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Music being infiltrated and destroyed by overt commercialization? Check It's not like they are infiltrating Red Dirt, they just happen to be drowning it out.

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Red Dirt is being push aside, not by the young hipsters, but, by the old guard that would rather to Waylon again for the 1000th time instead of checking out a Justin Townes Earle or a Lindy Ortega. I'm not familiar with the current scene but isnt Cross Canadian Ragweed the best known Red Dirt group working right now? There's got to be better acts than that, no?

Mike McClure Band, The Damn Quails, Johnny Cooper, Cooder Graw is back together

And Cross Canadian Ragweed broke up. Cody Canada and the Departed is a lot more alt-country than red dirt IMO

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Nothing funnier than watching country music fans getting their feathers ruffled over what songwriter or band is better or more country than the other ("I listen to country music that is more authentic than everyone else.")

Hipsters and true country fans are actually pretty similar:
Stupid/Ironic accessories? Belt buckle/thick rimmed glasses/suspenders. Check
City to define your love/disdain? Nashville/Brooklyn. Check
Tight jeans? Check
Facial Hair? Check
Taylor Swift? Check
Sturgeon Simpson and Drive-By Truckers? Check
PBR? Check
Music being infiltrated and destroyed by overt commercialization? Check

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This doesn't even make sense. It probably could have, it's just that none of your examples are remotely true.

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I think the point is that both Hipsters and Country bros choose to define themselves by what they like, and wear, and drink, listen to, more than any sense of inner self. It's like there is this definition of what makes you a hipster and likewise a definition of what makes you a country bro. Once you know the signs to look for, ie. beards and thick rimmed glasses/jeans and mullets you can point them out from a mile away, because they are obsessed with "fitting the part". This article does a pretty good job of explaining that theory using hipsters.

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So are you saying people from New Hampshire can't be country bumpkins?

But who cares if a country singer is from the sticks or not in the first place?

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I suppose that someone in rural NH could be a country bumpkin, but how many C&W recording artists have come from NH?

I guess what I'm trying to express (and maybe I'm not doing a good job of it) is that I think good music, regardless of genre, should have an element of authenticity. I'm sorry but there is nothing authentic about the dude from Staind now trying to convince me that he's always been into muddin' and big tractors. It seems that any time some artist has a dry spell, they inevitably end up doing a country record. I think this is because the majority of C&W radio listeners are highly malleable and will lap up whatever mainstream country radio feeds them. Notice that when 'crossovers' are talked about, it rarely is C&W moving away from country. It's typically someone from other genres moving toward country. I think that is because C&W radio can do easily be manipulated by big money.

There are tons of country/americana hipsters out there but most of them I've come across have been at shows/fests in Austin and Nashville. All of those examples could apply to them (probably not DBT though) but they're not the majority. Good country music appeals to a wide variety of people.

Are you saying Hipsters like T Swizzle?

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Yes, those are parodies, but somehow this one is real and serious:

I've heard worse. Plus, JFF sighting.

I liked Dangerous Toys' first album. I don't think KF was in the original lineup.

DT was immensely talented. They just had really terrible, cheesy songs.

That one is definitely not FGL level bad, but I don't think someone who puts that out is in any position to lampoon any country music artists.

Good point.

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I'm no fan of bro country, but the purists go out of their way to sound like old geezers.

"Get off my lawn with your beer and your scantily dressed women!"

I guess they miss the days of hundreds of people sitting in front of the stage quietly listening, and then golf clapping upon completion of a song.

The most fun is the anti pop country crowd who owns the whole collection of cross Canadian ragweed albums and thinks boys of Oklahoma is the coolest song ever.

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I usually have my radar up for old timers syndrome but I think you're off base here.

I don't dislike anything new. I dislike sh*t. This music is sh*t. I think your characterization of older music being tame and the 'golf clap' as you put is off base, also. Bro country didn't invent drinking and womanizing. But it has taken it to a highly superficial and lowest common denominator level.

Ultimately it's about making art. At least it should be. Complex doesn't equal good and simplistic doesn't equal bad. But there are some basic elements to the art from that need to be met. This stuff doesn't even try. I'm so lonesome I could cry is one of the most simplistic pieces of music ever made, but I also think it's one of the top 5 songs ever written.

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I don't think Max Stalling has been mentioned yet, one of my favorite musicians if you're looking for something a little more mellow.

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df, "Scared" and "Queen of the Nile" weren't bad. But overall, yeah ...

Semi country related

I was watching Foo Fighters: Sonic Highways on HBO and last week's episode was about Nashville. Toward the end of the episode they had a section that greatly criticized the current pop- bro country scene of nashville that made me think of this thread. For those of you with HBO, I recommend watching it as they did a great job showing the music history of nashville.

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Semi country related

I was watching Foo Fighters: Sonic Highways on HBO and last week's episode was about Nashville. Toward the end of the episode they had a section that greatly criticized the current pop- bro country scene of nashville that made me think of this thread. For those of you with HBO, I recommend watching it as they did a great job showing the music history of nashville.

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I read through the entire thread hoping that I would get to make this point. Cajun beat me to it. The Nashville episode of Sonic Highways really blew me away. The whole show has been great, but this episode was superb and captured the evolution of country and the machine it has become.

