Really cool story. Thanks.

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Really cool story. Thanks.

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No worries.

If we ever happen to meet each other at a game someday, I'm sure I'll bore the living sh*t out of you with music business stories. Always glad to offer my opinion.

Seeing as how it's how I pay the bills, I'd say I am worrying about my own self

Y'know, I have to hand it to Redstone. I find myself so angry, not that he is trolling, but how lazy, uninspired, and trite his trolls are. But then, I realize I've been metatrolled. He manages a really magnificent feat: his trolls are in and of themselves trolls. It is brilliant in its inanity; powerful in its banality. Here's to you, you magnificent *******.

Heard this on the radio station the girlfriend had on.

WTF is this crap?

Did they really delete the Redstone post? That was his best one in a while...


Why do some of you get so bent out of shape about Redstone? It's a shtick. And It's pretty funny when he brings his A-game. Plus you have to admire his dedication...

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An example of how different it is now vs. when I moved here.

I remember on several occasions bringing a song idea, or even a song I had finished, to my first publisher (a veteran songwriter named Frank Dycus - wrote Unwound, Marina Del Ray, I'm Gonna Get A Life and a lot of others). I ran my idea or my song by him, and he said something like "oh yeah, that's been written...it was the B side of a George Jones single in 1963" or something similar. I always wondered how the hell I was supposed to know the B sides of ever song that Jones et al had recorded, but the point was that in his mind the song and/or idea weren't original.

Fast forward to now, where not only does everything sound the same, it has virtually the same lyrics...insert "dirt road" here, cut and paste "daisy dukes" there, and ta da! you have a song. Same titles written over and over. Same cliches used over and over. It's taken formulaic writing to an entirely new level, and I hate it.

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Rap and R&B may be even worse that Country. I have reached the point that I will only listen to talk radio when in my truck. There is literally nothing on the radio worth the effort of searching stations.

My kid has taught herself guitar and piano and loves writing. She is always concerned that she's subconsciously copying other songs. She even sent me the video Frick posted above after here songwriting teacher shared it with the class. At 15, she is already looking for internships at local studios here in Austin. Seems like she is more interested in writing music than becoming a star, which is music to my ears.

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Thank god someone else has noticed that the same thing has happened with rap and R&B. Every single time I turn it to a pop station, I hear the exact same type of "Drake style" rap or power ballad "R&B" song. They sound so identical that it's incredibly weird when I hear something different.

Pop music all around is incredibly formulaic way way moreso than it used to be and still people eat it up. I guess the recording studios finally figured out that the average person has a 3 second attention span and has no idea the song is exactly the same as the one some other artist sang the week before.

The only radio stations I can stand to listen to for any period of time are Sirius/XM Octane, Liquid Metal, and Outlaw Country. The hip hop stations are barely tolerable now.

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Rap and R&B may be even worse that Country.

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actually, it seems like mainstream rap, rock, r&b, and country are all converging on the same exact song.

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Rock has actually diverged far away from the other 3 and has split into numerous different subgenres (e.g. metal now has progressive metal, thrash metal, death metal, orchestral metal, etc. and that's just metal). It's really time for the others to do the same because putting everything underneath one main genre clearly isn't working and it is slowly destroying the genre.

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that florida Georgia line song doesn't even make any ****ing sense. so "h.o.l.y." stands for "high on loving you", but in the song he says "you're holy". so what he's saying is "you're high on loving you". is it a song about a narcissistic woman? because it's sure not presented that way.

sorry, it's a slow day at work.

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Almost every single country song is about narcissistic women now. It's why you rarely ever hear songs about a guy sleeping around and generally being a wild man. It's all about the dude singing about how perfect some woman is and how he worships the ground she walks on.

I'm a non professional musician and I can appreciate all types of music. I like to write humorous songs in my spare time. Almost quit college 25 years ago to be a professional.

I like to poke fun at today's country music by writing joke songs with my warped sense of humor. Usually about beer, boats, hunting, fishing, pick up trucks and women...

My latest is called "Sh-itty Friends". It's about a woman that did me wrong... It starts out...

"Yeah, I've got sh-ittyfriends
Don't get me started talking about them
But all my sh-itty friends, are better than you... "

Another one I wrote is called "Breakfast Beer". It's about drinking beer after waking up early to go fishing or hunting...it starts out...

"I'm up in the morning about 5 am
But, I ain't up early to go to the gym
No, that six-pack pop top sound you hear
Is me crack'in open my breakfast beer..."

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I'm a non professional musician and I can appreciate all types of music. I like to write humorous songs in my spare time. Almost quit college 25 years ago to be a professional.

I like to poke fun at today's country music by writing joke songs with my warped sense of humor. Usually about beer, boats, hunting, fishing, pick up trucks and women...

My latest is called "Sh-itty Friends". It's about a woman that did me wrong... It starts out...

"Yeah, I've got sh-ittyfriends
Don't get me started talking about them
But all my sh-itty friends, are better than you... "

Another one I wrote is called "Breakfast Beer". It's about drinking beer after waking up early to go fishing or hunting...it starts out...

