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I heard on a podcast first year cast members make 700 a week.
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Hank the Grifter said:


Murphy's impression of Morgan was fantastic too but I've seen him do it before on other shows so knew what to expect there.
Yeah, I figured most people had seen him do it before, but I guess not.
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Haven't read the entire thread....has anybody addressed Kevin Costner in the audience? What was his deal? He looked like he definitely did not want to be there.
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Equinox said:

Haven't read the entire thread....has anybody addressed Kevin Costner in the audience? What was his deal? He looked like he definitely did not want to be there.

I think that was part of the schtick being stuck between Forte and Sudeikis singing.
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Here's the thing about SNL. Even if it "isn't as good as it used to be" or "is leftist and woke", we need it. We need it to poke fun at our leaders and cut them down to size. Tom Hanks has our friends on the other forum stirred up, so that's a sign it can still do its job.
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torrid said:

Here's the thing about SNL. Even if it "isn't as good as it used to be" or "is leftist and woke", we need it. We need it to poke fun at our leaders and cut them down to size. Tom Hanks has our friends on the other forum stirred up, so that's a sign it can still do its job.


The problem with this one was it wasn't funny. The previous appearances with Tom hanks on black jeopardy were funny. This one wasn't.
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Quad Dog said:

Equinox said:

Haven't read the entire thread....has anybody addressed Kevin Costner in the audience? What was his deal? He looked like he definitely did not want to be there.

I think that was part of the schtick being stuck between Forte and Sudeikis singing.
Earlier in the show he was in a shot in the background, but he was acting the same way.

During the bit you're talking about, we kept expecting that he was going to jump up and be a part of the skit.
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Hey...so.. um said:

torrid said:

Here's the thing about SNL. Even if it "isn't as good as it used to be" or "is leftist and woke", we need it. We need it to poke fun at our leaders and cut them down to size. Tom Hanks has our friends on the other forum stirred up, so that's a sign it can still do its job.


The problem with this one was it wasn't funny. The previous appearances with Tom hanks on black jeopardy were funny. This one wasn't.


Yep. They literally recycled the bit with Tom Hanks being scared of shaking Keenan's hand. The first appearance of TH on Black Jeopardy was hilarious while this fell totally flat.
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torrid said:

Here's the thing about SNL. Even if it "isn't as good as it used to be" or "is leftist and woke", we need it. We need it to poke fun at our leaders and cut them down to size. Tom Hanks has our friends on the other forum stirred up, so that's a sign it can still do its job.
But the problem is they don't do it consistently, thus losing their edge as a program that's willing to make fun of everyone and push the boundaries of comfort. It shouldn't have taken them 4 years of ignoring Biden's weaknesses like an elephant in the room to ask Carvey back on the show to do it right. They severely limited their material and became more of a caricature than a true comedy program that pulls no punches. It's unfortunate, but a sign of the times.

No doubt there are a lot of great moments in their 50 year history though.
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I just turned on the KPRC (Houston NBC) local news and they apologized for the unintentional mistake last night, and said they are working with NBC to air an encore presentation. Guess they heard from some folks.
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This.

They poke fun at one side for 99% of any political material. They don't try to hide it.
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This was news to me:

In S1 E1, nine Not Ready for Price Time Players are listed in the opening credits including George Coe and Michael O'Donoghue.

Coe appeared in the first episode and intermittently throughout the following decade.

O'Donoghue uttered the first words of the first episode and was a credited cast member for three episodes in the first season. He was also a long time writer for the show.

The other seven were of course: Curtain, Morris, Newman, Aykroyd, Belushi and Chase.

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https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
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Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
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agnatgas said:

This was news to me:

In S1 E1, nine Not Ready for Price Time Players are listed in the opening credits including George Coe and Michael O'Donoghue.

Coe appeared in the first episode and intermittently throughout the following decade.

O'Donoghue uttered the first words of the first episode and was a credited cast member for three episodes in the first season. He was also a long time writer for the show.

The other seven were of course: Curtain, Morris, Newman, Aykroyd, Belushi and Chase.