And the Austin episode is the next to air.

I fly by the CMA's and just as I turn it on, Florida Georgia Line is winning an award. I think the announcer said it's their second of the night.

This Week's Sign That The Apocalpyse Is Upon Us....

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I fly by the CMA's and just as I turn it on, Florida Georgia Line is winning an award. I think the announcer said it's their second of the night.

This Week's Sign That The Apocalpyse Is Upon Us....

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To add insult to injury, Luke Bryan won 'Entertainer of the Year'. This has to seriously be some kind of sick joke.

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I fly by the CMA's and just as I turn it on, Florida Georgia Line is winning an award. I think the announcer said it's their second of the night.

This Week's Sign That The Apocalpyse Is Upon Us....

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To add insult to injury, Luke Bryan won 'Entertainer of the Year'. This has to seriously be some kind of sick joke.

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George Strait deserved that award.

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I fly by the CMA's and just as I turn it on, Florida Georgia Line is winning an award. I think the announcer said it's their second of the night.

This Week's Sign That The Apocalpyse Is Upon Us....

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To add insult to injury, Luke Bryan won 'Entertainer of the Year'. This has to seriously be some kind of sick joke.

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I really hope rednecks are happy with what they've allowed this crap to become.

Just go to one of the bro country concerts and people watch. That should be enough to tell you what is going on. Ugh.

come on now - i love george strait and hate bro country, but complaining about award shows?

award shows of all types (movies, music, tv, etc) are just industry circle jerks - nothing being "awarded" is based on anything tangible or real. just know that going in and you can either ignore the award shows or mock them and enjoy their stupidity.

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I would consider it sacrilegious to say anything less than that they are god awful. They are so unbelievably horribly, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmatically insensitive to the magic of the art that they qualify as crowned heads of anti-music, even as the imposter popes went down in history as "anti-popes."

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Musically they are a near disaster, guitars and drums slamming out a merciless beat that does away with secondary rhythms, harmony and melody. Their lyrics (punctuated by nutty shouts of "yeah, yeah, yeah") are a catastrophe, a preposterous farrago of Valentine-card romantic sentiments.

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"xxxxx can't sing, can't play the guitar, and can't dance. Yet two thousand idiots per show yelp every time he opens his mouth, plucks a guitar string, or shakes his pelvis like any striptease babe in town."

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sure, he wears his heart on his sleeve, they say. But that's just so nobody notices his hand on his wallet

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Sure, bro country music is over produced and based around selling the most records for the most money. But, its just another evolution of country music, moving more towards mainstream popularity and farther away from old-school (30+ years old) country.

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I got theory on the end of bro country... wait for it... Garth Brooks.

Yes, I know Chris Gaines arguably started bro country movement, but I believe Garth hates what country music has become. His new album is called Man Against The Machine.

Say what you will about Garth. The dude is the #1 selling solo artist of all time. He has a knack for picking thoughtful songs with simple lyrics that tell a story.

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Well, Garth's new album dropped today. And it sucks. Hard. He even admitted to the album being influenced by Jason Aldean. Just terrible.

Why does he have to look like a dewsh nozzle ?

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Well, Garth's new album dropped today. And it sucks. Hard. He even admitted to the album being influenced by Jason Aldean. Just terrible.

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Oh god, this is what he's become? That seriously looks like some kind of meta-parody. Sucks to see... You were great Garth, but George Strait is the king.

But then again, Garth Brooks is still awesome.


http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/garth-brooks-serenades-fan-suffering-cancer-concert-article-1.2005683

I hate to sound so cynical, but it's interesting that Garth does something to get himself covered on the news the day before his album drops

Damn country is a parody unto itself. Look at ol Garth.

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I would consider it sacrilegious to say anything less than that they are god awful. They are so unbelievably horribly, so appallingly unmusical, so dogmaticallcey insensitive to the magic of the art that they qualify as crowned heads of anti-music, even as the imposter popes went down in history as "anti-popes."

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Musically they are a near disaster, guitars and drums slamming out a merciless beat that does away with secondary rhythms, harmony and melody. Their lyrics (punctuated by nutty shouts of "yeah, yeah, yeah") are a catastrophe, a preposterous farrago of Valentine-card romantic sentiments.

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"xxxxx can't sing, can't play the guitar, and can't dance. Yet two thousand idiots per show yelp every time he opens his mouth, plucks a guitar string, or shakes his pelvis like any striptease babe in town."

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sure, he wears his heart on his sleeve, they say. But that's just so nobody notices his hand on his wallet

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Sure, bro country music is over produced and based around selling the most records for the most money. But, its just another evolution of country music, moving more towards mainstream popularity and farther away from old-school (30+ years old) country.

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I fly by the CMA's and just as I turn it on, Florida Georgia Line is winning an award. I think the announcer said it's their second of the night.

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Yeah my son had them on his iPod, probably by accident. I told him never to play that crap around me.

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I hate to sound so cynical, but it's interesting that Garth does something to get himself covered on the news the day before his album drops

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I'm trying to stop being so cynical. I'm choosing to believe it was just a cool coincidence.

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When did Billy Liucci come out with a country album?

He looks really plasticky on that album cover.