**** Official The Hobbit Info Thread ****

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Love that movie poster.
sharkenleo
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Little bit higher resolution



Definitely a cool poster. Looks a tad photoshopped, especially in Gandalf's face, but I won't complain too much.

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sharkenleo
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New Comic Con banner. (It's meant to be presented side by side as a huge, long banner, but for the sake of the thread I won't post it horizontally.)









Needless to say, very epic. Cannot wait to see Beorn kick ass as a bear.

Full banner, in high res

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ja86
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ChipFTAC01
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Galadriel wasn't at Rivendell in the book was she?
sharkenleo
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Not that I can remember. But Jackson has taken these kinds of liberties before. Not a big deal, IMO. We'll definitely be seeing her in The White Council anyway.
sharkenleo
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Another thing - the banner is presenting the story in chronological order, so going by that, I think it's safe to assume that the arrival at Laketown may be the cutoff point for the first film.
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she was not; however, I think they are going to show the white council meeting in rivendell.
ChipFTAC01
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And then it'll be another year for part 2?
ChipFTAC01
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I'm very interested to see the scene in the Great Goblin's chambers. Especially now that we've seen the orcs in Jackson's universe. They're very different from the Hobbits in my head from my childhood.
sharkenleo
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Reading from several sources that the Hobbit reel brought the house down. Will be posting detailed summaries later.
sharkenleo
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From TORn:
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Well, the long wait is over. Peter brought 12 and a half minutes of Hobbit goodness to Comic-Con’s Hall H today, and blew everyone’s minds.

To say the event zoomed past at an overwhelming pace would be an understatement too big to describe. We’re digesting everything we’ve seen and will continue to update as we work through the impressions and information that roared past. Read on for a quick summary and a massive pile of spoilers!

‘The Hobbit’ was brought to the screen after a spate of already amazing films.

A duo of screens sprang to life with a succession of images from the film, taking us rapidly through the storyline: The front door of Bag End, the dwarves gathered around Bilbo’s table, the barrels out of bond and much more.

A production diary chock full of heart-felt messages from the cast, the crew and scenes from throughout the shoot. Dwarf after dwarf, Martin, Andy, Orlando, and more in quick succession.

When Peter stepped on stage, the house leapt to its feet with enough energy to propel themselves into the air.

And then, without much preface, the Film clips roared onto the screen. Thorin addresses the dwarves, “Rumors have begun to spread… the dragon Smaug has not been seen in years, perhaps the vast wealth of our people lie unprotected… Perhaps we take this chance to take back Erebor!”

And on from there.

We can tell you that what we saw was breathtaking in scope and how it brought the story to life.


Other random bits of footage I've read about in tweets and other sources (semi-spoilers):



-Legolas capturing the Dwarfs and lots of "action Legolas" scenes
-Lake-town in flames
-something about a massive pile of gold (could they have shown Smaug's lair this early?)


From what I'm reading, the behind-the-scenes footage that was shown will be made available online shortly. The actual film footage will not, but here's hoping someone at the panel had their video camera out.

Meantime, here's an interview with PJ and the cast: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSgSZHW0q-0

And as of now, the only actual footage from the panel (cast intros): http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=468244643186794
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-Legolas capturing the Dwarfs and lots of "action Legolas" scenes


This leads me to believe he's more than a 'cameo'
sharkenleo
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Yep. Like I predicted earlier in this thread, I think he'll play a big role in the Battle of Five Armies.
sharkenleo
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Much more in-depth run through of the footage (sorry about length):

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Wild applause broke out the moment the hall dimmed, as images only seen before online or in magazine articles filled the screens flanking the audience.

Nothing compares to seeing them up on screen. The front door of Bag End, the dwarves gathered around Bilbo’s table, the barrel scene… all this and more.

Followed by a production diary chock full of heart-felt messages from the cast, the crew and scenes from throughout the shoot. Dwarf after dwarf, Martin, Andy, Orlando, and more in quick succession.

When Peter Jackson stepped on stage, the house leapt to its feet with enough energy to propel themselves into the air.

“Who has been camping out on the street all night” he asked. “ You poor sods. You poor *******s. But thank you very much!”

Bringing Phillipa Boyens out on stage, he introduced her as someone who is “possibly a bigger Tolkien geek than any of you.” I don’t know about the Hall H crowd, but the TORn audience is pretty geeky, so I’m guessing it’s a bit of a toss-up.

What we were about to see had a few not-quite-finished touches Peter said, such as partially-finished effects an temporary music tracks. An update for film score fans: Howard Shore begins recording with the London Philharmonic in the next few weeks.