And Don Pardo said "Not For Ready Prime Time Player" during the opening credits.

From the first episode, it seemed to be "here are our star comedians and musicians, plus this entire list of unknown repertory performers". As if they didn't expect any of them to become famous.
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torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
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Obviously, Obama's appearance seemed to benefit him more than Hillary's, but her portrayal by Amy Poehler has gone down as a key text in the history of both American comedy and politics. Poehler's most impactful outing as the character though was in the aftermath of Clinton's primary loss to Obama. During the general election that saw Obama and Joe Biden face-off against Republicans John McCain and Sarah Palin, "SNL" aired one of its most iconic sketches, one that tops our list of the Greatest Sketches of the 21st Century/ Featuring Poehler as Clinton and her returning Weekend Update partner Tina Fey as Palin, the joint address to the nation serves as both a send-up of a political season that upended all expectations and a timeless acknowledgement of how powerful women are demonized, while mindless peons are rewarded.

Moreover, the sketch captures "SNL"'s awareness in regards to where Republican politics was headed and the kind of players and rhetoric the party would cling to going forward. In Hillary's frustration over being sidestepped by Obama and potentially a ditz like Palin, we also get a sense for the resentful determination that proved her achilles heel once again during the 2016 election eight years later.
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Hey...so.. um said:

torrid said:

Here's the thing about SNL. Even if it "isn't as good as it used to be" or "is leftist and woke", we need it. We need it to poke fun at our leaders and cut them down to size. Tom Hanks has our friends on the other forum stirred up, so that's a sign it can still do its job.


The problem with this one was it wasn't funny. The previous appearances with Tom hanks on black jeopardy were funny. This one wasn't.
While that's true, that ain't the reason why that's got the majority F16 triggered. The majority of them didn't even know of Tom Hank's first appearance on Black Jeopardy back in 2016.
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torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
I guess "almost skipped" is subjective depending on how much article space you felt was warranted, and I am sure many political sketches and impressions were skipped entirely. But one of the photos at the very top of the article is of Fey playing Palin and "Palin" is mentioned 3 times in the article. They also link to an article where they listed the Fey/Palin sketch as their top sketch since 2000.
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Ag97 said:

So streaming taking over as the predominate format has killed comedy? I can't even think of any streaming movies made by the recent cast that are on par with anything from the early 2,000's or before. The humor and talent just isn't there. If it were, wouldn't the cast members over the past 15 years be as successful in their new formats in the same way the cast members from earlier generations were successful in their formats?
The problem is that your measure of comedy success/popularity has drastically changed with the advent of streaming, the internet, Youtube, social media, etc. Just because you do not see newer SNL cast in more traditional mainstream movies now as you would have in the 80s/90s does not mean they are somehow not as funny or not as popular with the general public as before. More and more people especially younger folks have been consuming the majority of their comedy online from non-traditional media outlets to traditional media companies who have now decided to upload their content to Youtube and social media. SNL finally embraced uploading their skits to Youtube after holding off or issuing DCMA takedown request for years.
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Complete Idiot said:

torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
I guess "almost skipped" is subjective depending on how much article space you felt was warranted, and I am sure many political sketches and impressions were skipped entirely. But one of the photos at the very top of the article is of Fey playing Palin and "Palin" is mentioned 3 times in the article. They also link to an article where they listed the Fey/Palin sketch as their top sketch since 2000.
OK, I've now read the whole thing. I still feel Tina Fey as Palin is underrepresented in the article. I think it is the most famous example of real-life politics and SNL parodies intersecting, with Fey's impression largely influencing the public's perception of Palin. I think the perception was already there, but people were hesitant to laugh at her because she was a woman.
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TCTTS said:





Nah they just knew it was gonna suck
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TCTTS said:




Well, isn't that special...
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torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
I guess "almost skipped" is subjective depending on how much article space you felt was warranted, and I am sure many political sketches and impressions were skipped entirely. But one of the photos at the very top of the article is of Fey playing Palin and "Palin" is mentioned 3 times in the article. They also link to an article where they listed the Fey/Palin sketch as their top sketch since 2000.
OK, I've now read the whole thing. I still feel Tina Fey as Palin is underrepresented in the article. I think it is the most famous example of real-life politics and SNL parodies intersecting, with Fey's impression largely influencing the public's perception of Palin. I think the perception was already there, but people were hesitant to laugh at her because she was a woman.


