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As long as it sticks to certain Force-related dogma and doesn't twist it all up. But I don't think he'll have learned his lesson from TLJ wrt Subverted Expectations.

But I guess he doesn't care as long as he got paid.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

As long as it sticks to certain Force-related dogma and doesn't twist it all up. But I don't think he'll have learned his lesson from TLJ wrt Subverted Expectations.

But I guess he doesn't care as long as he got paid.


Don't think it's fair to categorize RJ as some sort of Merc. The dude clearly loves Star Wars, even if he made some bad decisions and disappointed us.
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Well said. Agreed.
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AliasMan02 said:

SpreadsheetAg said:

As long as it sticks to certain Force-related dogma and doesn't twist it all up. But I don't think he'll have learned his lesson from TLJ wrt Subverted Expectations.

But I guess he doesn't care as long as he got paid.


Don't think it's fair to categorize RJ as some sort of Merc. The dude clearly loves Star Wars, even if he made some bad decisions and disappointed us.
I don't necessarily disagree, but if he truly loved Star Wars he would not have made the movie he made. Maybe he's now still subverting expectations by going after the money. His fans couldn't blame him.
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Here we go again
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Well, if he is directing it, it's not happening anytime soon.
https://deadline.com/2018/09/daniel-craig-rian-johnson-knives-out-james-bond-25-star-wars-the-last-jedi-toronto-film-festival-auction-1202456539/

I think it's at the very least on hold.
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Johnson has always said that he might try to squeeze in another, smaller movie first. We were never going to get the first movie in his trilogy in 2020. He shoots Knives Out later this year for what I'm guessing will be a fall 2019 premiere. Then he could easily start filming his next SW effort summer 2020 for a December 2021 release (same schedule Abrams is on for IX).
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Further, if he truly loves Star Wars, he'd stay away for the good of the franchise.
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SpreadsheetAg said:

Further, if he truly loves Star Wars, he'd stay away for the good of the franchise.

Give it a rest, man.
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I'm actually interested in what Johnson can do with a story and characters of his own creation set in the Star Wars universe. Like most, I hope he lays off the ham-fisted morality and political angles, but I'm not completely unwilling to give him a second chance.
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Man, I'm not going to go deep into it or off on a rage filled rant, but in my opinion TLJ was bad enough that Rian Johnson is a bad writer and filmmaker in my eyes.

He didn't make "daring and controversial choices" that are better suited for a more narrow audience via streaming. He wrote horrible dialogue and a horrendous plot. That's not going to be any different on the small screen or in his own serial of movies.

I'll see another one of his upcoming Star Wars movies/shows at some point simply because I love the property and so does my 9 year old son. But it won't be opening weekend, or likely even in the theaters. And if its actually decent, I'll say so, but at this point I'm not excited by the thought of it. Just the thought of him potentially being the forerunner of one of the expected Star Wars shows on their streaming network is dampening my enthusiasm for it.
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Ditto. It's like watching Aggie Football with Fran as head coach after the 77-0 debacle. It's Aggie Football so I'll watch and root for the team, but it doesn't mean I didn't want Franchione fired.
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Add me to the no more RJ camp. there are so many other directors to try.
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Seriously think it might be a good idea to start a stand alone thread to post pent up Star Wars anger fits.

These discussions have gone on and on for months and months. Nothing wrong with voicing opinions but hashing out the same sh** over and over again, months and months later, is pointless to this thread.

IMO of course
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sounds like something a RJ sympathizer would say.

jk... agree.


Here's a rare pic of ammunitions gathering for the first line of defense on Hoth:

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Goddammit, all I can think of is "Do you want to build a snowman?"
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Flashdiaz said:

sounds like something a RJ sympathizer would say.

jk... agree.


Here's a rare pic of ammunitions gathering for the first line of defense on Hoth:




Fun fact: Carrie is so happy because it's her birthday and she was just told that all of the prop snow is cocaine.
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Urban Ag said:

Seriously think it might be a good idea to start a stand alone thread to post pent up Star Wars anger fits.

These discussions have gone on and on for months and months. Nothing wrong with voicing opinions but hashing out the same sh** over and over again, months and months later, is pointless to this thread.

IMO of course


Comments so far have been pretty innocuous. I personally feel the rush to "not make a big deal about TLJ" ends up making it a bigger deal than it would be if people just let others vent without taking offense to it all the time.

I also don't get why it seems like some of you feel that it's okay for you to say something negative about Star Wars, but anytime somebody else does it's all the sudden "time to move on."
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I was so going there, didn't want to though, so thanks for handling.
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lol, disney 'slowing down' star wars production due to solo poor performance and 'too much content'

disney, the movies bombed because TLJ ABSOLUTELY ****ING TOTALLY SUCKED ASS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY AND INTENTIONALLY TRASHED ALMOST EVERYTHING LEFT OF THE ORIGINAL MOVIE THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING!!!

I havent even seen solo, because the casting is obviously pretty pathetic, and I wouldn't trust a movie ticket price tag to the *******s that fed me TLJ.

But from what I have heard, its just more marshmellowy, ambiguously gay millennial bull****, and I don't mean that in a 'falcon' type of way.

Make some really good movies, with real badasses, good and bad, and we will go see as many as you make, disney.

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cbr said:

lol, disney 'slowing down' star wars production due to solo poor performance and 'too much content'

disney, the movies bombed because TLJ ABSOLUTELY ****ING TOTALLY SUCKED ASS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY AND INTENTIONALLY TRASHED ALMOST EVERYTHING LEFT OF THE ORIGINAL MOVIE THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING!!!