Also, a Comic-Con extra: never-seen second film footage that made its way into the clips. “But we won’t identify them,” Peter said cheekily.

Then, without any fanfare, the lights dimmed and ‘The Hobbit’ lit up the screen.

The Hobbit showreel:

It opens with a sweeping shot of the green hills of the Shire, with a voiceover from Gandalf intoning “Far to the east lies…” Setting the scene of where they are going -– which is Bag End and the dwarves gathered around Bilbo’s table talking about the quest.

An imposing and grim Thorin Oakenshield heads the table: “Rumors have begun to spread,” he says, “The dragon Smaug has not been seen in many years… Perhaps the vast wealth of our people lies unprotected … perhaps it is time to take back Erebor!”

Gandalf produces the key “It was given to me by your father for safekeeping, it is yours now.”

Fili: “if there’s a key there must be a door!”

This leads in to a discussion of the map and what must be done to go after the long-lost treasure. Gandalf looks to Bilbo… “That is why we need a burglar.”

Martin Freeman is wonderful in this scene, playing a hobbit who is as yet oblivious of what is being designed for him. Even as Gandalf professes the need for a burglar, he agrees but doesn’t quite realize that what Gandalf means is HIM.

“He’s hardly burglar material” the dwarves observe as they regard him skeptically. Which Bilbo happily agrees to. Gandalf then rises to full height and in a deep voice, (much like in Fellowship of the Ring when he says commandingly: “I’m not trying to hurt you, I’m trying to help you”) he warns the dwarves that a burglar he may not is but a burglar he will be.

Because, he says, Smaug is well aware of the scent of dwarf. A Hobbit will be wholly unknown to him. Bilbo looks appropriately horrified.

Thorin and the others are extremely skeptical: “Very well, we’ll do it your way.”

As we saw in the trailer last fall, Thorin says: “I cannot guarantee his safety, nor will I be responsible for his fate.”

“Agreed,” replies Gandalf.

The reading of the contract is hilarious, as Bilbo goes over the terms and the various dwarves jump to reassure him that it will be painless once he’s turned ash. James Nesbitt, as Bofur, is superbly funny.

Then Bilbo faints. Thunk.

A series of quick shots of Radagast follow

Radagast is full-bearded, rough-looking, with a big hat… which we later see conceals a number of birds. He’s cuddling his bunnies and later on we see him racing through the forest on the infamous “bunnysled”.

There’s a quick look at Laketown, which looks amazing. Large boats, almost like pontoons, navigating their way through a warren of canals.

A brief moment of Gandalf speaking to Radagast: “Turn around and do not come back.”

Radagast does come across as very gentle, as we heard out of Cinema-Con reports.

We follow Gandalf into what could only be Dol Guldur. Looking terrified, he races through narrow passages, as we see glimpses of something ominous racing around either away or following him. Very tight quarters, then suddenly a person we assume to be Thrain leaps out and attacks him.

The riddle game…

Cut away to Bilbo and Gollum meeting in the goblin caves. Bilbo is clumsily waving Sting at Gollum, trying to get him to go away.

“I need to get un-lost a soon as possible.” Bilbo tells Gollum. “I don’t know what your game is.”

“GAMES, WE LOVES GAMES, DON’T WE PRECIOUS!?” Says Gollum, who is quickly slipping between Smeagol and his alter ego.

Bilbo, frightened but up for a small shot at escape, “ Let’s play a game. If I win you show me the way out of here.”

It then segues into the riddle game and after into an expanded look at the scene which caused much speculation when the first trailer was released.

Gandalf and Galadriel come together, with Galadriel saying: “Mithrandir, why the halfling?”

Gandalf responds: “Saruman believes it is only great power that can hold evil in check, but that is not what I have found. I found it is the small things everyday deeds of ordinary folk that keep the darkness at bay… small acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? That’s because I am afraid and it gives me courage.”

Chills. Seriously.

Gandalf and Galadriel are holding hands but not in a way that is romantic, but more in the sense of a lifetime of friendship and shared experiences. There is longing, but there is sadness. I cannot say that it is “love” in the way most people think of it.

“Do not be afraid, Mithrandir, you are not alone,” in Elvish, with English subtitles. “If you ever need aid, I will come.” And after a long look, she draws away from him, leaving him standing alone, and… slightly lost.

