rambo_99 said:

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Wait what?! It was very clear in the last car ride scene when he grabbed his daughters hand he had a white hand.

Also at the end Roland is introduced and shakes everyone's hand but purples' daughter. Was it his daughter he lost the entire time. That's why his son got upset when he brought her up. He says at the end "did I lose you"

Was the white hand in the car scene at the end a Hoyt?

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Thought I saw a white hand too
Just took it as weird lighting

I don't think there is anything off with the relationship of the daughter except she doesn't like to visit home

I think if they were gonna do a twist like that (Becca being dead) they would have made it more obvious. Also, what about the scene dropping her off at college? I agree that scene with him riding home with Becca was strange. When he asked her if he lost her, she said no then just said "i haven't..." and "I can't....."

Hard to say what she was going to say, but im assuming she just has a hard time seeing her dad losing his mind so she just stays away.

If she was dead who was driving the car?


Also I was hoping they were going to tie it to season one but that was a nice curveball to throw in there.

I was under the impression she was meaning that she couldn't see her dad losing his mind. It's very hard for a child to watch their parent vanish. Not sure if that is what it meant though

Perhaps we are going down the rabbit hole with Wayne's daughter and himmimagining her. Here's an Instagram post where the director explains what happened to Wayne's wife. Clearly Becca is still alive based on his response.

He also discusses how Amelia died.

https://ibb.co/vPJcCCN

rambo_99 said:

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Watch again. I watched 3x. It's a white hand

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It's not it's just the lighting. You can see Hays shirt and watch too.

This is really an absurd theory. Nic P. has said it was not an unreliable narrator story. The only things that were in Hays mind were obviously shown in an ethereal dreamy state. His memories were real it was just sometimes they had to be triggered.

there isn't some giant hidden trick here - it is what we saw.

How difficult must the lawncare of been at that nunnery for them to hand over Julie to their lawn guy?

"We will let her go with you, just please keep the kudzu from taking over the building. "

The reason Roland doesn't shake Becca's hand is he knows her... he greets his buddy of course. And then the son introduces him to his wife the only person there he has not met before. He doesn't shake the sons hand either btw.

Anybody else notice when Roland and purple were discovering the pink room that purple's image in the mirror in the hall was a younger version?

They did a lot of that throughout the episode. None of it seemed all that necessary.

At the time I thought it meant he already knew about the room but forgot. Now I don't think so and feel like you do

Blindside05 said:

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At the time I thought it meant he already knew about the room but forgot. Now I don't think so and feel like you do

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Oh I enjoyed those subtle little things - like the transition from old to young in the car riding sequences. And there were several other times they did the reflection different. They also did that thing where the younger Hays reacts as if he saw something when the older Hays was thinking about that memory (the door moving when reading to the kids, the bar scene last night when he looks over to where older Hays was).

Just selling that time is a flat circle thing.

Not the best finale, but not the worst either. I would say I'm about 70% satisfied with the ending after the journey the first 7 episodes the show took us on. I was thinking the reporter was holding something back, but what I thought it would have been was that Julie was dead. I actually think I would have liked it better had it been presented that way, but Hays and West took one more ride together and figured it out.

It might not have tied everything together in a nice bow, but I still enjoyed this season immensely. My favorite was Ali and Dorf, they were so good together. This isn't up to the level season 1 was, but nothing ever will be for me. This definitely helps to wipe away the bad memories of season 2.

gonemaroon said:

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I was figuring that they maybe just passed away with no relatives younger?

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Yes.... so Julie escaped on or about 1990 actually. I think she escaped just before her fingerprints were found. And then Tom went on Tv . Explains her confused state when she called in about him not being her dad because she had been drugged for 10 years and fed lies by Isabel (dissociation issues).

Junius said Isabel killed herself shortly after. And then Tom must have visited before it could be changed or whatever so Harris did what he thought he should and killed Tom.

At this point you have to assume big man Hoyt sill knew nothing - but his daughter living down in some basement thing isolated from him and everybody is a little odd. But apparently that's how he handled all this - avoidance, travelling and drinking. And he knew the girl was out and felt it best just to leave it all alone - thus threatening Hays to drop it.

So perhaps with Isabel dead Hoyt just had the place closed up since it was no longer in use. And with Harris getting killed too the only person left that knew anything was Junius. And I think we are led to believe Hoyt died within a few years.

Leaving no heirs it would have just been held in trust by the estate as mentioned. Odd that it sat there that long without being sold off or anything. But I guess that's what happened.