I don't think SNL really influenced the perception of Palin. That interview with Katie Couric was a disaster, and everyone knew it. Not Biden debate bad, but still, really bad. Some of the stuff Fey says in the skit are word for word answers that Palin gave in the interview. If anything, I think SNL may have helped her by having Palin come on SNL with Fey. It showed she can take a joke. Something missing from today's political spectrum.
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Where were Rob Schneider and Jim Breuer?
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cav14 said:

Ag97 said:

So streaming taking over as the predominate format has killed comedy? I can't even think of any streaming movies made by the recent cast that are on par with anything from the early 2,000's or before. The humor and talent just isn't there. If it were, wouldn't the cast members over the past 15 years be as successful in their new formats in the same way the cast members from earlier generations were successful in their formats?
The problem is that your measure of comedy success/popularity has drastically changed with the advent of streaming, the internet, Youtube, social media, etc. Just because you do not see newer SNL cast in more traditional mainstream movies now as you would have in the 80s/90s does not mean they are somehow not as funny or not as popular with the general public as before. More and more people especially younger folks have been consuming the majority of their comedy online from non-traditional media outlets to traditional media companies who have now decided to upload their content to Youtube and social media. SNL finally embraced uploading their skits to Youtube after holding off or issuing DCMA takedown request for years.


I think the growth of stand up comedy also factors in. It used to be that a comic had to go tv, and then hopefully jump to the movies. Now, relatively mid tier comics get specials on Netflix and can make a decent amount of money. They don't need TV anymore.
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Schneider was there. In the audience.
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TCTTS said:

Schneider was there. In the audience.
And sitting next to Al Sharpton! Something I never thought I'd see.
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I don't really accept that the past 15 years haven't had huge actors breakout from SNL.

Let's look at the cast from 2010:

Fred Armisen
Kenan
Andy Samberg
Bill Hader
Jason Sudeikis
Kristen Wiig
Bobbie Moynihan
Seth Myers
Abby Elliot
Nasim Pedrad
Jenny Slate

Writers were
Mike O'Brien
Colin Jost
John Mulaney
Emily Spivey


Almost all have been huge names from movies, shows, etc. I would argue the only ones who haven't really been name draws since they left SNL are Moynihan, Pedrad, Elliot, and Spivey. Then of course you have Kenan and Jost still on the show. That's pretty damn good for an SNL cast.
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And Jost is the most successful of them all.
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Definitely Not A Cop said:

I don't really accept that the past 15 years haven't had huge actors breakout from SNL.

Let's look at the cast from 2010:

Fred Armisen
Kenan
Andy Samberg
Bill Hader
Jason Sudeikis
Kristen Wiig
Bobbie Moynihan
Seth Myers
Abby Elliot
Nasim Pedrad
Jenny Slate

Writers were
Mike O'Brien
Colin Jost
John Mulaney
Emily Spivey


Almost all have been huge names from movies, shows, etc. I would argue the only ones who haven't really been name draws since they left SNL are Moynihan, Pedrad, Elliot, and Spivey. Then of course you have Kenan and Jost still on the show. That's pretty damn good for an SNL cast.
What's up with that?
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torrid said:

Complete Idiot said:

https://www.indiewire.com/features/commentary/saturday-night-live-history-political-satire-1235095227/
I'll read the whole thing later this evening, but that looks to almost completely skip over Tina Fey and Sarah Palin.
The real omission is Chris Farley as Newt Gingrich. His impression made such an impact at the time that Gingrich actually invited him to come do the act in Washington for the Republican caucus. It was also featured as a game in the SNL Goes Political PC game/CD Rom product that I got as a gift one year in the 90s.

 
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