Cut to Bilbo picking up the ring

We hear Gandalf say, “You’ve changed, Bilbo Baggins…” Bilbo looks anxious, he moves his hand toward his pocket… he seems ready to tell Gandalf… and he says, “My courage.” The first instance of Bilbo’s reluctance to tell the truth about the ring.

And herrrrrrrrrrrrre we go, on a wild ride of action shots.

BOOM. TROLLS. Ugly, mean, wild, vicious trolls. Have you seen the pics from Comic-Con? Absolutely nothing like seeing them in action. Not the bumbling stupid trolls one kind of expects after reading the Hobbit.

Radagast, racing through the forest on his bunnysled. Yes, a bunnysled. A sled, pulled by surprisingly strong bunnies.

Tauriel, barely shown in these clips, although Philippa speaks highly of her in the Q&A which follows. What we do see is a female, dressed in-brown version of Legolas (description courtesy of Quickbeam), in combat with goblins. Legolas springs out of… leaves? …and joins in the fighting.

Legolas races from the action and comes face-to-face with the party of dwarves, who come to a shocked standstill. “I won’t hesitate to kill you, dwarf,” says everyone’s favorite elf. Warning: We are slightly guessing on the exact quote, due to excessive audience screaming.

More trolls… and then Gandalf is seen standing on a hillside, stabbing his staff into the ground with a blast of morning sunlight.

THE END
jlb2957
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I have no problem with legolas being in the films. The fact of the matter is Legolas wasn't a character when Tolkein wrote the Hobbit, and was therefore never in it.

Since we are given the character Legolas in the lord of the rings and are told he is the son of the elven king, then it only makes since that he would be involved in most that goes on in that realm.
sharkenleo
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I absolutely agree.

Here's the whole Q&A in full: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N9fDM5TEUc

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amercer
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A series of quick shots of Radagast follow



Uh, Why?

And I guess it's ok if Legolas captures the Dwarfs. IIRC it was an unnamed caption of the Elves that took them in, so why not the son of the King. Plus Bilbo is invisible at the time so that solves that problem. Still there can't be too much more Lelolas without doing some violence to the text.

As for a wizard bunny sled. Oh, boy.
sharkenleo
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New production diary: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCVxDbqgu6o

We get some footage from Comic Con, and the behind the scenes footage that was shown. We get a pretty good look at Dale, which has a very heavy Italian influence. That set looks amazing.

Also, whatever that is at 1:19, looks freaking awesome.

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amercer
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Looks pretty awesome.
jlb2957
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Do want!
Quad Dog
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Jackson is thinking about a third Hobbit film. http://www.avclub.com/articles/peter-jackson-considering-tempting-fate-with-yet-a,82940/
jlb2957
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Also, whatever that is at 1:19, looks freaking awesome.

Those are the giants throwing the boulders that force the dwarves to sleep in the cave.
amercer
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As of now it's unclear what J.R.R. Tolkien material, exactly, Jackson would be working from, especially considering he's already padded out The Hobbit into two very long films, but the speculation is that a third movie might be drawn from the various Lord Of The Rings appendices, which fill in a lot of history and background information to the main, much more interesting story. Failing that, perhaps it could consist of Orlando Bloom walking slowly through a lush green meadow as he reads the entire Elvish To English dictionary.


ruh roh.
07ag
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http://www.facebook.com/notes/peter-jackson/an-unexpected-journey/10151114596546558

officially 3 films now

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sharkenleo
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Yes!!!

More Middle Earth is always good.
hereto
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Holy carp!
jlb2957
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Dammit...now I have another year to wait for a freakin' movie.
sharkenleo
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I just hope this doesn't mean I have to wait till 2015 to see the Battle of Five Armies.
Al Bula
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WTF? Obvious money grab is obvious. The only way I can be happy about this is if they can put some historical Middle Earth action in, like Downfall of Numenore.
sharkenleo
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PJ seems to have been the one that wanted a third film. I doubt the decision was made about money, at least initially.

PJ has my complete trust.
amercer
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Peter Jackson must be stopped. This has gone too far.

We're 5 years out from a Hobbit vs Harry Potter: Requiem.
IrishAg
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The biggest thing I can think of to help expand it to 3 films is if Jackson tries to show the battle of the Wizards vs the Necromancer...and/or he delves into the roles of the White, Gray, Brown, and Blue Wizards?
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So we have to watch Orlando Bloom ruin even more lines with his wooden delivery? A definite bright spot I was looking forward to was that he wouldn't be able to taint the Hobbit with his bad acting. Oh well.
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What pisses me off is that we probably won't see Smaug until the third film now.
 
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