I'll check when I get home, but I've had Amazon show dates like that in the past, but still had it delivered on time.

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Seeing as the Ghostbloods (RoW Spoilers) are an organization from Scadrial, I'd say it's going to play a factor. Why would Sanderson spend hundreds of pages writing about them if it wasn't important.

Also, you have no idea what other people enjoy about fantasy worlds. I guarantee you there are a very large number of readers who are interested in the greater Cosmere (I am one of them). Especially because Odium's future plans are not simply a Rosharon problem but part of his larger plans of a crusade across the Cosmere.

The fate of the entire Cosmere is LITERALLY part of the plot to the Stormlight archive. To say the other books will play no part other than a couple of interesting tie-ins when there is still over 5,000 pages left to be be written in the Stormlight Archive is fairly short-sighted.

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I am also one of those people. I went back and downloaded the 80 something episodes of 17th shard discussing the Words of Brandon. I dove in deep on Realmatic theory

What I was trying to say is that as of this moment there many times where a character is introduced and if you don't know they are from another world it has very little impact on the story. As of this moment ghostbloods are the one the rare situations it is nice to know but up to this point (I think WaT might change that) hasn't impacted Stormlight if you don't know their origins.

I have a friend who literally refuses to read Mistborn but loves Stormlight. Up to this point he is fine (though once again I think long term he will be disappointed)

At the end of the day I think as long as you don't read oathbreaker first then way of kings, you are generally fine to read the cosmere in any order. And I certainly would not stop reading Stormlight to read Warbreaker

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My only reason for recommending to read everything you can from the Cosmere before Stormlight is because Stormlight is superior in every way to any of his other works imo. Especially his earlier stuff like Elantris and Warbreaker.

I am one of those who gave up any sense of trying to read them in any sort of order. I am a massive fan of his works, obviously, but even I need breaks from his books from time to time and between all the other readings I do, I forget a lot of the smaller details. The kind of details that make up the "crossovers". It no longer bothers me. I was enthralled by the concept of his interconnected Cosmere at first but that has seemed to lessen as time goes by. Still cool as hell, don't get me wrong, but the novelty has worn off a bit I think. When it is all done, I think my appreciation will peak though.

II also deviate from the crowd though. I loved Elantris and Warbreaker and though Stormlight is awesome, still gotta give the nod to Mistborn. Even there, I have to be different. I don't know if Era 2 is better than Era 1 per se, but it is more fun to me for sure.

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I am one of those who gave up any sense of trying to read them in any sort of order. I am a massive fan of his works, obviously, but even I need breaks from his books from time to time and between all the other readings I do, I forget a lot of the smaller details. The kind of details that make up the "crossovers". It no longer bothers me. I was enthralled by the concept of his interconnected Cosmere at first but that has seemed to lessen as time goes by. Still cool as hell, don't get me wrong, but the novelty has worn off a bit I think. When it is all done, I think my appreciation will peak though.

II also deviate from the crowd though. I loved Elantris and Warbreaker and though Stormlight is awesome, still gotta give the nod to Mistborn. Even there, I have to be different. I don't know if Era 2 is better than Era 1 per se, but it is more fun to me for sure.

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Mistborn was my first love. I recognize its flaws but I place it above Stormlight based on the two eras we have

The only flaw I see with Mistborn is the dynamics with the bad guy in the second book. I think it's otherwise pretty incredible.

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Mistborn was my first love. I recognize its flaws but I place it above Stormlight based on the two eras we have

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Same. It was my intro to Sanderson and it will always hold a place in my heart for that. Plus the smaller, more intimate scale is something I can appreciate a little more as I get older. I grew up reading sweeping epics and still love them for sure, but nice to tone it down from time to time too. Mistborn gives me that.

Also, allomancy kicks the ass of Stormlight

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Also, allomancy kicks the ass of Stormlight

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I think I concur

I prefer the Knights Radiant to the allomancers. I love the idea of the powers tied to oaths, and think Blades and Plate are awesome.

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I am one of those who gave up any sense of trying to read them in any sort of order. I am a massive fan of his works, obviously, but even I need breaks from his books from time to time and between all the other readings I do, I forget a lot of the smaller details. The kind of details that make up the "crossovers". It no longer bothers me. I was enthralled by the concept of his interconnected Cosmere at first but that has seemed to lessen as time goes by. Still cool as hell, don't get me wrong, but the novelty has worn off a bit I think. When it is all done, I think my appreciation will peak though.

II also deviate from the crowd though. I loved Elantris and Warbreaker and though Stormlight is awesome, still gotta give the nod to Mistborn. Even there, I have to be different. I don't know if Era 2 is better than Era 1 per se, but it is more fun to me for sure.