"I'm up in the morning about 5 am
But, I ain't up early to go to the gym
No, that six-pack pop top sound you hear
Is me crack'in open my breakfast beer..."

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Is it bad that I can hear the exact intro to these songs and the stupid wannabe country voice inflections that one of these scrubs would use to sing these with?

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I'm a non professional musician and I can appreciate all types of music. I like to write humorous songs in my spare time. Almost quit college 25 years ago to be a professional.

I like to poke fun at today's country music by writing joke songs with my warped sense of humor. Usually about beer, boats, hunting, fishing, pick up trucks and women...

My latest is called "Sh-itty Friends". It's about a woman that did me wrong... It starts out...

"Yeah, I've got sh-ittyfriends
Don't get me started talking about them
But all my sh-itty friends, are better than you... "

Another one I wrote is called "Breakfast Beer". It's about drinking beer after waking up early to go fishing or hunting...it starts out...

"I'm up in the morning about 5 am
But, I ain't up early to go to the gym
No, that six-pack pop top sound you hear
Is me crack'in open my breakfast beer..."

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Hate to break it to you, but a Canadian beat you to it...

Breakfast Beer

Strange. I told a few folks about my song back a few months ago. They knew some people in the business.

This Canadian song came out last month


Such is life.

I don't think it is as much satire as him just having fun but that is my opinion.

Not a big fan of his music, but thought this was interesting.

Kevin Fowler poking fun at bro country

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Hate to break it to you, but a Canadian beat you to it...

Breakfast Beer

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JB and the Moonshine band did "Beer for Breakfast" 4 years ago



Pat Green's "Here we go" has the lyric "lone star beer in my cereal and it's keeping me alive"



My point is just b/c it's been written about before doesn't mean you can't have an interesting take on it. Now, if everyone and their cousin starts recording songs about beer for breakfast, then yes, it will get tiring.

My comment was regarding the specific title, "Breakfast Beer".

It's always sucky when you write something you think is really good, and the week you turn it in somebody release a song with the exact same title - because it means your song is dead in the water.

And nobody knows better than me that the same ideas get written over and over. I had a song recorded by The Oak Ridge Boys in 2006 called "Something In The Water", same as the Carrie Underwood hit. Also had a Ray Price cut called "Look What Followed Me Home" a few years before David Ball had his hit with the same title. There are very, very few completely original ideas...and even fewer original "themes" to write about.

okay, I see what you mean.

Kinda funny that George Strait has 2 separate songs titled "She'll leave you with a smile"

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okay, I see what you mean.

Kinda funny that George Strait has 2 separate songs titled "She'll leave you with a smile"

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I've always wondered about that.

rb is Brett James?

No...Brett wrote the Carrie Underwood version, I wrote the one the Oak Ridge Boys recorded. Brett and I both serve as legislative chairs for the Nashville Songwriters Association.

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I don't think it is as much satire as him just having fun but that is my opinion.

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But, at some point, isn't that one in the same?

Lots of Baylor jokes?

Do you refer to yourself as a Tony nominated writer?

I haven't talked to Brett since the Baylor stuff broke, but I'm sure I'll get a couple of digs in. And as for the other question, I prefer to refer to myself as a stuntman in porno movies.

Adobe Walls is yours? Heard that at Harry's when the dude still wore a hat. Jesus thats bueno.

Yep, I wrote Adobe Walls with a good friend Luke Reed, who performs at a lot of cowboy festivals and events. He lives in Santa Fe, NM now, and if you get the chance to hear him, you should.

We used to write a lot of cowboy music together (we had a cut on a cowboy singer named Don Edwards call "Line Shack Blues"), and we had originally intended that song to be a historical ballad about the battle of Adobe Walls. Problem was, there are a lot of versions about what exactly happened at that battle and we didn't know which storyline to go with....so on a whim, I said "why don't we just make it a love song", and we wound up writing it on the fire escape outside my office at WarnerSongs.

It's been recorded a lot...Gary Allan obviously, but also Michael Martin Murphy, Craig Chambers, Kevin Davis, my co-writer Luke, and several others I can't recall off the top of my head. Lacking any humility whatsoever, my favorite version is mine - was on an album I did for Decca in '96 that bombed. If you're a real glutton for punishment, I've linked it.

Adobe Walls

Haven't listened to country consistently in about 15 years but I am liking this Dallas native

thats a killer version, too

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Very nice

Quite possibly the best country song to come out in 2013:

This is crazy to think about: http://www.savingcountrymusic.com/humble-and-kind-is-first-solo-written-song-to-hit-1-in-4-years/

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Another illustration of just how rare the feat is, out of the entire 60-song Country Airplay chart this week, "Humble and Kind" is the only current single written by one person.

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Eric Church of all people is calling out Country music for being to homogenized.

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Eric Church believes in the power and longevity of country music, but he's disappointed in the way the genre has developed lately, he says. According to the artist, country has a special place in the American conscience, but because of its growing and widespread popularity, it has gotten away from its roots.

"Country has become a bigger umbrella. It's good and bad," Church shares with the Las Vegas Sun. "Country has become too homogenized and too commercial. It has lost what makes it special. It's great that it's popular, but then it starts to become watered down."

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