AliasMan02 said:

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People could just objectively and respectfully discuss their opinions without throwing fits. That would be a start, and I don't think that's too much to ask of this community. And, as many recall, that was how this forum overwhelmingly was for a LONG time.

Basically, everyone should just post in a way that FAST FRED would have approved of.

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I don't disagree. And FAST FRED will always be a shining example. It's just really, really hard when the blatant ignorance drips as thickly as it did from that post. That kind of stuff simply sets me off. I'm trying to be better about ignoring stuff like that, but this board sometimes makes it harder and harder to do so.

Are you telling me there's a Salsa Burger at Whataburger?!

Thank you for this. Headed back to Texas tomorrow for a wedding (yes, on the same day as the Bama game) and reading this not knowing when I'd get to have Whataburger again would have been pure torture.

Sweet & spicy bacon burger... prepare thy anus now!

AliasMan02 said:

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People could just objectively and respectfully discuss their opinions without throwing fits. That would be a start, and I don't think that's too much to ask of this community. And, as many recall, that was how this forum overwhelmingly was for a LONG time.

Basically, everyone should just post in a way that FAST FRED would have approved of.

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I'm all for this, and honestly that's what I tried to do in my last post about not liking Rian Johnson. I didn't attack anybody else for their opinion on him, I didn't use any hyperboles, and I don't feel that I went on overly long. So my question is this.... is every sort of "negative commentary" frowned upon? Is there room for civil disagreement?

I get not wanting to rehash what we felt was wrong with The Last Jedi at this point in time, by all means that's been over done to death, but with my last post I was honestly explaining why my expectation for the future of Star Wars will be lowered if it involves Rian Johnson. I felt like that topic was fair game for discussion, but if it's not, then fine. I truly don't want to contribute to this board being a drag.

FL_Ag1998 said:

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AliasMan02 said:

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People could just objectively and respectfully discuss their opinions without throwing fits. That would be a start, and I don't think that's too much to ask of this community. And, as many recall, that was how this forum overwhelmingly was for a LONG time.

Basically, everyone should just post in a way that FAST FRED would have approved of.

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I'm all for this, and honestly that's what I tried to do in my last post about not liking Rian Johnson. I didn't attack anybody else for their opinion on him, I didn't use any hyperboles, and I don't feel that I went on overly long. So my question is this.... is every sort of "negative commentary" frowned upon? Is there room for civil disagreement?

I get not wanting to rehash what we felt was wrong with The Last Jedi at this point in time, by all means that's been over done to death, but with my last post I was honestly explaining why my expectation for the future of Star Wars will be lowered if it involves Rian Johnson. I felt like that topic was fair game for discussion, but if it's not, then fine. I truly don't want to contribute to this board being a drag.

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All negative commentary is frowned on unless you're one of a few select posters. Those special few can post negative all they want, but they will also be sure to remind you that you need to move along or that YOUR negative opinions are not welcome on this thread.

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And another post that would've passed on with not much comment that now may blow up into several pages of efights because some of you have elected yourself police of content on this thread.

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The irony. So thick here.

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Poster 1: I tried the new Salsa burger at Whataburger. It was terrible. F Whataburger. Oh and now they want me to try their new Spicy Chicken sandwich? F that. It's just going to be more terrible food. Terrible. I'll never set foot inside a Whataburger until they start making some badass burgers again.

Poster 2: Wait, how do you know the new Spicy Chicken is terrible if you haven't tried it? And regardless of that fact you hated the Salsa burger, I've had the new Spicy Chicken and it's really good. And the fries were good. At least give it a try before you say it's bad and everything Whataburger makes now sucks.

Poster 3: You know, if you'd just keep your opinions to yourself Mr Food Critic, this wouldn't turn in to a big argument.

Poster 2: Wait, what?

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But throughout this I've absolutely felt that Johnson did in fact triple down on shamelessly pandering to certain groups and demographics. Worse, the allegations leveled at many people who were critical of the film have been horribly unfair. You can in fact dislike TLJ and not be a misogynistic ass hole. That's always bothered me.

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Man, I'm not going to go deep into it or off on a rage filled rant, but in my opinion TLJ was bad enough that Rian Johnson is a bad writer and filmmaker in my eyes.

He didn't make "daring and controversial choices" that are better suited for a more narrow audience via streaming. He wrote horrible dialogue and a horrendous plot. That's not going to be any different on the small screen or in his own serial of movies.

I'll see another one of his upcoming Star Wars movies/shows at some point simply because I love the property and so does my 9 year old son. But it won't be opening weekend, or likely even in the theaters. And if its actually decent, I'll say so, but at this point I'm not excited by the thought of it. Just the thought of him potentially being the forerunner of one of the expected Star Wars shows on their streaming network is dampening my enthusiasm for it.

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Seriously think it might be a good idea to start a stand alone thread to post pent up Star Wars anger fits.

These discussions have gone on and on for months and months. Nothing wrong with voicing opinions but hashing out the same sh** over and over again, months and months later, is pointless to this thread.

IMO of course.

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nvm

wait, is Fast Fred dead? Not that I know him but I enjoy his posts

In believe he passed a year ago. A family member posted under his account and let the board know.

I love the way these kind of artists show emotion

The lack of interest for Solo was momentum built up from TLJ + people not wanting the movie. Man, if Disney would have just given it some breathing room from VIII... they were cocky as hell about The Last Jedi. I truly believe they thought it was a great film, and that's what is most concerning moving forward. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that Filoni needs creative control or at least creative veto moving forward.

I agree it needed more breathing room. It would have made a lot of sense to push it back to Christmas 2018 (although this December is PACKED with films vying for that "Star Wars" slot now). BUT they were in a rough spot. It had gotten so much negative press during production, that pushing it back would have been viewed as another sign the movie was troubled.

I do think, going forward, it would be good for Disney & Lucasfilm to stop doing character prequels and spin-offs and just focus on story prequels and spin-offs. Rogue One was good because it was a story we were all interested in. It made use of some familiar characters, but the real push was the story. So instead of a young Han Solo to explore that time in Empire, it would be cool to see other, new characters in that time period in the universe, etc. They'd have to do a bit more marketing to get audiences excited about that, initially. But then they wouldn't have to worry about the downside, which is ruining characters for people, which ends up with A LOT of backlash (see TLJ or the prequels). If Solo was about some unknown character and made the kind of money it did, it would be viewed as a success.

In all fairness to the TLJ (and Solo does this too), it does look like they are trying to pivot away from a few crucial characters to building out the universe more so that Star Wars can continue for the long haul and not just live on Jedi mythology and the Skywalkers or tangential stories to those threads. Like that or not, if we really want a Star Wars movie every year, they are going to have to do that at some point, in my opinion.

start the movement, I'll sign the petition

edit to add- The Last Jedi Holiday Special

Man that looks good! Wish that would happen but made it a tv show and possibly add the comics to it for more context.

RIP Gary Kurtz

Star Wars RTS is my guess. A revival of Galactic Battlegrounds.

The ILMxLab post reminded me of this. Now in Plano, TX

STAR WARS: SECRETS OF THE EMPIRE



My son and I did this the other day and I have to say it's pretty cool.

I've been curious about this. Looks pretty cool, but I'm always skeptical of VR which has been the next big thing for 30 years now.

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Star Wars RTS is my guess. A revival of Galactic Battlegrounds.

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I want to live in a world where this is true.