I havent even seen solo, because the casting is obviously pretty pathetic, and I wouldn't trust a movie ticket price tag to the *******s that fed me TLJ.

But from what I have heard, its just more marshmellowy, ambiguously gay millennial bull****, and I don't mean that in a 'falcon' type of way.

Make some really good movies, with real badasses, good and bad, and we will go see as many as you make, disney.


What? The casting was amazing.
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Urban Ag said:

Seriously think it might be a good idea to start a stand alone thread to post pent up Star Wars anger fits.

These discussions have gone on and on for months and months. Nothing wrong with voicing opinions but hashing out the same sh** over and over again, months and months later, is pointless to this thread.

IMO of course

If Johnson were one and done, that might work. But because he's part of the future of Star Wars as well, any time his name is mentioned in an update from here on out, someone will always feel the need to chime in and say how much they hated TLJ, diss Johnson, etc. I've let my feelings be known on the subject over the course a couple bigger discussions, when it felt appropriate - and don't need to say another word on the subject - but there will never not be the people who don't keep up with this thread, who see "TLJ" or Johnson's name, and will be triggered into saying something. I'm afraid it's just something we're going to have to deal with at least until late 2019, when we finally have another movie and a TV show to direct our love or hate towards, and I think at that point all the Johnson discussion will finally die down. That is, until 2021 or so and we have to go through this all over again.
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cbr said:

lol, disney 'slowing down' star wars production due to solo poor performance and 'too much content'

disney, the movies bombed because TLJ ABSOLUTELY ****ING TOTALLY SUCKED ASS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY AND INTENTIONALLY TRASHED ALMOST EVERYTHING LEFT OF THE ORIGINAL MOVIE THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING!!!

I havent even seen solo, because the casting is obviously pretty pathetic, and I wouldn't trust a movie ticket price tag to the *******s that fed me TLJ.

But from what I have heard, its just more marshmellowy, ambiguously gay millennial bull****, and I don't mean that in a 'falcon' type of way.

Make some really good movies, with real badasses, good and bad, and we will go see as many as you make, disney.



This doesn't even justify a response, as you clearly have an ax to grind, but A) the casting was decidedly *not* pathetic, as anyone who has actually seen the movie will attest, and B) You've clearly "heard" from the wrong people, as there is literally nothing "ambiguously gay" about this movie, nor does it feature "millennial bullsh*t."

As for "really good movies, with with badasses, good and bad," this is exactly that. I can think of multiple "badasses" featured prominently in it, but you obviously don't understand who Han is at his core if clear cut "good and bad" is the only thing that works for you. He's always been a lovable scoundrel with a conscious, which, by definition, means he's someone who's struggling to do good, and good is of course what wins out, but it's a fight to get there.

In short, please keep your ridiculously shortsighted, shallow, and bias opinions out of this thread, at least until you've seen the movie for yourself.
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Solo was a darn good movie. It's a shame more people didn't go to the theater to see it. I think some people will give in and watch it now that it is available for home viewing, and it will become more popular.
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And another post that would've passed on with not much comment that now may blow up into several pages of efights because some of you have elected yourself police of content on this thread.
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In the face of ignorance, I'm always going to argue for a good movie. Sorry if that makes me a cop.
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cbr said:

lol, disney 'slowing down' star wars production due to solo poor performance and 'too much content'

disney, the movies bombed because TLJ ABSOLUTELY ****ING TOTALLY SUCKED ASS IN EVERY POSSIBLE WAY AND INTENTIONALLY TRASHED ALMOST EVERYTHING LEFT OF THE ORIGINAL MOVIE THAT WAS THE FOUNDATION FOR EVERYTHING!!!

I havent even seen solo, because the casting is obviously pretty pathetic, and I wouldn't trust a movie ticket price tag to the *******s that fed me TLJ.

But from what I have heard, its just more marshmellowy, ambiguously gay millennial bull****, and I don't mean that in a 'falcon' type of way.

Make some really good movies, with real badasses, good and bad, and we will go see as many as you make, disney.




Man-baby alert
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TCTTS said:

In the face of ignorance, I'm always going to argue for a good movie. Sorry if that makes me a cop.


You can just say "Solo was good, you should watch it and then judge it."
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bangobango said:

And another post that would've passed on with not much comment that now may blow up into several pages of efights because some of you have elected yourself police of content on this thread.

The irony. So thick here.
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#theforceisfemale
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Toptierag2018 said:

#theforceisfemale
Uh, no. Females can't impregnate other females (Anakin)

/taking this seriously in any way, I am not
edited to restructure disclaimer in Yoda format
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That's fine. I'm not trying to playing board cop and I've been pretty vocal about my disdain for the TLJ and some of RJ's antics. Regardless, just seems like we beat this dead horse over and over again. But if that's what people want to do here, so bet it I guess.
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I hear you. I don't like it anymore than you do, I just don't know how to solve it. Johnson's name will always be in the news, and no matter how much we try to keep all the b*tching to another thread, it'll no doubt keep popping up here.
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People could just objectively and respectfully discuss their opinions without throwing fits. That would be a start, and I don't think that's too much to ask of this community. And, as many recall, that was how this forum overwhelmingly was for a LONG time.

Basically, everyone should just post in a way that FAST FRED would have approved of.
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