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I also love Elantris. And Mistborn Era 2 is definitely better than Era 1. Other than maybe Dalinar, Wax and Wayne are the best characters Brandon has written.

I love Elantris, but I think Warbreaker sucks.

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I love Elantris, but I think Warbreaker sucks.

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I love Elantris, but I think Warbreaker sucks.

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I am in that same bubble

I think Warbreaker is fantastic and that Elantris is a boring slog.

I loved Elantris. Warbreaker was decent.

I love both, thought I do recognize that Elantra's was early in Sando's career. I'm looking forward to the sequel.

Look, I get it. Some people don't like Elantris because it doesn't really align with their expectations.

Others don't like Warbreaker because everything is not black and white.

I think the thing that bothers me is it feels like Vivenna is supposed to be the main character but has very little to do with the plot. Siri and Susebron and Lightsong have much more interesting plots. It also feels like the plot is resolved mostly off screen.

I may be misremembering but it does not have the Samderlanche he is known for and it felt disjointed

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Are you saying I should do Mistborn Era 1 and Warbreaker before WoR? That's kind of what I've been considering. Switching to a something that's only ~600 pages seems like a nice detour before jumping into WoR

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I started The Final Empire. Finished Part 1 and it definitely has not hooked me yet... It feels like it's just been a huge info dump of the magic system so far. It feels like homework. Like i just read 100 pages of a textbook studying for an Allomancy test. Everything just feels over-explained, even the rebellion planning stuff.

I also think i'm still in a Stormlight headspace and this is a bigger vibe shift than i was expecting.

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Good news. I picked Mistborn 1 back up after i finished Edgedancer. It gets A LOT better after the first 10-12 chapters. I feel like in SA we're introduced to characters and the magic system slowly so it's easier to digest. In the Final Empire you just get 30 characters and the entire magic system dumped on you all at once. I just had a hard time with it. But about halfway through Part 2 it finds its stride.

Edgedancer was fine. Interested to see what role Lift will play in the future. I thought Wyndle was by far the best part of it.

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I may be misremembering but it does not have the Samderlanche he is known for and it felt disjointed

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Oh wow... I completely disagree. I think the Sanderlanch in Warbreaker is one of my favorites. The culmination of Lightsong's story and finally seeing Vasher use Nightblood, not to mention finally finding out how Vasher defeated the greatest swordsman in history. All the storylines converge at the end and are very rewarding, imo.

Honestly, I can't even remember the Sanderlanch in Well of Ascension and only remember the outcome in Hero of Ages. I feel like both those books just benefit from a great magic system/world and characters we grew to love in the Final Empire. Those following two books are very average and are outshined by Era 2, per my tastes.

For Elantris, i equate it to an entire book sitting with depressed Kaladin. Kill me now. One of the main things I love about fantasy novels is the magic, which Elantris doesn't have for most of the book. Then, on top of that, one of my favorite things about Sanderson is his magic systems... again, not until the very end. At least, with Kaladin, we do get to see him kicking ass and interacting with investiture constantly throughout the series.

I never see myself ever rereading Elantris.

I haven't seen much discussion on this thread about expectations for WaT, and the entire second arc of Stormlight. I have not read any of the released chapters yet, so please no spoilers from WaT.

RoW Spoilers
I'm starting to lean toward Dalinar losing the contest of champions and being forced into leading Odium's armies across the Cosmere. I think we eventually see other invested characters from other worlds fighting those with Stormlight.

All I know is that Brandon wrote three different endings that he gave to alpha and beta readers. Based on the feedback he was able to combine elements on all three. This was a recent interview

I think something bad has to happen but I am not sure having Dalinar becoming fused is it. That feels very limiting

One I saw and honestly not sure how it would work but would be interesting if all humans were returned to Braize

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All I know is that Brandon wrote three different endings that he gave to alpha and beta readers. Based on the feedback he was able to combine elements on all three. This was a recent interview

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I saw someone on twitter say each version was probably a different main character getting killed off. And after feedback he realized he just needs to kill off all three.

Very jealous

I had read the prologue a year ago but it amazes me still was a colossal ****ing idiot and dickwad Gavilar is

Done

https://texags.com/forums/13/topics/3515987/replies/69228021

Welp, the mad lad is going to do it. I've speculated about this before as a "I wonder if it is possible…" kind of thing years ago and here we are now.

Guess he announced it live during his con. Leatherbounds of the Wheel of Time. Another site has info that the plan for now is one a year.

Ugh. I don't even like WoT and want it now.

https://www.dragonsteelbooks.com/pages/the-eye-of-the-world-dragonsteel-deluxe-edition

Yes please