility that there is a Cookout 2.0. Only a brief part of that was shown as a flashback on the 8/18 episode, but we have seen and heard about on the live feeds and BB twitter since 8/5.
He never out right said he wanted to target black HGs, it was just that his proposed alliance to counteract the Cookout 2.0 (which doesn't exist) was mostly just the white HG left in the house. BB twitter ran with it from there
He never out right said he wanted to target black HGs, it was just that his proposed alliance to counteract the Cookout 2.0 (which doesn't exist) was mostly just the white HG left in the house. BB twitter ran with it from there
When this all started this weekend other people brought it up separately from that with the typical "people are just mad because he liked a Trump tweet". I said what has happened.Lonestar_Ag09 said:
You were the first to bring it up last week that Kyle was the only one making the show about race…before the show aired anything about it and after Taylor vowed she wouldn't vote off a Jasmine
I've also never once called him a racist. I just said he is making the game about race and playing it that way. I didn't like that last year, and I don't like it now.
We are all just saying the same thing at this point. No one likes Kyle's idea. But they are also saying alliances like the cookout can create this paranoia. Absolutely no one here likes alliances based targeting by race, neither now nor last year.
Can we talk about the game at hand now?
Can we talk about the game at hand now?
tailgatetimer10 said:
Can we talk about the game at hand now?
Maybe if CBS would give us the ****ing outside feeds back
Wall yellers?
After all these years, I don't know why CBS can't do something about them. Increase the perimeter around the yard, or something.tailgatetimer10 said:
Wall yellers?
tailgatetimer10 said:
Wall yellers?
Yes, for sure one that yelled something like "Kyle is a liar, protect Joseph". And there's a person on Twitter that claims to have inside information (has been right about some things so it's plausible) that says it has happened multiple times after that. I don't know why CBS doesn't do more to prevent it from happening
They are playing music outside to cover the wall yellers so we cannot get the outside feeds. About the only good thing on the inside was a late night conversation between Monte and Michael on social issues.
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I've also never once called him a racist. I just said he is making the game about race and playing it that way. I didn't like that last year, and I don't like it now.
Not defending Kyle, but the situations are different.
Last Year
Nobody:
Literally Nobody:
Black HG's: "Let's create an alliance purely based on our race and vote out all the other people because they aren't our race.
This Year
Kyle: Hey guys, last year the entire season was taken over by an alliance that was formed based on race. I'm going paranoid in the house because that's what happens when you're thinking of who's working with an against you, and I've noticed people of color have been meeting here and there and they seem pretty close. I wonder if they're repeating the winning strategy from last year and if we should do something about that?
Michael/Brittany: Uhh...no I'm not seeing the same thing you are. Chill out.
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3:13 PM Animals for one hour. -Scott3325
2:13 PM Animals! -Scott3325
2:07 PM Jasmine talks about having to think about a speech ahead of time or she will blank out. -Scott3325
2:06 PM Feeds return to HGs in BA on four cams. -Scott3325
1:48 PM Three hours and Animals remain.
Rinse and repeat, at least football season is about to start and BB watching can go on the back burner
We've tried to watch the feeds, and 2/3rds of the time it's animals. I feel bad for people that have only signed up to watch the feeds. I imagine they have to be boring as hell with only being able to watch five people at a time. I think it's an interesting twist on the game, but not so sure it makes for great television.
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